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On a separate topic, I may be a furvert but I find this monster in particular very intriguing:

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In particular I'm curious to know more about its status and capabilities, as having it transform either Shadow (to save her life and upgrade her) or Emily (to give her a cool form that would make her almost like a big sister to her beloved pup) or both would be really cool.

Regardless, she was presented as mysterious and all indications were that we will encounter her again, so I'm looking forward to getting to learn more.
I think she is the means with which Valravn will escape HERO. It always seemed odd that until know he seemed to be confident he will escape and fulfill his plan.
I mean, even after finaly regaining his heart only to lose and be captured a short while later by the Mc, he still seemed confident he would fulfill his Lord's plan, as he says the moment the eclipse happened, which to me seemed odd, since his chances of escaping HERO seemed poor, and even if he did, I was surprised he did not seem more frustrated by his situation, I mean this dude was imprisoned by Ella for months, and hunted many young women afterwards in futile attempts to restore his strengths, so to me it seemed his situation was pretty dire, but now we find he has allies. And this shadow cat girl seemed to be able to detect Valravn's traces on the Mc, so it could be the spawn of the 7th have some psychic connection to eachother.

She will likely break him out. We know the dark miasma power the spawn of the 7th have is really powerful, as Valravn evaded Nico with it, and he stil can use it to block mind reading. It's likely this cat girl has some branch of that power, likely will allow her to infiltrate HERO's cells and retrieve him.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Valravn is confident he'll escape because he made a side deal with Xanthe. It's how he's been able to regenerate power when he shouldn't be. Pretty sure he even implied it when he first meets Syla in the 7th path of the Immaterial World.

But knowing WW, he'll likely shoehorn Emily into Valravn's escape route to make up a "fated" encounter scenario.
 

KingAgamemnon

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I've seen some people predict this before, but I suspect HERO will collapse due to internal conflicts sometime in the future. Nico/Xanthe represent one aspect, Henri appears to be keeping secrets of his own, and Deus is acting under his own agenda, and Dexter probably is the figurehead that doesn't have as tight of a grip as he would like on things.
 

DrakoGhoul

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Valravn is confident he'll escape because he made a side deal with Xanthe. It's how he's been able to regenerate power when he shouldn't be. Pretty sure he even implied it when he first meets Syla in the 7th path of the Immaterial World.

But knowing WW, he'll likely shoehorn Emily into Valravn's escape route to make up a "fated" encounter scenario.
Yeah, so I did remember right.
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Chances are, Valravn escape is going to be intentional. Especially since HERO is pretty thin now and has a lot of Level 5s doing other things.
 
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I've seen some people predict this before, but I suspect HERO will collapse due to internal conflicts sometime in the future. Nico/Xanthe represent one aspect, Henri appears to be keeping secrets of his own, and Deus is acting under his own agenda, and Dexter probably is the figurehead that doesn't have as tight of a grip as he would like on things.
A collapse of an organisation like hero wouldn't happen over such trivial things. That's just not how things work.
 

Zekethor2

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On a separate topic, I may be a furvert but I find this monster in particular very intriguing:

View attachment 5090492

In particular I'm curious to know more about its status and capabilities, as having it transform either Shadow (to save her life and upgrade her) or Emily (to give her a cool form that would make her almost like a big sister to her beloved pup) or both would be really cool.

Regardless, she was presented as mysterious and all indications were that we will encounter her again, so I'm looking forward to getting to learn more.
its her eyes.... hahah btw I helped her
So guys, what are your thoughts on Henri’s power drawback? Bendrix.jpg
In my opinion, I think it’s all about control. The more power he uses, the more he loses control over it, and maybe that even affects his mind and sanity, But if he rests afterward, he should be able to recover.

That’s probably why the other two members of H.E.R.O were so worried about his control when the three of them were flying together. Back then, he told them he was fine, but now we can see why they were concerned.
 

DefaultNK

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I believe this is a reference to the time Xanthe explained the power-draining capabilities of the cells to him, not a bargain between the two of them. IIRC Valravn didn't believe that H.E.R.O would still be able to hold him once his power started to regenerate.
 

Leo D. Marstone

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This game must have the most dedicated community still talking and theorizing about the lore and characters of a porn game on this site. Maybe Out of Touch could rival the dedication but the dev is.... weird to keep it nice :HideThePain:

Everytime I come around I see paragraphes of text about discussions or opinions of characters.:)
Don't get me wrong I think this is awesome and it tells me that the dev has written a good mystery story.

So I hope you are as dedicated when it comes to my questions.

What about the "game" or sex scenes xD

As for scenes:
I played a very early version of the game back then and it felt pretty lackluster on the porn aspect as a porn game...if you know what I mean :unsure:
IIRC I played up to the point in which you go into a casino undercover with one of your school friends but turns go wrong and she fucking dies.....supposedly. Dunno what happens afterwards but up to this point the porn was more in the background really. You had a scene here and there but thats it. Difficult to explain sry.

My question is I guess, does the frequency of h scenes rev up the further you are in or should I make peace with that the game is a story game first and porn game second?

As for the game:
I remember that there are a shit ton of points and variables in play that makes it impossible to keep a track of in one playthrough.
For example getting stronger in your monster form by training in your room, shapeshifting tendencys into a girl, friendship points with literally everyone and to NTR or not to NTR one of your childhood friends.

The training part is actually mandatory if you don't want an early game over if I remember but the other stuff might imply that there a many different outcomes on how the game will play out.

Do the points or characters you invest time in actually matter and changes the game drastically or is it like just pick your favorite but the game plays out the same anyway.
Also is the NTR part still in the game and doubles down on that or did it lost focus down the line?
 

Zolrazz

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This game must have the most dedicated community still talking and theorizing about the lore and characters of a porn game on this site. Maybe Out of Touch could rival the dedication but the dev is.... weird to keep it nice :HideThePain:

Everytime I come around I see paragraphes of text about discussions or opinions of characters.:)
Don't get me wrong I think this is awesome and it tells me that the dev has written a good mystery story.

So I hope you are as dedicated when it comes to my questions.

What about the "game" or sex scenes xD

As for scenes:
I played a very early version of the game back then and it felt pretty lackluster on the porn aspect as a porn game...if you know what I mean :unsure:
IIRC I played up to the point in which you go into a casino undercover with one of your school friends but turns go wrong and she fucking dies.....supposedly. Dunno what happens afterwards but up to this point the porn was more in the background really. You had a scene here and there but thats it. Difficult to explain sry.

My question is I guess, does the frequency of h scenes rev up the further you are in or should I make peace with that the game is a story game first and porn game second?

As for the game:
I remember that there are a shit ton of points and variables in play that makes it impossible to keep a track of in one playthrough.
For example getting stronger in your monster form by training in your room, shapeshifting tendencys into a girl, friendship points with literally everyone and to NTR or not to NTR one of your childhood friends.

The training part is actually mandatory if you don't want an early game over if I remember but the other stuff might imply that there a many different outcomes on how the game will play out.

Do the points or characters you invest time in actually matter and changes the game drastically or is it like just pick your favorite but the game plays out the same anyway.
Also is the NTR part still in the game and doubles down on that or did it lost focus down the line?
Unknowns on the internet, but here? We're brothers!



As for your questions, the scenes h become a bit more recurrent, we have a good amount of them in the game now, plus the art has improved a lot, still, I'd say it's a 65 story for 35 scenes h



Power and skill are the main thing, any kind of change is linked to your Power and Skill. Although it has some minor ramifications, it's not a game-changer. Valravn's recognition, if you fight with honor and beat him you earn his recognition. The meeting with Aglaecwif, which you may not get to at first, If you kill Christie, Ella, a few days later comes back and kills you, and the rescue of Laurie, there are a few, but there are a few, apart from the death endings



The characters are by far one of the game's strong points, every character, even the worst ones, are good, even if only a little, there are characters who appear 3 or 4 times during the whole game and we still love them. For example, the romantic interests, Ella and Alice have most people's hearts, but it's no surprise to hear that there are people who would go for someone else, I, for example, love Claudia, cute and innocent, I like her, but don't think that only the female characters stand out, Deryl and Michael are simply amazing, and even more so now in the latest updates. Despite this, the characters don't change the story, the story is just one and we follow it, with only a few slight changes


NTR end after Liz
 

Ero genius

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This game must have the most dedicated community still talking and theorizing about the lore and characters of a porn game on this site. Maybe Out of Touch could rival the dedication but the dev is.... weird to keep it nice :HideThePain:

Everytime I come around I see paragraphes of text about discussions or opinions of characters.:)
Don't get me wrong I think this is awesome and it tells me that the dev has written a good mystery story.

So I hope you are as dedicated when it comes to my questions.

What about the "game" or sex scenes xD

As for scenes:
I played a very early version of the game back then and it felt pretty lackluster on the porn aspect as a porn game...if you know what I mean :unsure:
IIRC I played up to the point in which you go into a casino undercover with one of your school friends but turns go wrong and she fucking dies.....supposedly. Dunno what happens afterwards but up to this point the porn was more in the background really. You had a scene here and there but thats it. Difficult to explain sry.

My question is I guess, does the frequency of h scenes rev up the further you are in or should I make peace with that the game is a story game first and porn game second?

As for the game:
I remember that there are a shit ton of points and variables in play that makes it impossible to keep a track of in one playthrough.
For example getting stronger in your monster form by training in your room, shapeshifting tendencys into a girl, friendship points with literally everyone and to NTR or not to NTR one of your childhood friends.

The training part is actually mandatory if you don't want an early game over if I remember but the other stuff might imply that there a many different outcomes on how the game will play out.

Do the points or characters you invest time in actually matter and changes the game drastically or is it like just pick your favorite but the game plays out the same anyway.
Also is the NTR part still in the game and doubles down on that or did it lost focus down the line?
To answer your fear about random stuff there's a guide explaining everything plus a mod if you need it. Shapeshifting the mc to female to have sex give slut points but I don't know what it's there for now. Could be a different ending modifer
 
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its her eyes.... hahah btw I helped her
So guys, what are your thoughts on Henri’s power drawback? View attachment 5091068
In my opinion, I think it’s all about control. The more power he uses, the more he loses control over it, and maybe that even affects his mind and sanity, But if he rests afterward, he should be able to recover.

That’s probably why the other two members of H.E.R.O were so worried about his control when the three of them were flying together. Back then, he told them he was fine, but now we can see why they were concerned.
Henri's basically a living doomsday device with a badly set up clock, Bernhardt and Malik trained between their Evolutions and therefore gained a great Control in the same level than their power, Henri on the other hand evolved back and forth from level 1 to 5, not having the possibility to learn how to properly wield his power, worse still, even if the three are on the same league of power, Malik/Bernie are pretty straight forward, Pyrokinesis and Pressure Manipulation, sure they can do crazy stuff like 'burn' immaterial stuff or break Gravity/Time by the scale of their power, but it all boils down to their Element, is something they have full control over, Henri on the other hand can do pretty much whatever, his powers are(apparently) all about blending Fantasy/Truth, one slip of his mind might result on earth just puffing out of existence, or all living humans becoming Honey, like you mention, there's a reason why Malik immediately turn to Henri and pretty much asked him if he stop Earth's rotation while also avoiding everyone going out into outer space by the sudden halt, almost make me think Henri has already done some planetary-scale fuck up that only him and Malik/Bernhardt remember or something.
 

KingAgamemnon

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I wonder what options are on the poll, since his comments last time about just making Gender Bender scenes regardless and taking it off the poll.
 
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