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The thing is, this is one of the only times it's specifically mentioned that she's going to be away from MC. Every other time, you can excuse it with her adjusting herself inside MC's remains, or any other excuse, really.
Yeah, Ella has shown that she can exist inside another, like she did with Jake during Hero Infiltration. However Ella also lies and is tricksy as fuck, so I wouldn't be surprised if she had a way to both attach herself to MC and stay in the monster world at the same time.
 

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Guys, do you think it's possible, for example, for the chosen of Authority and Power to reproduce and create a monster that's 50/50 with the powers of Order?
 
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Looks like Weird dude is finally upping his game. Just see how magical, supernatural, menacing and godlike they look, the size comparison is absolutely crazy here. THEY look like monsters that most level 4s would have trouble defeating like MCs father said, not that tiny goofy ass werewolf. Also, just imagine the entire VN with this kind of art, especially the battle scenes. Maybe this is what 1.0s gonna look like?
 
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Chicos, ¿creéis que es posible, por ejemplo, que los elegidos entre Autoridad y Poder se reproduzcan y creen un monstruo 50/50 con los poderes del Orden?
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Guys, do you think it's possible, for example, for the chosen of Authority and Power to reproduce and create a monster that's 50/50 with the powers of Order?
Naturally, I don't think so; it would require, so to speak, the permission of both the first and second apostles. Just like our MC, who in the fourth apostolate convinced the third apostle to create a hybrid of 50 and 50 —well, in MC it's 50 and 49, but you get the idea— both apostles need to be in agreement.
 
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So, the obvious thing is to focus on the giant monsters, but what I'm wondering is what Syla is doing down there. That's not just her being used as a reference for scale, that's new art. She's wearing an outfit we haven't seen her in before. I wonder if that means we're going to get more memories of hers, soon. The MC did say that he expected to come back to her memory vault again.

Or, since it's really hard to tell the difference between the two of them, that might just be the MC in a female form. Female MC looks near identical to his mother, especially zoomed out like that. Not sure why he'd be wearing a new dress, though. Going to a party where he has to disguise himself, and can't use an existing person's appearance for whatever reason?
 

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So, the obvious thing is to focus on the giant monsters, but what I'm wondering is what Syla is doing down there. That's not just her being used as a reference for scale, that's new art. She's wearing an outfit we haven't seen her in before. I wonder if that means we're going to get more memories of hers, soon. The MC did say that he expected to come back to her memory vault again.

Or, since it's really hard to tell the difference between the two of them, that might just be the MC in a female form. Female MC looks near identical to his mother, especially zoomed out like that. Not sure why he'd be wearing a new dress, though. Going to a party where he has to disguise himself, and can't use an existing person's appearance for whatever reason?
That's most likely FemMC, there's another preview with her and Tiffany in dresses
 

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Naturally, I don't think so; it would require, so to speak, the permission of both the first and second apostles. Just like our MC, who in the fourth apostolate convinced the third apostle to create a hybrid of 50 and 50 —well, in MC it's 50 and 49, but you get the idea— both apostles need to be in agreement.
Well, Hex exists, and it's said that he has both Ether and Time, so I don't think it's THAT impossible.
 
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Well, Hex exists, and it's said that he has both Ether and Time, so I don't think it's THAT impossible.
I suppose you're talking about those teleportation circles—that's different, those are mutations. It's not the same as having it as an origin trait. Some traits follow different paths."
 
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Well, Hex exists, and it's said that he has both Ether and Time, so I don't think it's THAT impossible.
"I suppose you're talking about those teleportation circles—that's different, those are mutations. It's not the same as having it as an origin trait. Some traits follow different paths. Many monsters have lineage like 30% from one apostle, 30% from another, and 40% from a third. It's very common. Even if a monster has a 50/50 lineage from two twin apostles, it doesn't mean it will have traits from either of them, or from the origin." The problem with Hex is that it doesn't have the traits of the two apostles, but rather one that's different from theirs. To have a chance at obtaining the power of the origin, it needs to have at least both traits—like in MC."
 
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Greetings!, I've been reading the thread after a few days, and I'm a little bit confused about Ella's eyes. I initially believed that she got her eyes from a "friend", who the MC may meet in the future, after completing their sidequest (trial), this led me to believe that there was someone out there (probably an entity like Shopkeep) handing out "upgrades" cyberpunk style in exchange of completing quests. (This is from Ella's conversation with the MC at the soul-tree thingies at Monster World, perhaps I'm remebering it wrong).

Pd: You may remember me as Oota, the guy with the chicken t-posing to the sunset.
 

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"I suppose you're talking about those teleportation circles—that's different, those are mutations. It's not the same as having it as an origin trait. Some traits follow different paths. Many monsters have lineage like 30% from one apostle, 30% from another, and 40% from a third. It's very common. Even if a monster has a 50/50 lineage from two twin apostles, it doesn't mean it will have traits from either of them, or from the origin." The problem with Hex is that it doesn't have the traits of the two apostles, but rather one that's different from theirs. To have a chance at obtaining the power of the origin, it needs to have at least both traits—like in MC."
I know that. The best example is the Banshee, which has a 50/50 mix of Darkness and Fantasy. But I'm referring to cases where two monsters have 100% of the bloodline of each pair of twins, like Authority and Power or Ether and Time, reproducing to achieve a 50/50 blend of each twin. Hex is a Hexenringe with a mutation that gave him a partial lineage of Time, enabling him to do things like create pocket dimensions.
 

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Guys, do you think it's possible, for example, for the chosen of Authority and Power to reproduce and create a monster that's 50/50 with the powers of Order?
Yes. Why wouldn't it be possible beyond them being the same gender? It won't automatically result in the true form of Order, mind you. Since it's implied that you still would need the Origin for that to happen. But said child between the Chosen would get a bastardized version of Order. It could be subtle with no difference between Authority and Power respectively, for example.
 
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Greetings!, I've been reading the thread after a few days, and I'm a little bit confused about Ella's eyes. I initially believed that she got her eyes from a "friend", who the MC may meet in the future, after completing their sidequest (trial), this led me to believe that there was someone out there (probably an entity like Shopkeep) handing out "upgrades" cyberpunk style in exchange of completing quests. (This is from Ella's conversation with the MC at the soul-tree thingies at Monster World, perhaps I'm remebering it wrong).

Pd: You may remember me as Oota, the guy with the chicken t-posing to the sunset.
Your guess is as good as anyone's. We don't know where Ella got the knowledge to do her power-up trial. It might have been from her friend (probably the one-eyed swordsman monster that was guarding the Ella Doll), because she says they taught her a lot of things about the supernatural. But it might have come straight from the 3rd and 4th Apostles, Ella is ambiguously in communication with them somehow. Hell, it might even have been something that Tanos figured out and told Ella back when she still was talking to him. We don't know. Whatever the case, the MC probably will have more trials to do eventually, since they're implied to be important to reaching level 5.
 
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