VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Zolrazz]

Something occurred to me when thinking about where the MC's powers will progress as he evolves. In later stages, a Superhuman's powers start veering more towards the conceptual along with the simpler "same thing but stronger" powers that simply grow with the Power stat.

I wonder if the MC's trait of Evolution along with the Body's immense regeneration might lend itself to becoming something like Doomsday from the Superman comics, where an attack might just about obliterate him, his Body trait regenerates him, and the conceptual mingling with Memory of the attack fuses into an Evolution where he becomes highly resistant, if not immune, to the type of attack that almost killed him. Right there in the moment, not over time.

That seems exactly like the kind of thing that would help MC stay in the game against some of these obscenely powerful abilities, staying in line with the fact that he doesn't specialize in firepower but rather durability and adaptability.

The problem here is that Mc's powers are very basic. Of course, if it were like that as you said, it would be a great advantage, the problem is that there is always a limit, even Doomsday ends up dying in some editions, dying for real, the problem is that he always comes back to life, if Mc could link himself to a non-material level, then, yes, he would become an S-level threat, the problem with this is that we have beings capable of altering reality, distorting space and attacking beyond the material realm

Depending on the yield of the warhead, I wouldn't doubt that he could tank the blast. I'm fairly certain that nukes were ruled out as a means of taking on the toughest classes of monsters in general, due to the explosive force not being enough to kill or possibly even injure them.

I'd be more curious about the radiation exposure though.
His armoured form would more than likely block alpha, beta and gamma radiation, but the real question is whether or not it'd block neutron radiation, and how well his cells and superhuman dna can handle the damaging effects.

Maybe radiation isn't a problem, the real danger would be the heat generated by the bomb, if we were to take the most powerful one which is the TSAR bomb, then I doubt he'd make it

 

[RudeFist]

The problem here is that Mc's powers are very basic. Of course, if it were like that as you said, it would be a great advantage, the problem is that there is always a limit, even Doomsday ends up dying in some editions, dying for real, the problem is that he always comes back to life, if Mc could link himself to a non-material level, then, yes, he would become an S-level threat, the problem with this is that we have beings capable of altering reality, distorting space and attacking beyond the material realm

They're basic for now but the more complex stuff is what comes with evolution, especially later ones. It's kinda like how Ella dunked all over that one Lieutenant who had the raw power rating of some lvl 5s due to the decades spent as a lvl 3, pointing out to him that despite his brute strength he was holding himself back from the wilder manifestations of power of later evolutions. And yeah, he definitely won't be invincible by any stretch given how many reality warping juggernauts exist, especially because he wouldn't be able to regenerate from the total obliteration several of them are capable of inflicting. It's more just an idea of how the MC can feasibly progress besides more tentacles and bigger appendages.

 

[obibobi]

I don't think you quite understand the effects of radiation damage on the cells and dna of living organisms... Hell, even the damage it does to inorganic materials.

You do realize we are discussing a superhero setting where the characters have powers that are basically magical and the MC's has had the ability to reset his entire body from level 1 or transforming flesh that's been turned to stone, or making his body appear from thin air, radiation poisoning is very tame compared to basically not existing. Michaels power has also dealt in radiation and like everything that's super charged and its not like his opponents drop like flies, Met recovered easily enough.

He's also approaching the point where man made weapons can't stop him, although that may be as early as level 3, as I believe it was level 3 or monster equivalent could only be stopped by weapons that only exist in the setting.

 

[Snugglepuff]

You do realize we are discussing a superhero setting where the characters have powers that are basically magical

Oh, I'm well aware.
It hasn't stopped you or others from theorising with logic and reasoning within the confines of the world and its lore.
Why so insistent on shitting on mine with such little effort as "basically magical" as a reason?

and the MC's has had the ability to reset his entire body from level 1 or transforming flesh that's been turned to stone

So?

radiation poisoning is very tame compared to basically not existing.

Don't confuse "appearing from thin air" with "not existing", and don't underestimate radiation poisoning or how it affects inorganic matter.
Given how it affects metal alone, and our MC can create metal blades/spikes from his body, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could at least be severely weakened at first (depending on the level of exposure), and likely lead to further damage that he may or may not be able to deal with.

Michaels power has also dealt in radiation and like everything that's super charged and its not like his opponents drop like flies, Met recovered easily enough.

I don't recall if it was stated what kind of radiation is related to Michael's power, or if it's even a form of damaging radiation.

He's also approaching the point where man made weapons can't stop him, although that may be as early as level 3, as I believe it was level 3 or monster equivalent could only be stopped by weapons that only exist in the setting.

Eh, I'd say he's probably at the point where typical/normal man-made weapons can't do shit to him, but the monster augmented and advanced weapons might still be a problem for him. Even the special weapons made for Superhumans are man-made, it's just the materials and processes that are different.

 

[UncleFappy]

I'm honestly surprised at how good this game is. I had intentionally ignored it because of how crap the art looked, but man... this edgy superhero kinda-sorta-not-really-but-kinda Persona formula is actually working really well. MC with the Alex Mercer type powers is cool, too.

Still way early in, but man, I'm looking forward to seeing how the shenanigans spiral out.

 

[Netao_Da_Caxixola]

I'm honestly surprised at how good this game is. I had intentionally ignored it because of how crap the art looked, but man... this edgy superhero kinda-sorta-not-really-but-kinda Persona formula is actually working really well. MC with the Alex Mercer type powers is cool, too.

Still way early in, but man, I'm looking forward to seeing how the shenanigans spiral out.

Welcome my friend

 

[DrakoGhoul]

MC 100% can't tank a nuke, if he's at the center of the blast. Not because of radiation. That won't even get the chance to do anything. It's the heat and force that would vaporize him. Even if he wore his heavy armor. Because the first couple of seconds of the explosion has some of the highest temperatures. Being around the millions of degrees mark. Temperatures that can dwarf that of the sun, depending on the nuke.

This also isn't limited to him as well. A nuke would kill almost every Level 3 Superhuman and B Class Monster, if they're at the center of the explosion. Hell, you can argue it could kill certain Level 4s and A Class Monsters. Depending on the potency and disregard for life on the planet. Since Nico uses the Sun and Earth's core to kill A Class monsters. Just like the Asura, if you don't fight it, and M43 - Silat. Of course, this assumes you don't care about life and got the appropriate number of nuclear weapons to spam.

So if you mean MC can tank a nuke by being in the area of the explosion, but far away from the center. Then it's possible, I guess. However, if you mean tank as in he can stand at the center and withstand the explosion of a nuke head on. I would say there's no chance at all.

 

[Dark T-Rex]

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Bad news guys, Oblivion Remaster came out, so next update is delayed to 2032. See you guys in a few years.

Here's some character redesigns I was gonna implement into the game in 1.0 before it got cancelled for gameplay time.

Anyway, see ya.

Are the titty mods out yet btw? Does anyone know? I heard they're already setting up VR for that shit.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Bad news guys, Oblivion Remaster came out, so next update is delayed to 2032. See you guys in a few years.

 

[King_In_Yellow]

Bad news guys, Oblivion Remaster came out, so next update is delayed to 2032. See you guys in a few years.

Totally Understandable But Don't You Dare

In Relation To redesigns

 

[harem.king]

MC 100% can't tank a nuke, if he's at the center of the blast. Not because of radiation. That won't even get the chance to do anything. It's the heat and force that would vaporize him. Even if he wore his heavy armor. Because the first couple of seconds of the explosion has some of the highest temperatures. Being around the millions of degrees mark. Temperatures that can dwarf that of the sun, depending on the nuke.

This also isn't limited to him as well. A nuke would kill almost every Level 3 Superhuman and B Class Monster, if they're at the center of the explosion. Hell, you can argue it could kill certain Level 4s and A Class Monsters. Depending on the potency and disregard for life on the planet. Since Nico uses the Sun and Earth's core to kill A Class monsters. Just like the Asura, if you don't fight it, and M43 - Silat. Of course, this assumes you don't care about life and got the appropriate number of nuclear weapons to spam.

So if you mean MC can tank a nuke by being in the area of the explosion, but far away from the center. Then it's possible, I guess. However, if you mean tank as in he can stand at the center and withstand the explosion of a nuke head on. I would say there's no chance at all.

Also fire is one of the MC's weaknesses. not as bad as lightning, but still bad.
I mean, it doesn't even matter because the nuke would vaporize the MC
But I thought it is a funny thing to mention.

 

[davie2404]

Nice redesigns WW , looking forward to Killing new Jake all over again !!.

 

[John3829]

Not a villain, brother, but a fallen hero. It was the war between the F95 and Discord servers that caused him to fall.

We were winning; it was so easy. We had more memes, more disturbing images, and more everything, but he wanted a victory, so better that Discord server never mess with us again.

And he did; they never tried to mess with F95 again. We were too powerful, too crazy, and too much of a lot of things.

But! It was the waifu wars. My memory is that of a squirrel, but it was perhaps the waifu war 3 or 4.

On that day the mods attacked; they deleted page after page of the history and culture of glorious memes, and the off-topic was created.

Only the OGs are there – those who have been with the game since the beginning, those who have seen and theory-crafted way before the time of now.

For more threads with interesting history facts, ask necromater he's the resident history recorder.

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The discord war? The 4th waifu wars? Tell me more of them great ancient. And how do you call someone on a post? I want to summon necromater.

 

[jjtom000]

I wonder, can the MC tank a nuke? At which point if any did he become so powerful that the government or HERO tech (without SuperHumans) wouldn't be able to kill him

It depends on what you mean by tanking, because MC can shapeshift and he can just turn into a nuclear bunker or a giant metal ball to survive the nuke.

But I assume what you are really asking is his standard form not transformation, then I would say that if he was caught in the ground zero then he would likey not survive even in his heavy armor form, because even if he somehow didn't get completely vaporized by the fireball, the radiation will greatly nerf his regen(as noted in his sparring session against Michael), and he will be melted by the remaining heat. However, if he was outside the ground zero then the shockwave would do little to his armor form.

I believe it's mentioned in HERO lessons that a A-class monster is completely above any modern weaponry including HERO's tech, and a A-class monster is equal to a lvl 4 superhuman, so human military and HERO's tech will likely not be able to kill lvl 4 MC unless he lets them.

 

[OnlineRando]

Also fire is one of the MC's weaknesses. not as bad as lightning, but still bad.
I mean, it doesn't even matter because the nuke would vaporize the MC
But I thought it is a funny thing to mention.

Fire's a weakness because it counteracts his regen, which would be the least of his problems with a nuke IMO. The explosion itself will either mince and vaporise him, or it won't (which mostly depends on where he is within the initial explosion). In the first case, regen doesn't matter, and in the second, as long as he survives, it's just a matter of time until he manages to put the fire out and regenerate.

Not to mention, if he survives, he'd presumably do so via a fire-resistant transformation in the first place, like his armor, but made for specifically defense rather than combat. Other than the initial explosion and shockwave, the radiation is especially useless against him, as regen should clear that out before it matters.

 

[jjtom000]

Because the first couple of seconds of the explosion has some of the highest temperatures. Being around the millions of degrees mark. Temperatures that can dwarf that of the sun, depending on the nuke.

This is false, the "millions of degrees temperature" doesn't last for seconds in the fireball. In fact, the temperature quickly drop below 1 million°C under 1 microsecond.

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Hell, you can argue it could kill certain Level 4s and A Class Monsters. Depending on the potency and disregard for life on the planet. Since Nico uses the Sun and Earth's core to kill A Class monsters. Just like the Asura, if you don't fight it, and M43 - Silat. Of course, this assumes you don't care about life and got the appropriate number of nuclear weapons to spam.

You cannot argue that because being hit by a nuclear bomb and being sent to the Sun's core are not remotely comparable due to the difference in the duration of the extreme heat and the difference in pressure in both attacks.

 

[OnlineRando]

You cannot argue that because being hit by a nuclear bomb and being sent to the Sun's core are not remotely comparable due to the difference in the duration of the extreme heat and the difference in pressure in both attacks.

Yeah, the sun's core is consistently 15~ million degrees Celsius, even the strongest nukes would surpass it for barely fractions of a second. The area in which this heat occurs is also much smaller.

 

[obibobi]

Don't confuse "appearing from thin air" with "not existing", and don't underestimate radiation poisoning or how it affects inorganic matter.
Given how it affects metal alone, and our MC can create metal blades/spikes from his body, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could at least be severely weakened at first (depending on the level of exposure), and likely lead to further damage that he may or may not be able to deal with.



I don't recall if it was stated what kind of radiation is related to Michael's power, or if it's even a form of damaging radiation.



Eh, I'd say he's probably at the point where typical/normal man-made weapons can't do shit to him, but the monster augmented and advanced weapons might still be a problem for him. Even the special weapons made for Superhumans are man-made, it's just the materials and processes that are different.

You seem so dead set just ignoring the power system, he pulls mass out of thin air using what is basically a magic system that is setting specific, this ethereal monster energy all the monsters and superhumans have, his power is shapechanging, why can you not get that he can simply shapechange the damage away, he's shapechanged back from being burned to ash and for whatever reason your wanking radiation damage.

Michaels power is absorbing and redirecting energy, radiation is the power he seems to use the most.

So yes, atomic bombs, man made weapons not enhanced by the settings power system, the thing you're arguing for.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

This is false, the "millions of degrees temperature" doesn't last for seconds in the fireball. In fact, the temperature quickly drop below 1 million°C under 1 microsecond.

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Good to know, I suppose?

You cannot argue that because being hit by a nuclear bomb and being sent to the Sun's core are not remotely comparable due to the difference in the duration of the extreme heat and the difference in pressure in both attacks.

Sure, if you ignore the fact that I said appropriate amount of nuclear weapons. As in more than one. And not "a" nuclear bomb. You quoted the part and somehow still wanted to argue, I guess?

And Nico doesn't send monsters to the core of the sun. She sends them to the middle layers, generally. Which is significantly less hot and likely with even less pressure. The sustained heat and pressure would be a good counter if Nico didn't use her sun fire attack to vaporize Level 5 Ella's monster body. And unless it was less durable than A Class monsters. You can indeed argue that enough Nuclear weapons can kill A Class monsters. Assuming, you can get it up to the same level. The keyword that you're likely going to ignore again is "assuming".

Also, let me highlight what I said. Since, maybe I'm the crazy one here.

This also isn't limited to him as well. A nuke would kill almost every Level 3 Superhuman and B Class Monster, if they're at the center of the explosion. Hell, you can argue it could kill certain Level 4s and A Class Monsters. Depending on the potency and disregard for life on the planet. Since Nico uses the Sun and Earth's core to kill A Class monsters. Just like the Asura, if you don't fight it, and M43 - Silat. Of course, this assumes you don't care about life and got the appropriate number of nuclear weapons to spam.

Maybe I should highlight the certain Level 4s and A Class monsters part too? Nah, it's fine.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

I wonder, can the MC tank a nuke? At which point if any did he become so powerful that the government or HERO tech (without SuperHumans) wouldn't be able to kill him

dude he can't even tank a fucking bit of gasoline on him much less something that is hotter then the surface of the sun depending on the nuke