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Fatalfury10

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While I wait for the goat himself Estrada to make the android port for this update, I gotta say that Jake should've saw through what Ella was trying to do. I chose not to kill Jake as I felt that dude needed to have a redemption arc but thats just me
 
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While I wait for the goat himself Estrada to make the android port for this update, I gotta say that Jake should've saw through what Ella was trying to do. I chose not to kill Jake as I felt that dude needed to have a redemption arc but thats just me
I just try keeping everyone alive like danica, Danu etc cuz power of friendship and because I hope they'll help MC out later on big time.
 

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They said can't be beaten by being teleported away. If the teleport doesn't work at all, they can't be beaten that way. Eisheth is the perfect example, MC even gets to see that one himself. I wonder what he'd have thought if he saw Ella dodging teleportation.

It's definitely why she has her knife though. Whether it's the knife itself or Nico's inherent strength, we know from how much it hurt Eisheth that it's a lot stronger than MC's mantis axe combo (or was during that fight). So she has an answer to fighting if her portals can't do the job, but it's not an amazing one for an S rank like the Fenrir.
The point is that Nico couldn't have known an S-class monster could survive being thrown into the sun because no one had ever survived that before. Neither Eisheth nor Ella were thrown into the sun.
Do try to read between the lines a little.
 

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But I sometimes see discussions in here that over analyse media to death when you over think the physics and biology. If a character moves at superspeed, do we really need to waste time to explain the physics behind it, do we really need to waste time explaining why the sperm cell doesn't dissappear from the egg.

So my thoughts on this are simple, if the story in question doesn't use physics or biology to explain it's world or setting, then no, you shouldn't need to explain it. Sure, people can come up with reasonable explanations using such, but if the story doesn't necessarily use our physics, than the author can just say, "That's not how my story works, okay?" and you have to accept that.

Superhuman, on the other hand, does use a similar enough concept of our physical universe, and in fact delves into how it's physics and biology are similar and different, enough that it could be considered disingenuous to not consider things from that perspective. After all, while the energy source for our powers is not explicitly stated, it has been explained that you cannot bend or break the laws of physics until you are at least a level 4 or 5, respectively, superhuman. I'm not saying you have to, but in this or other threads where the story is somewhat based in real or imagined science, it's not fair to the game to not consider it.


Ok, but is no one going to talk about the micro organisms that cannot be eaten or digested by anything on earth but can eat Earth's biology? Because that seems pretty important. Also, should the monsters win this war, I'm pretty sure the last card played by humanity will be to destroy their planet, denying their opponent the victory
I mean, we came back from just such a world last update. After all, Aos says that the air on Earth is nasty to him, but to us, it's the air on his world that is toxic. After all, the only reason we could survive was because we were superhumans, and even then, the lower our level, the (generally) longer it took to adapt.

It's concerning to say the least, but it's currently a manageable problem. If it becomes a major issue, I'm sure we'll end up involved somehow, either because Xanthe wants to see if we can change them back, or because someone we know ends up having to clean up that mess.


I don't think any monster other than a special few (maybe Glae, Indra etc) can do anything to Sun.
The sun is, well, MAAAAAASIVE.

I wonder what would happen if Nico teleports a monster in the center of a Black hole, would be more dangerous than the center of sun.
Probably depends on the monster, since black holes bend and possibly break the laws of physics as we understand them. I'd say any S class with a strong body, like the Fenrir, would probably be injured but alive, but if Syla was capable of truly recreating Aos' power, and Aos is capable of making an actual black hole equivalent with his powers, the Chosen at least might just shrug it off. I'd rather see her try to use her powers in different ways, because it seems like she hasn't really developed new techniques since she could send things into the sun.

For example, what if she could use 2 hexenringe to teleport a part of her opponent away, allowing her to do damage herself, instead of relying on the sun? Sure, it would commit 2 to one teleport, and it would likely be more difficult, using 2 of them simultaneously in parallel, instead of just putting them together for one massive teleport, but if it works, she becomes far more dangerous to anyone without the ability to manipulate space, or the power to forcibly cancel her teleport. Nico's power isn't weak because she is weak, it's weak because she hasn't had to be creative with it for far and away too long.

To the people who say, "She can't get new powers because she's a level 5," you are right. However, this isn't a new power I'm describing, it's a different way of using her current powers, which should still be a viable path to growth. Not necessarily the most optimal path, in Nico's opinion, but she's been coasting on her technique because most monsters can't survive the sun. It's time she tried something different, possibly even try sending things to or bringing things from the antimatter universe to kill them. Yeah, maybe she can't send them there because she lacks the power, or can't teleport there without some understanding of the difference between the two universes, but that's where Xanthe could come in and figure out how to get her to teleport across the universes.


Do the 3rd and 4th know about The Eye?

Maybe? To my recollection, the 4th knew something was wrong with Syla enough that she couldn't be it's Chosen anymore, but Syla seemed to imply that right now, they shouldn't know for sure about us being wrong yet. Even then, I'm not 100% sure that they know about the Eye in specific, because it may not have been a major player up until this point. It's possible that the Eye is a secret preparation that the Apostles, Outer Twins, and possibly the other Arbiters don't know about.
 

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Maybe? To my recollection, the 4th knew something was wrong with Syla enough that she couldn't be it's Chosen anymore, but Syla seemed to imply that right now, they shouldn't know for sure about us being wrong yet. Even then, I'm not 100% sure that they know about the Eye in specific, because it may not have been a major player up until this point. It's possible that the Eye is a secret preparation that the Apostles, Outer Twins, and possibly the other Arbiters don't know about.
It feels like The Eye is a much more powerful being than the Apostles, and has a greater purpose for the MC. Which makes it weird that an Apostle would reject someone with a connection to a greater entity (Syla, possibly). I haven't played since 0.999 (damn it's hard keeping track of the 9s), so I'm sure a lot more about The Eye has been revealed that I'm not privy too.

But the initial impression that I got was that The Eye was the MC's connection to something far greater than monsters, superhumans, and even the Apostles.
 
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Guys, Eisheth is not immune to being teleported to the sun, Hex protected her just like it did with Cole, Zara and Briar in the interview.
I did actually forget that about it. Probably because all the green in most of Hex's other active scenes isn't in that particular image, or I just forgot that too. I do still think she could say no to being teleported if her own power was active but there's no reason for me to be confident about that now that I remember the scene properly.

Do the 3rd and 4th know about The Eye?
Personally I think that's their entire goal in wanting a perfect 50/50 spawn between them. The Eye itself says it was searching for a candidate like that, and MC was as close to perfect as it came across. What were the 6 original gods called again, Arbiters? Ella knows about them, and we know Henri inherited the power of one himself. My thought is that the 3rd and 4th want their Arbiter or its power around and had Ella working to find the perfect spawn for it.
 
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So how do you explain MC being able to impregnate monsters? MC isn't infertile, we just don't know what conditions allow he to impregnate other beings. If Xanthe prioritized studying why he can impregnate monsters, perhaps she could find a way for superhumans to have children.
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First choice of the game, and I'm already forced to choose between [having sex content, but being a dickhead] and [being a decent human being, but having no content]. In a sex game.
I hate it here.

Words can't describe how I hate when authors do that.
i read some of your later comments and dude just save her. it's a groping scene that could be hardly considered titillating given the context and yes the other guy was right it's not in the gallery. the only things that should concern you are actual sexual encounters not your first fmc being groped by rando's who won't leave her alone. and don't worry their aren't too many scenes like this that aren't actually tied to the characters personalities and kinks.
 

Shadowdragon

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Twins evolve twice, so they can't be at level 4.
With that said, there are multiple Watsonian reasons the twins might not be level 5. Tanos wants them to spend more time refining their skills at level 3, he doesn't want to risk them (I believe he says his serum is worse than Xanthe's), or he thinks they can achieve level 5 naturally - which would be absolutely massive for SIN.

The Doylist reasons are that the twins being at level 5 might make things too easy for SIN, and WW probably wants MC to have a rematch with them at level 3.
I dunno why people read it like this; I've never interpreted the double evo thing this way. The way I've always read it, when one twin evolves, it triggers the evolution in the other. So when Devanna hit evo 2, it caused Evander to also hit evo 2.

They hit evo 3 as quick as they did because they're under the constant eye of Tanos who has specifically been guiding their training and growth.
Maybe, but it would explain how Limber are going to catch up so quickly, and why Evander is so limited in terms of what he can do with his power.
So, I'm pretty sure that KingAgamemnon is right in how Superhuman evolutions with paired twins work. Let's ask a simple question, how did Henri evolve 4 times in a week? IIRC, his evolution to level 2 might have been a stress of battle forced him to level up, but I think he was injected with a monster venom, so that might have technically been an artificial evolution. The other three, on the other hand, seem to have been because he was fighting, or was in a fight with a ton of monsters, with some implication that at least two of them were artificial evolutions. So at minimum 2 artificial, at maximum 4. Most people agree that Henri is the chimera that Tanos is jealous of his father for, so why didn't Henry go from 1 to 3, then 3 to 5, like people seem to imply from twin evolutions? Because twin evolutions force them to evolve together, not twice at once. A likely advantage of twin evolutions is that because they are bound together, they likely have a lower chance of monsterfying due to having each other to lean on. It also means that in theory, Tanos could pump out level 5's quickly, if the problem of control of their powers was of no concern to him, because each individual could have 2 artifical evolutions before they get accustomed to artificial evolutions. Devana and Evander being a perfect pair, he likely doesn't want to let them be anything other than perfect, so he has them at level 3 now so that they can reach an acceptable level of control over their powers before letting them have more serum.

Limber will catch up quickly because of what Mia said during the party, that Amber's power has no technical limit on how much power she can hold, even as a level 1. If anything, the likely limiter on their growth is that Liz's physicality means she can't grow as fast, and is likely the reason that Amber feels pain, it's their link letting Amber know that Liz can't manage anymore power. Once they reach level 3, on screen or off, Amber's probably gonna power up exponentially faster than anyone else, us and Captains included. Except maybe Henri, but he's really an outlier.


It feels like The Eye is a much more powerful being than the Apostles, and has a greater purpose for the MC. Which makes it weird that an Apostle would reject someone with a connection to a greater entity (Syla, possibly). I haven't played since 0.999 (damn it's hard keeping track of the 9s), so I'm sure a lot more about The Eye has been revealed that I'm not privy too.

But the initial impression that I got was that The Eye was the MC's connection to something far greater than monsters, superhumans, and even the Apostles.
That might be exactly why they don't want the Eye. If they can't have full control over you, they don't want you. Most people believe that the Eye is the Arbiter of Evolution, which got ripped apart into Body and Memory by the Outer Twins, which makes us a perfect vessel for it, if we have a chance to upgrade ourselves from a two in one to the original power. If you jumped into the Chaos flames, and took the -10 power from it, it's somewhat implied that Order, Evolution, and Infinity were ripped apart before they had much chance to prepare, but there seems to have been a fourth Arbiter ready when the Outer Twins attacked, and the general consensus is that the other one who was prepared was Evolution.
 
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You mean like her fight vs Ella? Yeah that happened already
yeah but that was because when she tried to throw Ella in the sun Ella revealed she due to her shapeshifting could make decoy bodies like the MC and when Nico changed her strategy to throwing pieces of the sun AT her Ella revealed she had a busted "unchange" ability for her body if she didn't move. these are strategies i would only assume a level five shapeshifter could do and not a massive powerhouse monster. of course nico isn't super bright as she might've guessed a creature that could briefly handle Malik the sun god would probably need more than just a sun dip.
 
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So, we all agree that the MC is evolving next update right?
I'm not one of those people who ask for an evolution after every single update but, that being said, I feel like it HAS to happen in the next one.

Like, you can't NOT evolve the MC after the "Level 4 when?" meta-joke WW did in this chapter, right? At that point he would be basically admiting that he's dragging it.

The circumstances are perfect for an evolution as well. MC will most likely have to defend the base while the level 5s and 4s (though not all of them) fight the 4 S-Ranks.

I assume SIN will send monsters to the HQ too, along people like Met, Evander, Devana, etc. There's a lot of potential match-ups for our boy.

If it doesn't happen then I'll just accept that WW is gonna drag it until we get to 1.0.
 
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So, we all agree that the MC is evolving next update right?
I'm not one of those people who ask for an evolution after every single update but, that being said, I feel like it HAS to happen in the next one.

Like, you can't NOT evolve the MC after the "Level 4 when?" meta-joke WW did in this chapter, right? At that point he would be basically admiting that he's dragging it.

The circumstances are perfect for an evolution as well. MC will most likely have to defend the base while the level 5s and 4s (though not all of them) fight the 4 S-Ranks.

I assume SIN will send monsters to the HQ too, along people like Met, Evander, Devana, etc. There's a lot of potential match-ups for our boy.

If it doesn't happen then I'll just accept that WW is gonna drag it until we get to 1.0.
Something that stuck out to me in the update was Deryl saying that the frat house was on the edge of R&X and few people paid attention to it. Meaning that it's probably a weak point in H.E.R.O.'s defensive coverage. What do you think the odds are that the MC will have to deal with one of S.I.N.'s strike forces landing right on his doorstep? And most of the superhumans at the party are passed out drunk, meaning it will be just him and Deryl until H.E.R.O. can send reinforcements. That should give the MC plenty of pressure to evolve.
 

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So, we all agree that the MC is evolving next update right?
I'm not one of those people who ask for an evolution after every single update but, that being said, I feel like it HAS to happen in the next one.

Like, you can't NOT evolve the MC after the "Level 4 when?" meta-joke WW did in this chapter, right? At that point he would be basically admiting that he's dragging it.

The circumstances are perfect for an evolution as well. MC will most likely have to defend the base while the level 5s and 4s (though not all of them) fight the 4 S-Ranks.

I assume SIN will send monsters to the HQ too, along people like Met, Evander, Devana, etc. There's a lot of potential match-ups for our boy.

If it doesn't happen then I'll just accept that WW is gonna drag it until we get to 1.0.
Pretty sure, WW has talked about in streams in the past, MC will be put in the wringer.. I expect MC to suffer to start it off. He loves foreshadowing events, so Dave might be getting packed, or a fakeout and another friend dies. I do not see any LIs getting killed off without MC being able to save them so... yeah male friends are in trouble lol. Also I am pretty sure he said on a past stream that Met was the only level 3 that MC could not potentially beat, plus MC got some injection that should help. Might be unpopular because they are loved around here, but HERO needs this tbh they have been wanked so hard they deserve to take some Ls tbh, they got too cocky and complacent. For a while now, I have been expecting Clark's death tbh, idk something tells me he will bite the dust... one of the good HERO members and level 5 would be a big hit. So I actually think this is where Val gets rescued too while everything will be out of order. The cliffhanger will 100% be where MC evolves lol... Wonder how the eye reacts, talking more being helpful, I actually like it how it is. Please do not do the takeover MC route. I just know the cliffhanger will hit hard.
 
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Pretty sure, WW has talked about in streams in the past, MC will be put in the wringer.. I expect MC to suffer to start it off. He loves foreshadowing events, so Dave might be getting packed, or a fakeout and another friend dies. I do not see any LIs getting killed off without MC being able to save them so... yeah male friends are in trouble lol. Also I am pretty sure he said on a past stream that Met was the only level 3 that MC could not potentially beat, plus MC got some injection that should help. Might be unpopular because they are loved around here, but HERO needs this tbh they have been wanked so hard they deserve to take some Ls tbh, they got too cocky and complacent. For a while now, I have been expecting Clark's death tbh, idk something tells me he will bite the dust... one of the good HERO members and level 5 would be a big hit. So I actually think this is where Val gets rescued too while everything will be out of order. The cliffhanger will 100% be where MC evolves lol... Wonder how the eye reacts, talking more being helpful, I actually like it how it is. Please do not do the takeover MC route. I just know the cliffhanger will hit hard.
Like the past 2 evolutions (Im assuming), this one will also be safe from the cliffhanger I believe. If we get an evolution next update we'll definitely see the full power of it cuz I think thats just how WW does things. No way we'll get cucked out of it that would be worst cliffhanger to date I believe.
 

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So my thoughts on this are simple, if the story in question doesn't use physics or biology to explain it's world or setting, then no, you shouldn't need to explain it. Sure, people can come up with reasonable explanations using such, but if the story doesn't necessarily use our physics, than the author can just say, "That's not how my story works, okay?" and you have to accept that.

Superhuman, on the other hand, does use a similar enough concept of our physical universe, and in fact delves into how it's physics and biology are similar and different, enough that it could be considered disingenuous to not consider things from that perspective. After all, while the energy source for our powers is not explicitly stated, it has been explained that you cannot bend or break the laws of physics until you are at least a level 4 or 5, respectively, superhuman. I'm not saying you have to, but in this or other threads where the story is somewhat based in real or imagined science, it's not fair to the game to not consider it.
I think you're missing my point in that you can over analyse it, there come's a point where its just pedantic, looking at it in way that no setting with powers will hold up to without being exceedingly because such a setting would waste 90% of its time on explaining.

Many of the characters break the laws of biology and physics at level 1 but as long as it doesn't take you out of the story in the moment, its fine, that if the problem is only evident by over analysing fans like us who over analyse the details, then its not nothing issue.

Just to remind you, this is over a single cell and that I don't think the author should have to waste their time to say, well in this circumstance, the single fucking cell doesn't vanish. I could give you a reason, the MC eats food, that food doesn't vanish from existence, surely some of him has to stay.

My point being is that you can make up a reason, but for a lot of smaller or more accepted super hero tropes, the author shouldn't have to waste their time.
 
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