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I'm ashamed at how long I've been here...........................You know the AVN is good when tourists start arriving.
That was kinda my point.....
Logic aside.......pretty sick burn...
It's actually so true; we can't all live up to such high aspirations as the official tour guide of all things AVN
A legacy your grandkids will brag about.
obibobi
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I think people get too hung up on this and focus too much on the literal mechanical aspect of how powers work and forget that the powers work predominantly based on theme, to the point that we are even having this discussion on whether they would need to expend energy on something so mundane and normal.
I would like to think that we can simply use common sense and that the issue with detached material is relevant to the MC's ability to create things outside of his body, it exists to explain why he doesn't mass produce copies of himself or casually produce items, it exists to keep the MC's powers in check. That Weird shouldn't be required to tell us that he needs to waste any effort at all with a sperm cell, because that's normal and the thematic power of the body should know the difference, that the Body aspect of all powers, is not going to actively hinder pregnancy. Destruction maybe, but not the Body.
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95% its just the end of part 1 and he will continue after either his next game or soon after. One of the biggest reasons for him to have what can considered a complete game, is so that he can put it on Steam with the possibility of heavily boosting awareness of the game.
If he where to end it at one, long lists have been made about all the unresolved plot threads and the last update alone did things that made little sense for a story about to end, introducing new characters to the organisation and most of all making a big deal about the MC joining a Hero team, something that is meaningless if the story doesn't continue.
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Took me a surprising amount of time to animate this.
I'm going to work on animating other sections of the manor fight now.
What's the best way to put these into the game? I want to put animated sections, whether they be looping, or just key frames into the story to complement the images based on the original artwork.
I'm going to work on animating other sections of the manor fight now.
What's the best way to put these into the game? I want to put animated sections, whether they be looping, or just key frames into the story to complement the images based on the original artwork.
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The doctor said the MC will only get the evolution serum when he is level 4 so I assume that he will evolve to level 4 and then get an injection from the doctor to evolve to 5 assuming the facility still holds by the time the MC evolved to level 4...
Wait, what? Does WW really wants to put superhuman on steam? I mean, i dont follow his streams, so idk. Also, does he wants to put part one that would be complete, or part 2 somewhere in future?
Cause if he wants to put part 1, then i'm pretty sure he would have to cut some content, like 1 necrophilia scene and more. But i'm not sure, might have to check steam guide or recruirements on that (which i never had any reason to do so, being just a player).
dolfe67
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I don't know all the censorship to be on steam, especially as it changed recently, but it's a real pain in the ass and arbitrary in a lot of cases. Though he already censored something in the second to last update between beta and out-of-beta versions: the monster who can fuck and impregnate MC in his female form is now a centaur instead of a full-on beast. Maybe it was only for patreon and not steam but heh.
Jonathan Y
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Yeah that was bullshit. When I first saw that scene I thought how hardcore it was, the og design of that horse looked straight out of Berserk or some shit.
Then it got changed to a hot six pack centaur guy. Meh.
If you look at the Visual Novels Steam bans you will realize WW would have to butcher this game like a carcass for it to pass and stay on that God forsaken platform.
There is an evening news in early game about p**sy flowers which sound interesting. Is there an interaction with it in the game? It can be very good if there is.
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Well, it could happen, but I think it's unlikely, lv 5 is suposed to be an extremely exclusive club, accesible only to those who completed complicated requirements (until Xanthe started forging invitations), moreover, Aos said something like the MC would truly understand how fucked up his situation is once he reaches said level, so it could be reserved for later. Also note that a lv4 MC could be very well be on par with the newer lv5s, especially with the Eye now active, so there could be no need for him to evolve in the short term. So far our protagonist has evolved from human to lv 3 (soon to be 4), the next part could start from lv4 and have him acquire alternative ways to increase his Power (as Nico has hinted at), like Deryl's "Philosopher's Pebble", Ella's eyes or the DW sword that we haven't heard from for a while, then reach lv5 (preferably through natural ways, Xanthe's serum if failed decisions and/or checks, and finally that "different" stage that he is supposed to get to (like that statue in the sky city, idk if he would skip lv5 to this one).
(Then again, he could die and be reborn with the help of Nyx's mark, though this might be just a trial.)
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IIRC, he's just gonna use v1.0 as an excuse to use a more normalized update versioning scheme. The whole reason we have v1.0 in the first place is because he didn't realize that there was a difference between version 0.1 and 0.10.
This is actually a good shout. For the sake of what the story is building up with the Eye and MC's potential I don't see him NOT getting a natural level 5 evolution. Xanthe would absolutely use the serum if level 4 MC keeps impressing, so it would make sense that they're gonna lose HQ and the serum as a result of this conflict.
I mostly just wanna know what MC's level 5 requirement checklist is though. If you're doing well on your choices he can be on an absolutely massive winstreak that starts with one of the most deadly Chosen (severely weakened, but even Xanthe is aware of how huge that accomplishment was). That's gotta be a damn good start.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it has not been made official wether evolving to level 5 without the serum was/is a factor in becoming op like the captains.
Fans speculate that due to Bernhardt's comments about Xanthe's serum being flawed back when he was scrutinizing Kira and Elijah that taking the serum would mean one would not reach the same heights as one who reaches level 5 without it. But as far as I know that is only a fan theory and has not been confirmed no ?
I mean Michael used the serum and yet the 2th still communicated to him and gave him his trials so personaly I would not take the '' no serum is the way to go '' theory as cannon.
It could be that the reason the captains are so op is because they reached level 5 naturally, or it could be just one factor that contributed to their powers, or it could be irrelevant, who knows.
Also, another thing to note, if the theory that reaching level 5 without outside influence leads to greatest potential is cannon ( which I'm not sure about ), then the Mc already fibbed it no ? Because back in the Battle Of Diamonds he evolved by being exposed to monster blood, Xanthe himself says that was kind of in the same vein as how his serum works. Or am I remembering it wrong ?
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Dismissing in-universe mechanics because of its out of universe/narrative mechanic is a massive cop out and cheapens the story. Superhuman sterility haven't had much in-universe weight since they have had to focus more on short term goals, but the MC overcoming that issue would be a huge deal.
Yes the dissolving aspect is a comparatively tiny issue for the MC/Ella specifically but I believe it was last update that MC said he had tried to make a doll like Ella but failed. I don't think WW would have included that if it didn't have at least some narrative reason and the fertility topic could be one reason.
It is unlikely that the MC will get the serum right after evolving. I forget if it was said in game or on a stream but you have to be "ready" to evolve again, which most likely takes days to weeks, or risk failing.
In-universe I don't think it has been stated other than that one conversation, though I felt it did lean towards Bernhardt being wrong.
On a stream WW said that the serum is objectively better for 2 reasons I can remember: It allows you to evolve at a place/time that is the most optimal for your mental stability/physical safety and the serum actually is more "efficient", providing a bigger boost to your power when you evolve. Though the boost was a comparatively small one, 10% at most or something I think WW said.
If Bernhardt had been able to take the serum just before evolving naturally he would be just as or slightly stronger than he is now. The biggest difference between the 3 Captains and the other lackluster level 5s are that the Captains completed their trials.
As for trials: The serum is basically just a refined/customized version of what the MC did to reach his 3rd evolution. There is no reason the Apostles should care about their use from what I've heard.
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The Serum isn't flawed just as you mention, Bernhardt's line of thought that make him reach that conclusion was immediately shut down by Henri himself, as the latter said, they were just different, stronger the Lieutenants in lvl 5, even since their forth evolution. About if it's better or not, I don't think so, I'm more on the boat about that the serum just give open route for people that normally wouldn't be fit to evolve to their fifth, like is not a matter if said Artificial Evolution is better or worse, but that on their own, they wouldn't have achieved it, either by not being that special or failing a Trial. One thing that's worth remembering though, ia that WeirdWorld has mention how natural final Evos are extremely dangerous, even on game Clark briefly bring that up, apparently Malik and Bernhardt somehow come scarred by the process.
Other thing though, the Captains beyond Bernie and Malik weren't natural, they were level fourth until Xanthe produce the Serum like two years ago, the reason of why they are so much stronger than others level 5 for what we can tell, beyond the obvious decades worth of hoarding power, is apparently because they sought power in ways different that just training like common supers did, Nico hint at that, she empower herself taming Hexeringes, in her words all the Captains did something similar, maybe corruption play a role too, as Nyx mention that Lucius greatly enjoy the changes that corruption has given to his powers, in brief, beyond Malik, Henri and Bern that are their own bred, the Other Captains did some wacky shit, use corruption and mutations to their advantage, kinda put more emphasis on how natural Evo doesn't really have a say in how strong or weak you end as level 5, is more a matter of people wanting MC to be more or at least as 'Special' as the Trio of H.E.R.O
What a shit week it was.
There is. Since Superhumans are constantly adapting to both the power and their surroundings and thus to how they use their power, it stands to reason that you can screw up your progress, like Ella did.
We are not sure of the exact mechanism, but with the trials, there seems to be a 'right' path and while that doesn't necessitate a 'wrong' path, it implies that Superhumans can adapt in ways their ancestors would find undesirable.
It's especially the talk that Superhumans have the potential to outgrow their monster parent. To me all of that is just a lot of implications to talk around the actual situation.
Here's the deal with other ways to gain power: we've been doing that since the cafe scene. Eat people, monsters, parts, memories.
Honestly, Nico explaining her specific way of powering up kind of makes it clear that those pathways are very personal and depend heavily on the parentage of a given superhuman.
BenoTF25
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Yeah, but as she herslef said, everyone searching for their own ways to empower themselves, rather than just keep gaining power via training is the way to go, the Captains most definitely did that on a way that would make sense for their powers, MC is doing that too, eating memories and samples of powerful monsters to keep improving his body and transformations, he's on the right path, but given how 'easy' is for him to diverge in path thanks to the nature of his powers, I suspect that he need to go to a larger extreme to branch his powers in the manner the Captains and Nico did. I mean, Nyx has a ton of differences with the Monster that is suspected to be her Sire, Lucius is confirmed to have warped his powers in some way thanks to corruption, and finally Malik has a sixth sense to tell if a Monster has killed a human or not, despite being mainly a Pyromancer.