Yep, and he left no choice whatsoever for the players...
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I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.
While running game code:
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in script
$ ui.interact()
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module>
$ ui.interact()
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 361, in __call__
renpy.save(fn, extra_info=save_name)
Exception: Not saved - no valid save locations.
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File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in script
$ ui.interact()
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\ast.py", line 848, in execute
renpy.python.py_exec_bytecode(self.code.bytecode, self.hide, store=self.store)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\python.py", line 1804, in py_exec_bytecode
exec bytecode in globals, locals
File "renpy/common/00gamemenu.rpy", line 173, in <module>
$ ui.interact()
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\ui.py", line 287, in interact
rv = renpy.game.interface.interact(roll_forward=roll_forward, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 2620, in interact
repeat, rv = self.interact_core(preloads=preloads, trans_pause=trans_pause, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\core.py", line 3375, in interact_core
rv = root_widget.event(ev, x, y, 0)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 986, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\transition.py", line 45, in event
return self.new_widget.event(ev, x, y, st) # E1101
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 986, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 986, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\screen.py", line 667, in event
rv = self.child.event(ev, x, y, st)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 986, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 986, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\layout.py", line 986, in event
rv = i.event(ev, x - xo, y - yo, cst)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 897, in event
return handle_click(self.clicked)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 832, in handle_click
rv = run(action)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 299, in run
new_rv = run(i, *args, **kwargs)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\display\behavior.py", line 306, in run
return action(*args, **kwargs)
File "renpy/common/00action_file.rpy", line 361, in __call__
renpy.save(fn, extra_info=save_name)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\loadsave.py", line 434, in save
location.save(slotname, sr)
File "C:\Users\tnt3tnt\Downloads\SwingMiss-0272-pc\SwingMiss-0.27.2-pc\renpy\savelocation.py", line 407, in save
raise Exception("Not saved - no valid save locations.")
Exception: Not saved - no valid save locations.
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Ren'Py 6.99.14.3135
Swing & Miss 0.27.2nope, as I have always said. The premise is good, but the execution of this game is severely lacking.
I still like it though. but the MC is..well not needed, i'd like it more if he was just some faceless dude we mostly didnt get to see, and his wife was the real MC and we got in her head more often than not. But maybe that's because I don't have any interest in being a "cuck" or getting ntr'd. I can't relate to it. but I do enjoy others going through it in some manner of ways.
but mostly just if the husband is like our dear mc here.
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I think it's pretty funny how people complain about a lack of choices. Some games give you that option (Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Witcher,...) others don't (Call of Duty, GTA,...). It's the dev's choice what story he wants to tell, and in this one the player isn't a part of it and THAT'S FINE. You can be disappointed by it, but to say the execution is "severely lacking" is just short-sighted as far as I'm concerned.
Am I missing some content here? I get to MC kissing foot and after that return to the MainMenu. No exceptions that I'd see. Anyone experiencing same issues?
This is what I am getting as well. But it doesn't say the version is over it just seems to skip to main menu from nowhere. Anybody else also have this? Is that because the game ends there for now? Seems like a very strange place to stop.
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I don't think it's an issue, it's just end of content. The sadpanda gallery also doesn't show any more CGs.
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for what it is, it's severely lacking. Not for what it isn't.
Because comparing this to real AAA titles makes sense.
Also I never complained about the lack of choices. I just agreed with the statement that he doesnt give the player any choice.
It will have a couple of choices towards the end (there will be 6 different endings) but as of now, it is just Visual Novel (no choices).
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Fine, replace Dragon Age and The Witcher with Seeds of Chaos and The Tyrant and replace Call of Duty and GTA with Milfy City and Curse of Pleasure or something, my point still stands.
That's not known yet (going by the tags there is going to be a good amount of NTR)
The sixth ending will be decided by the supporters...
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Recently, I finished reading through the current version of this kinetic novel, and have agonized on what to write in this post. My earlier drafts were quite extensive with both praise and critiques of several topics including grammar, plot foreshadowing, psychology (i.e., dominate-submissive relationships and power dynamics), the episodic "monster of the week" vibe, and much more. There is a lot of good stuff here and I applaud the Infidelisoft team, but, ultimately, I must also voice my concern on the direction of the MC just as several of my fellow Zoners already have.
Infidelisoft have already commented that this is a "mostly linear story centered around themes such as swinging, netorare, moral degeneration, and domination". I get that. I get that the story is mostly linear; nevertheless, perhaps this might be a good time to start introducing some deviations--some choices--and inject them into the story. I can safely say that most readers find several of the scenes with Fiona, regardless of her partner, pretty "hot". Despite that, I find myself enjoying the kinetic novel less and less the more I read of the unhealthy situations the MC finds himself in, and it's obvious I'm not the only one. None of the themes implies that things need to go badly for the MC. That is not stated explicitly by the project's team anywhere (that I can find).
There are already five endings planned and a sixth coming. The MC may not be the most important character in the story, but he is the primary character and its protagonist. It's not too late to allow different paths for the MC and adjust his fate to the reader's whims. Clearly, many of us likes what's currently happening to the MC and wishes things would progress significantly further; on the other hand, there is a growing camp of readers that does not like where things are heading. It's quite evident that there's at least two different paths on how the story can evolve, at least, in regards to the MC.
Respectfully, I sincerely hope that Infidelisoft allows us a choice and not lock us all onto a path and hamstring many users along the way through an unwanted story midway until we're finally given a choice near the end which determines the story's conclusion.
Infidelisoft have already commented that this is a "mostly linear story centered around themes such as swinging, netorare, moral degeneration, and domination". I get that. I get that the story is mostly linear; nevertheless, perhaps this might be a good time to start introducing some deviations--some choices--and inject them into the story. I can safely say that most readers find several of the scenes with Fiona, regardless of her partner, pretty "hot". Despite that, I find myself enjoying the kinetic novel less and less the more I read of the unhealthy situations the MC finds himself in, and it's obvious I'm not the only one. None of the themes implies that things need to go badly for the MC. That is not stated explicitly by the project's team anywhere (that I can find).
There are already five endings planned and a sixth coming. The MC may not be the most important character in the story, but he is the primary character and its protagonist. It's not too late to allow different paths for the MC and adjust his fate to the reader's whims. Clearly, many of us likes what's currently happening to the MC and wishes things would progress significantly further; on the other hand, there is a growing camp of readers that does not like where things are heading. It's quite evident that there's at least two different paths on how the story can evolve, at least, in regards to the MC.
Respectfully, I sincerely hope that Infidelisoft allows us a choice and not lock us all onto a path and hamstring many users along the way through an unwanted story midway until we're finally given a choice near the end which determines the story's conclusion.
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I like your well-thought out post. While I am in general a fan of the "spine" of the game done before getting down to the choices (since I have seen way too many games bog down with the choices and lose their way as the dev tries to cater to every taste) it does seem the game is close approaching a point where some decisions need to be made. There is another arc after this one which is unnamed, and after that, another arc which has been called "Epilogue". I think logically a week of the training might get done and then the next arc will be the one which introduces the choices. But yeah, now that we're getting to the end some choice points coming into play seems good.
Even if real choices are not in the training arc some hints that some will come up soon might help players who don't like the current path - like if there were a few different conversation (or thought) paths which lead to the same outcome but the player understands these mean something down the road, that might help.
I like your well-thought out post. While I am in general a fan of the "spine" of the game done before getting down to the choices (since I have seen way too many games bog down with the choices and lose their way as the dev tries to cater to every taste) it does seem the game is close approaching a point where some decisions need to be made. There is another arc after this one which is unnamed, and after that, another arc which has been called "Epilogue". I think logically a week of the training might get done and then the next arc will be the one which introduces the choices. But yeah, now that we're getting to the end some choice points coming into play seems good.
Even if real choices are not in the training arc some hints that some will come up soon might help players who don't like the current path - like if there were a few different conversation (or thought) paths which lead to the same outcome but the player understands these mean something down the road, that might help.
How come NTR does not imply bad stuff happening to the MC? NTR is about the MC feeling as shitty as posible (that most NTR games here don't do it well is another whole topic). With this game Infidelisoft has provided us with some of the best made NTR there is (even including several Japanese games).
Sure, it is not the cup of tea for most of the people, but such people is not the targeted audience.
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No one said it couldn't; and for the latter, no, that's not necessarily true.
NTR, or cuckoldry as Infidelisoft as put it, does not automatically mean that bad stuff has to happen to the MC. I just want to point out that fact. Many people do indeed think it's a requirement, but it isn't--there's several different, um, flavors, that netorare can come in. (See the various threads about it here and other forums, or by some posts in this very thread.) Heck, there's even a whole separate category of "
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In Swing & Miss, the plot revolves around themes such as "swinging, netorare (cuckolding), moral degeneration, and female domination", but the kinetic novel is now at the point or near the point, I believe, where different tangents of the story can now unfold. Introducing a few choices soon shouldn't bog down the kinetic novel. As @Retromancer have said, the game should be at a point where its story is established enough that bringing in choices shouldn't bog down its development. I just hope we don't have one or two choices just before the end--y'know, just dragging folks along for a ride until basically choosing which door to pick for an ending. There are many games like that where your choices doesn't really matter. I suppose it just bothers me, like other Zoners, about the current MC-Kyleigh relationship. It's just so... terrible; and not just for the MC, I think. I can see various ways on how things could grow or end. A healthy, trusting relationship requires honest communications, patience, realistic expectations, authenticity, and not to mention actually enjoying being in the relationship. Clearly, that's not the case for these two, yes? Remember, it's ultimately the submissive that has the power in such a relationship as he or she can choose to "end" it regardless of which form that may take.
Look, I don't want to take away what you (@nasam) or anyone else enjoy from these types of works. I respect that. Everyone has their likes and dislikes which doesn't have to jive with anyone else's, and that's cool. I don't want to get into an argument or have this thread switch over to a discussion away from Swing & Miss. Moderators should shut that down if it does. I am tired and those were just a couple examples off the top of my head; in spite of that, hopefully, I have expressed enough to a clarify a point--that NTR doesn't imply things must go badly for the MC. Alright, stay cool guys and gals! (Y'all are bunch of perverts, by the way, lol.)
Edit: Corrected the spelling of one word which significantly changed the tone of one paragraph, and added a sentence.