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Juan96

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I've seen in several comments the theory that superhumans can't reproduce as a species because each one has very different DNA, but would the mc be able to get Ella Vulpe pregnant? Since she's the closest person to his species, having 100% compatibility with the Third Apostle, considering that mc has 50% compatibility with the Third Apostle and 49% with the Fourth Apostle, and the Third and Fourth Apostles are twins.
 
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Krytax123

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I've seen in several comments the theory that superhumans can't reproduce as a species because each one has very different DNA, but would the mc be able to get Ella Vulpe pregnant? Since she's the closest person to his species, having 100% compatibility with the Third Apostle, considering that mc has 50% compatibility with the Third Apostle and 49% with the Fourth Apostle, and the Third and Fourth Apostles are twins.
Ella herself strongly hints towards it being possible, it would be surprising if they would not be able to, considering they are literal shapeshifters. So MC should probably at least be able to get other shapeshifters, humans and monsters pregnant, not sure about superhumans tho
 

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RIP, my skill was at 27; guess I'm going to have to replay a chunk of the game.

It's kind of frustrating how, every time there's a skill check, I seem to be exactly one point short. It's happened multiple times at this point, though usually the consequences don't matter as much. Is this by design? I follow a pretty simple "strategy" when going through the game: prioritize relationship points over everything (even sex scenes, though I always make a save to check them out), followed by trying to keep everyone alive if possible (so usually forgoing options that increase power or skill at the cost of corruption), followed by everything else, but I always make sure to train as much as I can and do everything else that increases stats, so I'm wondering if it's intentional that choosing not to kill randos earlier in the game should lead to you not having the power to save people you care about later.
Related, but I feel the battle of diamonds lacks the narrative groundwork to justify pulling the player into an emotionally earned desire to save Laurie. Sure we learn of Laurie's struggles and her character as a person before the battle starts, but the issue isn't with Laurie.

Laurie should die. Not because she's a bad character, but because her death would prove the battle has teeth. Only then does saving someone else later feel like a miracle and not a loophole.

When you first read the battle of the diamonds, the conflict was "is Deryl going to become a monster forever and is the MC going to lose his friend?"
When that gets resolved, the battle has ultimately been resolved with no losses to the player/mc.
 

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Ella herself strongly hints towards it being possible, it would be surprising if they would not be able to, considering they are literal shapeshifters. So MC should probably at least be able to get other shapeshifters, humans and monsters pregnant, not sure about superhumans tho
Would getting humans pregnant not require very finely tuned, precise DNA altering shapeshifting ? I mean down to the very cells and shit.

The sort of shapeshifting required to produce sperm that can impregnate humans would likely be the kind of thing the Mc isn't capable of yet. Probably it's akin to that convo he had with Xanthe, the Mc's advantage lies in his memory based abilities which could give him an edge over Ella, but she currently still has/had that very technical and precise shapeshifting capabilities which he hasn't reached yet.

What sperm a creature produces is coded into their DNA, and that kind of altering is beyond the Mc, atleast for now.
 

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Would getting humans pregnant not require very finely tuned, precise DNA altering shapeshifting ? I mean down to the very cells and shit.

The sort of shapeshifting required to produce sperm that can impregnate humans would likely be the kind of thing the Mc isn't capable of yet. Probably it's akin to that convo he had with Xanthe, the Mc's advantage lies in his memory based abilities which could give him an edge over Ella, but she currently still has/had that very technical and precise shapeshifting capabilities which he hasn't reached yet.

What sperm a creature produces is coded into their DNA, and that kind of altering is beyond the Mc, atleast for now.
Not sure its beyond the MC for now, this guy can turn into liquid for fucks sake lol but i feel like its tied to a evolution too, but it will be possible (according to ella)
 

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Would getting humans pregnant not require very finely tuned, precise DNA altering shapeshifting ? I mean down to the very cells and shit.

The sort of shapeshifting required to produce sperm that can impregnate humans would likely be the kind of thing the Mc isn't capable of yet. Probably it's akin to that convo he had with Xanthe, the Mc's advantage lies in his memory based abilities which could give him an edge over Ella, but she currently still has/had that very technical and precise shapeshifting capabilities which he hasn't reached yet.

What sperm a creature produces is coded into their DNA, and that kind of altering is beyond the Mc, atleast for now.

The MC has been altering his DNA since level 1, that's how his memory power works when it comes to taking traits of other creatures or becoming the perfect copy of someone.

This sort of thing is the MC's specialty, he should be able to get damn near anything pregnant after he come's into contact with it. Ella's specialty seems to be made man substances and altering her existing enhanced human biology through understanding.
 
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The MC has been altering his DNA since level 1, that's how his memory power works when it comes to taking traits of other creatures or becoming the perfect copy of someone.

This sort of thing is the MC's specialty, he should be able to get damn near anything pregnant after he come's into contact with it. Ella's specialty seems to be made man substances and altering her existing enhanced human biology through understanding.
I think the big issue MC needs to overcome in order to knock anything up is that anything separated from him dissolves after a while. Someone like Algaecwif is strong enough to just ignore that, but MC hasn't really done any training in regards to maintaining his essence after it is separated from him.
 
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