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The eye that Shopkeep gives MC is the eye of Aglaecwif child. The eye that's bonded to MC is referred to as an Origin and is assumed to be an Arbiter. The set of missing gods above the Apostles. The Eye being Evolution, in this case. Evolution being Memory (4th Apostle) + Body (3rd Apostle).
so does keeping it and not giving the shopkeep eye to aglaecwif actually do anything?
 

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Something interesting Nico mentions in this update is that all the strongest people in the Hero, and even outside of it, don’t rely only on getting stronger through straightforward evolutions. In her case, she has the Hexenringe, but she also says the other captains have similar special tools or mechanisms that boost their power.

So what would the MC have?

I keep thinking his main “tool” might be the memory abilities, but those don’t seem particularly useful for direct combat… Outside of that, he has some body modifications like the monster heart, certain absorptions, items from the shopkeeper, etc. But none of these feel like a concrete, defining power source. Honestly, the impression is that all of this just translates into stat boosts.

Ella definitely had abnormal things in her body to have that kind of overwhelming power.

So what do you think he could develop in the future beyond that?
 
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Something interesting Nico mentions in this update is that all the strongest people in the Hero, and even outside of it, don’t rely only on getting stronger through straightforward evolutions. In her case, she has the Hexenringe, but she also says the other captains have similar special tools or mechanisms that boost their power.

So what would the MC have?

I keep thinking his main “tool” might be the memory abilities, but those don’t seem particularly useful for direct combat… Outside of that, he has some body modifications like the monster heart, certain absorptions, items from the shopkeeper, etc. But none of these feel like a concrete, defining power source. Honestly, the impression is that all of this just translates into stat boosts.

Ella definitely had abnormal things in her body to have that kind of overwhelming power.

So what do you think he could develop in the future beyond that?
I wouldn't say the memory stuff isn't useful in a fight, several times it saved his ass or made his life a lot easier to get an idea what his opponents are capable of. Also memory link is super useful for coordinating fights in a team setting. And at higher evolutions he may be able to do some of the other things that Syla did, who knows.
 

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Something interesting Nico mentions in this update is that all the strongest people in the Hero, and even outside of it, don’t rely only on getting stronger through straightforward evolutions. In her case, she has the Hexenringe, but she also says the other captains have similar special tools or mechanisms that boost their power.

So what would the MC have?

I keep thinking his main “tool” might be the memory abilities, but those don’t seem particularly useful for direct combat… Outside of that, he has some body modifications like the monster heart, certain absorptions, items from the shopkeeper, etc. But none of these feel like a concrete, defining power source. Honestly, the impression is that all of this just translates into stat boosts.

Ella definitely had abnormal things in her body to have that kind of overwhelming power.

So what do you think he could develop in the future beyond that?
Probably just eat more monsters for the time being, until his Memory ability evolves. As is, just assimilating their physiology into his myriad forms has been enough to keep making him stronger even though Xanthe points out that he isn't able to assimilate their innate powers. It might be possible to do so with continued growth in Memory however, because we see the pinnacle of that ability with Syla manifesting other chosen in the fight against Indra. Since the twin trait is Evolution, you'd think that the inherent implication of survival and adaptability might manifest itself in ripping diluted versions of unique powers from what he consumes.
 
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Probably just eat more monsters for the time being, until his Memory ability evolves. As is, just assimilating their physiology into his myriad forms has been enough to keep making him stronger even though Xanthe points out that he isn't able to assimilate their innate powers. It might be possible to do so with continued growth in Memory however, because we see the pinnacle of that ability with Syla manifesting other chosen in the fight against Indra. Since the twin trait is Evolution, you'd think that the inherent implication of survival and adaptability might manifest itself in ripping diluted versions of unique powers from what he consumes.
i wonder how ella would react to mcs mom and if ella would win against her.
 

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It will be, most people fall for the sympathy card or greed card when it comes to that kid. It's weird that the little cunt only comes to take your powers when MC is in the stage of his next evolution which makes me think he is not there for the MC's benefit.
It's been a while since I played that section, but doesn't it make more sense for the shadow child to be MC's and Aglaecwif Child? It only shows up after Aglaecwif tells him their child may be born when they meet again in the future. Enough time had passed for that to be plausible. If so, I'd feel that only positives would come from helping.
 

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It's been a while since I played that section, but doesn't it make more sense for the shadow child to be MC's and Aglaecwif Child? It only shows up after Aglaecwif tells him their child may be born when they meet again in the future. Enough time had passed for that to be plausible. If so, I'd feel that only positives would come from helping.
I highly doubt it because the kid also appears when you don't deal with Aglaecwif. Even if he is MC's child he still promised to give our powers back with interest, otherwise he is going to get this treatment.
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I highly doubt it because the kid also appears when you don't deal with Aglaecwif. Even if he is MC's child he still promised to give our powers back with interest, otherwise he is going to get this treatment.
If you don't meet Aglaecwif, Deryl is the one who fucks her instead.
Which means there's a high chance of it still being Aglaewif's offspring. Yours or Deryls.
 

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How strong would the MC be at level 4? It seems he's pretty strong for a level 3, being able to damage or beat A class monsters even if it's just fighting smart. I'm hoping we get a new form, an upgraded armored form maybe. I just finished the game and was looking to replay, anyone have any advice on how to proceed to get all content? I mostly didn't have sex much (I just screwed all the monsters. Claire's the best.)
 
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How strong would the MC be at level 4? It seems he's pretty strong for a level 3, being able to damage or beat A class monsters even if it's just fighting smart.
well he has around 1k power right now which is relatively rare for normal lvl3-s, and lvl4 would certainly bump that up a lot, by how much exactly we don't know.
 
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How strong would the MC be at level 4? It seems he's pretty strong for a level 3, being able to damage or beat A class monsters even if it's just fighting smart. I'm hoping we get a new form, an upgraded armored form maybe. I just finished the game and was looking to replay, anyone have any advice on how to proceed to get all content? I mostly didn't have sex much (I just screwed all the monsters. Claire's the best.)
if your planning on restarting, kill anything you get the chance to that doesn't lead to a dead end just to see what happens, its what ima do.
 
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