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OnlineRando

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What are you defining as "normal" radiation?
Normal radiation being non-monster-powered radiation.
Am I remembering wrong? I'm pretty sure he did that against Tiffany (during serum evo), against Met, and probably a few other times? I don't completely remember, but I'm pretty sure he's sapped the effectiveness of others' powers before without killing them. And in general, inhibiting power sounds like a passive effect Power would have, like Authority altering others' thoughts to prevent them from thinking Jake's transformation was weird, Body's regen, and Alice's barrier.
 

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Normal radiation being non-monster-powered radiation.
This is starting to sound just like "magical monster radiation"...

Am I remembering wrong? I'm pretty sure he did that against Tiffany (during serum evo), against Met, and probably a few other times? I don't completely remember, but I'm pretty sure he's sapped the effectiveness of others' powers before without killing them. And in general, inhibiting power sounds like a passive effect Power would have, like Authority altering others' thoughts to prevent them from thinking Jake's transformation was weird, Body's regen, and Alice's barrier.
"Radiation that comes from Power"... What is this thing you call "Power"?
What is the radiation "Power" emits?
 

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This is starting to sound just like "magical monster radiation"...
Wym? It is magical monster radiation. It's made with monster power, and things with monster power innately resist other things with monster power. So, magical monster radiation would resist shapeshifting in the same way that superhumans can resist and could even eventually revert MC's and Ella's shapeshifting because of its monster power.
"Radiation that comes from Power"... What is this thing you call "Power"?
What is the radiation "Power" emits?
Michael's ability comes from Power, the second apostle, which holds power over... powers. Michael himself displayed this multiple times, and in the previous update (not the most recent one, the one before that(I think)) Michael did the rituals to control and manipulate a few different kinds of energies, which would imply Power controls "power" as in energy, and that would naturally include monster power. Radiation's simply either the "default" state of Power (As in the trait), or just Michael's default, for whatever reason. Or maybe its just that most enemies he saps power from give it to him in the form of radiation, I wouldn't know.
 
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Normal radiation being non-monster-powered radiation.

Am I remembering wrong? I'm pretty sure he did that against Tiffany (during serum evo), against Met, and probably a few other times? I don't completely remember, but I'm pretty sure he's sapped the effectiveness of others' powers before without killing them. And in general, inhibiting power sounds like a passive effect Power would have, like Authority altering others' thoughts to prevent them from thinking Jake's transformation was weird, Body's regen, and Alice's barrier.
Power suppression/negation was an attribute of Dark, last I checked. Also, I believe Michael inhibiting Tiffany's light was more due to the fact that he exuded such high amounts of energy instead of his power having any power suppression functions.
 
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Power suppression/negation was an attribute of Dark, last I checked. Also, I believe Michael inhibiting Tiffany's light was more due to the fact that he exuded such high amounts of energy instead of his power having any power suppression functions.
I didn't really mean negation or suppression, as much as power draining and/or controlling the flow of energy in general.. I worded that incorrectly, sorry.

And wasn't she initially winning, until he sapped the energy of her attacks for himself?
 

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Just replaying and man, I can't imagine any battle ever topping the Cole fight. Being able to literally weaponize NTR against him is just the absolute peak of this entire website


at this point, im only having sex to load up ammo for boss fights
 
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Wym? It is magical monster radiation.
In other words, a radiation that does whatever the hell the plot needs it to at the time?
That's what I mean by "magical monster radiation".

Michael's ability comes from Power, the second apostle, which holds power over... powers. Michael himself displayed this multiple times, and in the previous update (not the most recent one, the one before that(I think)) Michael did the rituals to control and manipulate a few different kinds of energies, which would imply Power controls "power" as in energy, and that would naturally include monster power. Radiation's simply either the "default" state of Power (As in the trait), or just Michael's default, for whatever reason. Or maybe its just that most enemies he saps power from give it to him in the form of radiation, I wouldn't know.
Please, tell me you haven't been confusing a means of energy transmission with radioactive particles this entire time, because I swear that had already been settled before you came in saying it wasn't that...
 

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Please, tell me you haven't been confusing a means of energy transmission with radioactive particles this entire time, because I swear that had already been settled before you came in saying it wasn't that...
What??? The only things I said were that A) the Power trait has been repeatedly shown to mess with monster power (as well as other types of energy), and that B) monster power in general messes with monster power.

If the Power trait messes with monster power, it affecting the activation of shapeshifting/regen isn't a stretch at all, and regardless of that, the presence of foreign monster power in MC's body delivered via Michael's radiation causing radiation poisoning would hinder MC's transformation in the same way Cole's heat did, because monster power hinders abilities.
 

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What??? The only things I said were that A) the Power trait has been repeatedly shown to mess with monster power (as well as other types of energy), and that B) monster power in general messes with monster power.

If the Power trait messes with monster power, it affecting the activation of shapeshifting/regen isn't a stretch at all, and regardless of that, the presence of foreign monster power in MC's body delivered via Michael's radiation causing radiation poisoning would hinder MC's transformation in the same way Cole's heat did, because monster power hinders abilities.

So it's not some "monster radiation" or even "magical monster radiation", it's ionising radiation just like Alpha/Beta/Gamma/Neutron radiation... In other words, at long last, you've been saying that yes, nuclear radiation would at the very least harm and possibly kill the MC.

So "thank you" for providing the most pointlessly convoluted answer to what was asked in the first place, and for actually agreeing with my supposition in the first place.

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Meant assertion, not supposition. :FacePalm:
 
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So it's not some "monster radiation" or even "magical monster radiation", it's ionising radiation just like Alpha/Beta/Gamma/Neutron radiation... In other words, at long last, you've been saying that yes, nuclear radiation would at the very least harm and possibly kill the MC.

So "thank you" for providing the most pointlessly convoluted answer to what was asked in the first place, and for actually agreeing with my supposition in the first place.
...What I said is that the radiation doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Michael slowing down MC's regen beyond being what gets Michael's monster power to MC's body, and possibly interfering with MC's monster power by virtue of Michael having Power as his monster trait, but you're free to interpret what I said however you'd like.
 

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...What I said is that the radiation doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Michael slowing down MC's regen beyond being what gets Michael's monster power to MC's body, and possibly interfering with MC's monster power by virtue of Michael having Power as his monster trait, but you're free to interpret what I said however you'd like.
It's not about a different interpretation, it's your own words and what they actually mean.

You said;
If the Power trait messes with monster power, it affecting the activation of shapeshifting/regen isn't a stretch at all, and regardless of that, the presence of foreign monster power in MC's body delivered via Michael's radiation causing radiation poisoning would hinder MC's transformation in the same way Cole's heat did, because monster power hinders abilities.
That's you saying Michael can emit ionising radiation.
You're not using those words because you didn't know that's what it was, and just keep throwing "monster radiation" around, but that's what your magical "monster radiation" actually is - Ionising Radiation, the same thing that killed him as part of his ascension from human to superhuman.

Therefore, you did answer my question and you do support my assertion, you just don't realise it! :LOL:
 

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It's not about a different interpretation, it's your own words and what they actually mean.

You said;


That's you saying Michael can emit ionising radiation.
You're not using those words because you didn't know that's what it was, and just keep throwing "monster radiation" around, but that's what your magical "monster radiation" actually is - Ionising Radiation, the same thing that killed him as part of his ascension from human to superhuman.

Therefore, you did answer my question and you do support my assertion, you just don't realise it! :LOL:
I don't see how me saying monster power (especially Michael's) inside MC = interference with his regen is equivalent to me saying Michael can affect electrons with his radiation, nor do I see how that would even be relevant.
 

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I don't see how me saying monster power (especially Michael's) inside MC = interference with his regen is equivalent to me saying Michael can affect electrons with his radiation, nor do I see how that would even be relevant.
:FacePalm:
You need to brush up on your understanding of the effects of ionising radiation...
 

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You need to brush up on your understanding of the effects of ionising radiation...
If I remember my chemistry correctly, ionizing radiation is when radiation has enough energy to knock electrons out of atoms, but that doesn't answer how this relates to anything I said.
 

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If I remember my chemistry correctly, ionizing radiation is when radiation has enough energy to knock electrons out of atoms, but that doesn't answer how this relates to anything I said.
Please tell me you're acting dense as some sort of piss-take...
 

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Please tell me you're acting dense as some sort of piss-take...
Are you gonna continue acting like you're some hidden genius and I'm an ignoramus, or are you gonna say how that explanation is wrong and why that's even relevant? I don't mind being wrong, let alone in chemistry of all things, but the things you've been saying for a while now amount to little more than absolutely nothing. If you think I'm wrong and wanna prove it, then explain.

Though, beyond the technical stuff I don't care for, I think this explanation is sufficient to get the idea.
 
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