VN Ren'Py Superhuman [v0.99999b] [WeirdWorld]

[Dinoflaggelate]

As I understand it, Michael's attacks inhibit regeneration on two fronts. One natural, one supernatural. Firstly, his attacks are ionizing radiation. That causes heat that physically burns cells, as well as lyzing cell membranes, damaging DNA, and causing the formation of toxic ionic compounds. All of those are things that would prevent healing. Secondly, at least his radiation blade has been described as also channeling corrupted life energy into what he cuts with it. That impedes supernatural abilities that would heal the target. His other attacks might do that as well, we haven't been given any narration indicating it, but it's possible. Still, with multiple ways for Michael to block healing, he's a real danger to anything that isn't a huge cheater like that Drek monster.

 

[A fleeting presence]

Replaying the game gave me a lot of meme material until next update:

 

[Snugglepuff]

Are you gonna continue acting like you're some ultimate genius and I'm an ignoramus, or are you gonna say how that explanation is wrong and why that's even relevant?... Though, beyond the technical stuff I don't care for, I think this explanation is sufficient to get the idea.

You want an explanation or you don't want an explanation, which is it?

 

[Dipasimaan]

TFW you got call out of your bullshit and can't think of a single counter argument so you just cope by calling the other side "yapping" and pretending you've defeated them in the argument.
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[pokerfaceq]

How does Demi's gender affect the sex scenes?

 

[KKStrider]

TFW you got call out of your bullshit and can't think of a single counter argument so you just cope by calling the other side "yapping" and pretending you've defeated them in the argument.
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You're getting that reaction because the idea that a nuclear detonation is incomparable to core of the sun doesn't make much sense. The pressure I'll give you, sure. The nuke's about 1 million psi at its peak, whilst the sun's core is billions. But implying that a nuke's peak heat being 100 million °C doesn't mean really mean anything without it being sustained is too wild to take seriously for me. Just because it's short-lived, doesn't mean it's not blatantly more lethal. The heat from a nuclear detonation is short-lived specifically because, like all thermal energy, it pours itself into anything lacking the same level of energy as it. Being at the epicentre of a nuclear explosion just means all that thermal energy is rapidly going to turn the target from room temperature to also burning hotter than the sun and partially turned to plasma real fast. And for some monsters, it might not particularly matter to their molecules if their bodies are going to disperse a good chunk of that heat 1/10th of a microsecond later, because their molecules would have already found themselves lacking chemical bonds, a couple of sub-atomic particles for good measure, and blowing in the breeze of a false dawn by that point anyway.

This fact also means that without something increasing the thermal energy available to the system, the target isn't going to get any hotter than its environment. If the environment of the sun's core caps out at 15 million °C, then the target's only getting heated to 15 million °C no matter how long it stays in there. The target at nuclear ground zero, on the other hand, could cap out at around 100 million °C, however brief that may be. Maximal thermal damage for less kinetic damage, vs less thermal damage for beyond maximal kinetic damage.

Therefore, if something isn't getting killed by the nuke, the heat from the sun isn't doing them in either. The sun's crushing force near definitely could though, and in fact is probably the main reason why it's actually lethal at all to A ranks. They may have an extreme external resistance to heat, but only external. This dissonance between external thermal resistance and internal thermal vulnerability is displayed by the M125 Asura, which is A rank. It's empowered by primordial flames, and yet has thermally weak insides. Mere magma, which can get to around 1600°C, was enough to melt the flesh behind its exposed orifices, artificially created or not. As a consequence, it actually is reasonable to theorise that certain A ranks would be capable of dying to sufficient nukes, and that the sun's ability to vaporise Level 5 bodies and dispose of A rank monsters might be evidence to support that. Then of course there's the Level 4s, which are supposed to be on par with A ranks. Me personally, after seeing her fighting for her life with A rank monsters, I don't think Doll Ella's tanking the nuclear and nuclear+ hits that big Ella is.

Also, since we're being pedantic here, figure 1 of the paper you cited says at 34 microseconds post-detonation in a range of 10m, the temperature's 9x10^5°K, or 0.89 million °C. If it's that hot at 34 microseconds, it's probably way over 1 million °C closer to 0.1 microseconds.

 

[KKStrider]

How does Demi's gender affect the sex scenes?

Whatever you think they are, is what they'll appear as in sex scenes. It also affects the sex of a monster that's the same species as the one that turned them too, later down the line. Except for one, in which Demi's sex is always female for some reason. Not sure if that's gameplay and story segregation or integration though, considering the nature of Demi's powers.

 

[hsuaisbsjsh]

Somebody asked for the most epic scene to date ?

No ?

Well here you have it either way
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is that a dead end or something? cause I didn't see that in Cole's fight so i might've missed it because I messed with the stats

 

[Dipasimaan]

is that a dead end or something? cause I didn't see that in Cole's fight so i might've missed it because I messed with the stats

It's later down the line, story moment so you can't miss it.

 

[Grimnir098]

Michael's ability comes from Power, the second apostle, which holds power over... powers.

Maybe we should start using the actual names of the Apostle traits.
Gtdead figured out the Apostles give the name of their trait in their dream. "I am God's space." Ether calls Alice heir to Space, so it seems like his trait is called Space.

Power's trait is Might.

 

[KKStrider]

Maybe we should start using the actual names of the Apostle traits.
Gtdead figured out the Apostles give the name of their trait in their dream. "I am God's space." Ether calls Alice heir to Space, so it seems like his trait is called Space.

Power's trait is Might.

The Authority is God's will.
The Power is God's strength.
The Body is God's form.
The Memory is God's insight.
The Time is God's age.
The Ether is God's space.
The Darkness is God's void.
The Light is God's lustre.
The Truth is God's reality.
The Fantasy is God's lie.
The Destruction is God's ruin.
The Creation is God's genesis.

 

[Ebrietas]

The Authority is God's will.
The Power is God's strength.
The Body is God's form.
The Memory is God's insight.
The Time is God's age.
The Ether is God's space.
The Darkness is God's void.
The Light is God's lustre.
The Truth is God's reality.
The Fantasy is God's lie.
The Destruction is God's ruin.
The Creation is God's genesis.

And together they form:
Order
Evolution
Infinity
Soul
Paradox
Chaos

 

[OnlineRando]

Maybe we should start using the actual names of the Apostle traits.
Gtdead figured out the Apostles give the name of their trait in their dream. "I am God's space." Ether calls Alice heir to Space, so it seems like his trait is called Space.

Power's trait is Might.

I think the "God's X" names are more like descriptors rather than their actual names, considering that the names we use currently are what everyone uses to refer to them in-game, and because the "God's x" names aren't particularly good at conveying the power's true effects (Ether isn't just about space for example), but that doesn't really matter. Both sets of names are clear enough.

 

[OnlineRando]

You want an explanation or you don't want an explanation, which is it?

Yes? How do you get me not wanting an explanation from me telling you to explain?

That is, explain how what I said relates to ionizing radiation. How does me saying monster power, especially Michael's, hinders MC's regen while inside his body, relates at all to ionizing radiation. Also, if you will, explain how that would be relevant, and how you got that from my words in the first place.

 

[Grimnir098]

I think the "God's X" names are more like descriptors rather than their actual names, considering that the names we use currently are what everyone uses to refer to them in-game, and because the "God's x" names aren't particularly good at conveying the power's true effects (Ether isn't just about space for example), but that doesn't really matter. Both sets of names are clear enough.

I'm talking about the name of the Apostle's trait, not the name of the Apostle.
Authority is the name of the First, Will is the name of Authority's trait.
Jake is the spawn of Authority, and therefore uses Will.

 

[OnlineRando]

I'm talking about the name of the Apostle's trait, not the name of the Apostle.
Authority is the name of the First, Will is the name of Authority's trait.
Jake is the spawn of Authority, and therefore uses Will.

I'm saying that, firstly, they describe the powers of these traits poorly compared to the name of the apostle, and secondly, that I'm not sure where the notion that these are the traits' names came from in the first place.

I don't think Alice's ability, which has so far only tangentially touched on space and mostly has to do with gravity and dark energy, should be called the space trait. Space is clearly an application of it, but Ether as a concept fits the trait much better. The X in the "God's X" titles are seemingly there more for big wording than for accuracy.

 

[Snugglepuff]

Yes? How do you get me not wanting an explanation from me telling you to explain?

Because the end of the post I was replying to is contradicting your apparent need for an explanation. Either that, or you're responding to something else without any indication of what and who that line is for.

That is, explain how what I said relates to ionizing radiation. How does me saying monster power, especially Michael's, hinders MC's regen while inside his body, relates at all to ionizing radiation. Also, if you will, explain how that would be relevant, and how you got that from my words in the first place.

I'll make this as simple as possible, without having to explain the effects of ionising radiation to you...

As a superhuman, Michael is basically a walking nuclear reactor.

Firstly, forget your obsession with saying "monster power" as an alternative to energy and powers, especially when it comes to Michael's powers and his Apostle. The Power trait isn't about powers, it's about energy - "power" in terms of energy and energy fields.

Michael's power is basically the manipulation of energy fields/electromagnetic fields relating to the high end of the EM Spectrum, particularly around nuclear energy aka ionising radiation (we'll get to that), and is why he can mask his own energies better than other superhumans and why his physical durability generally is better than others of equal level.

He can absord energy-based attacks at level 1 and emit a literal "shotgun-like" radiation burst called (wait for it) Ionised Red... He literally fires a blast of nuclear energy with high intensity ionising radiation that results in whomever gets hit with it, being ripped apart at the cellular level.

Level 2, he gets an objectively better version of Ionised Red in the form of Radiation Beam - Higher output and in focused beam rather than a "conical blast".
Radiation knife is basically just him stabbing/slashing an opponent with concentrated ionising radiation. Funnily enough, Michael can potentially generate a "Radsaber" (radiation lightsaber) instead, but that one might be a little too on the nose.

His radiation attacks damage superhumans, slowing their abilities to heal (cellular/genetic damage), and even give them literal radiation poisoning (cellular/genetic damage)... That's all to do with ionising radiation.

So, for the third time now, you have agreed with me that the MC can be damaged and possibly killed by high exposure to radiation/radioactive particles.

I'm saying that, firstly, they describe the powers of these traits poorly compared to the name of the apostle, and secondly, that I'm not sure where the notion that these are the traits' names came from in the first place.

I don't think Alice's ability, which has so far only tangentially touched on space and mostly has to do with gravity and dark energy, should be called the space trait. Space is clearly an application of it, but Ether as a concept fits the trait much better.

To interject on this, as it relates to what I've written above, it's "space" as in space and spacetime, which is where gravity and (theoretical) dark energy come into play, and their effects on spacetime.

If you haven't played the Mass Effect games (Biotics, element zero, dark energy fields), go read up on the subjects of gravity and dark energy and spacetime. Otherwise this'll turn into an astrophysics lesson.

 

[Tahxeol]

I know pretty much everyone here hate Jack, but what would his next evolutions have added to his powerset (I don't believe his mental would allow him to evolve again)?

Outside of raw power, I don't see any more application of raw authority than brainwashing, giving orders, forcing commands on somone

 

[OnlineRando]

Firstly, forget your obsession with saying "monster power" as an alternative to energy and powers, especially when it comes to Michael's powers and his Apostle. The Power trait isn't about powers, it's about energy - "power" in terms of energy and energy fields.

Did I not say multiple times that his power affects energy? Which would include monster power? Which would affect powers? I'm pretty sure I said this over five times already.

Michael's power is basically the manipulation of energy fields/electromagnetic fields relating to the high end of the EM Spectrum, particularly around nuclear energy aka ionising radiation (we'll get to that), and is why he can mask his own energies better than other superhumans and why his physical durability generally is better than others of equal level.

No indication of anything after ionizing radiation. In fact, it was explained superhumans are generally more talented at hiding their monster power the more stoic/emotionally disconnected they are (and the opposite is true for sensing), and Michael is the definition of disconnected from other people. As for his "increased durability", that would mostly come down to absorbing the edge off of energy attacks when they hit him.

He can absord energy-based attacks at level 1 and emit a literal "shotgun-like" radiation burst called (wait for it) Ionised Red... He literally fires a blast of nuclear energy with high intensity ionising radiation that results in whomever gets hit with it, being ripped apart at the cellular level.

Level 2, he gets an objectively better version of Ionised Red in the form of Radiation Beam - Higher output and in focused beam rather than a "conical blast".
Radiation knife is basically just him stabbing/slashing an opponent with concentrated ionising radiation. Funnily enough, Michael can potentially generate a "Radsaber" (radiation lightsaber) instead, but that one might be a little too on the nose.

His radiation attacks damage superhumans, slowing their abilities to heal (cellular/genetic damage), and even give them literal radiation poisoning (cellular/genetic damage)... That's all to do with ionising radiation.

Cool? So he can produce ionizing radiation. Why does that matter to the current subject?

So, for the third time now, you have agreed with me that the MC can be damaged and possibly killed by high exposure to radiation/radioactive particles.

Where? WHERE???? WHERE DO I AGREE???? The ONLY thing I said is that MONSTER POWER, as in the energy superhumans use, resists MC's and Ella's shapeshifting. Michael's MONSTER POWER, meanwhile, is also specifically monster power of the trait that can mess with energy, INCLUDING MONSTER POWER, so his effects would FURTHER interrupt MC's shapeshifting BEYOND what other superhumans, like Cole, could do with effects that persist inside MC's body.

You can't ignore the existence of monster power as a major player in this discussion. Everything any superhuman does with their power is constructed, fueled, and imbued with monster power, which has been shown and stated an innumerable amounts of times to interfere with the effects of other monster power. Yes, MC COULD be damaged and possibly killed by high exposure to radiation.... If it's made and fueled by monster power. Other radiation, we have no reference on.

To interject on this, as it relates to what I've written above, it's "space" as in space and spacetime, which is where gravity and (theoretical) dark energy come into play, and their effects on spacetime.

Yes, but you'd think a trait named space would work from space back onto gravity and dark energy, rather than backwards. The trait of Ether seems to be closer to the philosophical element of ether/aether mixed with some current understanding of space, hence the name Ether in the first place, though I'm not saying that with certainty, since there's clearly a lot we're still gonna learn about Alice's powers.



The takeaway from all of this should be that you can't try and science pseudo science while conveniently ignoring the pseudo.

 

[Grimnir098]

I'm saying that, firstly, they describe the powers of these traits poorly compared to the name of the apostle, and secondly, that I'm not sure where the notion that these are the traits' names came from in the first place.

I don't think Alice's ability, which has so far only tangentially touched on space and mostly has to do with gravity and dark energy, should be called the space trait. Space is clearly an application of it, but Ether as a concept fits the trait much better. The X in the "God's X" titles are seemingly there more for big wording than for accuracy.

I literally gave you the evidence for that notion. Ether calls Alice "heir to Space" (among other things), and refers to himself as "God's space". Also, it just makes sense that the Apostle and the Apostle's trait would have different names, since they are separate, i.e. one can have the Apostle's trait without being the Apostle.

As for Alice's ability, I'm not sure how Ether fits it better. This is the definition I found, "the clear sky; the upper regions of air beyond the clouds." That has nothing to do with gravity and dark energy.
Are you working off a different definition?