Retromancer

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Again, @Back comes in with a great post. I hate, absolutely hate, people coming into NTR games and trying to get the dev to make them into... not NTR games, especially if they don't pay. But the dev, as far as I can tell, has said that there will be choices from a ways back. So it is fair to ask for them and to wonder if the novel has progressed too far to make them meaningful or not. If the dev had said that it is strictly about NTR, the choices would be minor, etc. then no.

But I trust the dev on this. I think that there is clearly enough room to make the MC's and Kyleigh's relationship more consensual (just for example) that I'm not that worried about other paths being developed, and it's close enough to finishing I'm not that worried about it being abandoned either. I like the place the game is in right now.
 
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presario1000

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I really have enjoyed the storyline especially since my introduction to cuckolding came through what I thought was going to be a swinging situation; I got a mediocre hand job whilemy girlfriend got her brains fucked out. Still the latest update seems to be moving things way too fast at least with the MC being locked in chastity. I obviously understand in a VN/Game things move faster, and in different ways in real life for a variety of reasons. The big thing with chastity, is usually it's the man asking his girlfriend to be locked up, but I get for story reasons that the girl locking the guy up is much more erotic tot he people who enjoy the fetish. Still I feel like the MC goes into chastity way too willingly and easily, for someone who just had it sprung on him cold turkey.

I think a good way to fix this without changing the story too much, or adding too many scenes would be having Kyleigh tease the MC but deny him at the last minute saying she wants to wait till the end of the week to have sex to make it more passionate erotic, just to build up the tension whatever, and get the MC to agree. Then also get the MC to promise not to masturbate and to save all his cum for her for this planned wild sex session. Then after the second day of teasing the MC goes to the bathroom to secretly masturbate, and is caught either before or after orgasm, and told to put the chastity device on, or go to a motel for the rest of the week and never have sex with her again.

I think this "punishment route" will also more naturally lead to further femdom interactions that seem to be in the pipeline.
 

darkWolf.01

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In case anyone wants - skunked version - 0.27.2 (dont have access to other filehosts):

 

Infidelisoft

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Then why does Ren'Py automatically create a .rar archive for the Mac version as well? Would a different archive format like .zip work on Mac?

Update: Oh wait, I'm converting the archive to a .rar when adding the password. I'll see what I can do about it.
 
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User_75033

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Then why does Ren'Py automatically create a .rar archive for the Mac version as well? Would a different archive format like .zip work on Mac?

Update: Oh wait, I'm converting the archive to a .rar when adding the password. I'll see what I can do about it.
.Zip works Best for Macs
 

Callandor

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May I ask someone for a full run-down of how the story has progressed so far. I like the NTR so far, but will probably only progress further if there's a status-quo ending, with Fiona and MC remaining together.
 

Back

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May I ask someone for a full run-down of how the story has progressed so far. I like the NTR so far, but will probably only progress further if there's a status-quo ending, with Fiona and MC remaining together.
Probably something like , or other similar mangas. What's in the game now is essentially the first half of this manga with very little deviation except that the game has a little more build up and the MC is Davis's boss.
 

tevetevenet

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So the sixth ending poll has finished with the winner (by a fair margin) being "Fiona becomes a prostitute". I guess that means there'll be no good outcome for the protagonist then, unless he actually enjoys being cucked/distant second in both womens' eyes, which if so is hugely disappointing. Personally I would have liked the best possible outcome of cucking Davis; perhaps you could have trained with Kyleigh to outperform him regardless of size difference (stamina training/skill/more willing to try kinks perhaps Davis might not).

I obviously understand that this is a NTR game and it is expected that most or all ending would be "bad ends" and that the voters would gravitate toward that sort of thing. However, I believe there ought to be some ending where the MC unclouds his thoughts and stands up for himself somehow. As we've seen so far through his thoughts he is (relatively) sane for this genre; he just finds himself unable to stand up to the other couple or talk his wife out of anything he clearly finds uncomfortable.

Could we really not have the ability in the end game to fire Davis (on at least one occasion thus far he fobbed his work off onto us, outside of work hours at that)? Could we maybe have the MC hear Fiona talking down her husband in comparison to Davis and declare unilaterally to end the whole thing? After all, the very first condition laid down was if anyone is upset they can stop the whole thing. Maybe we could even have the option to divorce Fiona and cut our losses that way, even if not financially, and still get rid of Davis from the company or move town and work somewhere else (if we are managerial level this isn't outside the realm of realism). She obviously at this point considers Davis equal or greater than us on a relationship level in general with how far she goes to please him, believing his blatant lies of "your husband told me you/he would like this" or just straight up going along with his suggestions because he wants it.

Even the ending of mutually ending the swinging and returning to normal life (presumably with the protagonist having retained any ability gained during the period) was near dead-last in the poll. So the best he can hope for is that the women throw him a bone when Davis isn't fucking them. Ultimately every ending seems like a losing one; even Starless of all games had at least two "good" endings after going through hell, for what that's worth. It feels somewhat fruitless for those that may want something more "normal" that we'll play through for hours only to have nothing but "pick-the-way-in-which-you-are-a-loser" endings. Davis clearly has disdain for the MC and outright acts like a prick, sometimes even in your face; why can't there be any comeuppance or at least something neutral where you end any interpersonal relationships with the couple and focus on your own marriage?

I don't hate the game so far, far from it. I'm not necessarily angry that we get a prostitute ending, I'd actually like to see it; just upset that with that being the final ending there's no vanilla end. I'll still play and see what comes of it all and check out all the endings. It's just that it feels we as the protagonist have no agency and are rail-roaded towards failure, regardless of choice.

I really hope there will be a consideration of a seventh (or more) ending and even more so that we get at least one guaranteed "good"/non-cuck/outright coming out on top of Davis end.
 

Katzies

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Well, what are the other five endings? It seems weird to just have only 'bad' endings.

Do people play cuckold games for the good end? Like, "and they happily lived ever after (without any strange cock)"? That seems like not exactly like a top attraction to these types of games.

That said, I would not consider that prostitute ending necessarily bad. There's at least some part of people into corruption/degradation/degeneracy without the added kick in the 'nads of: "The Main character is a pathetic loser, she kicks him out of the house, and takes the money, the house and the dog too."(Oftentimes, that just seems boring and/or mean.) Could be something like: "The Main Character ends up pimping his wife himself." or "The wife becomes a prostitute but still remains with the MC because they're in love and he likes the fact that others pay what he gets for free."

Sure, there could be some other bad twists like: "Fiona stays with him, but he has to pay to have sex with her like all other people, cause she's fair like that." or "She's so tired from being a prostitute that she doesn't have sex with the MC anymore since she gets all she needs from strange cock."

Point is, I would not necessarily write off a 'prostitute' ending as completely 'bad end' but rather... an end. All depends on how it's written or what the patrons want. And whining over here is unlikely to change much .:p

Guess if anyone is really invested in this, they can pledge and try to reach the 'alternate route' stretch goal, which could end up with a bunch of other different endings.

That said, seeing where the votes ended up....It's unlikely that a unequivocal 'good end' is the main draw of those patrons.
 
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Infidelisoft

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I haven't revealed what the first five endings are. There's an ending (with a choice for it coming up fairly soon) that comes close to some of the things you are describing. I would describe it as "a good ending with a somewhat bitter aftertaste" without spoiling too much.

I can always add a sappy happy ending without a (unique) CG set earlier in the game, I wouldn't really count that as a seventh ending that needs a lot of investment. Adding it later on would be a bit more difficult considering all that's happened, especially since I want to avoid drama. There's several Western "netorare/cuckold" projects where there's plenty of twists and drama, which is more realistic since there would be drama in real life, but I want this to be porn.

The project is also slowly approaching its final phase. There was a mistake in the last version denoting the current last chapter as the 5th, but it's actually the 6th Day of Training. There's a seventh day, and then another "arc" which leads into the 6 different epilogues. This arc is long so it will take some time to complete, but the time for me to think about how to continue or discontinue the Patreon/SubscribeStar is approaching as well. I don't want to "milk" this project forever, there will be a point where I close options for expansion to Swing & Miss so it can be wrapped up.
 

shinmix

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Started off slowly than picked up its pace. There is little choice since this is more of a comic than a game. But the story kept me hook until it ended suddenly at the foot massage scene. Can't wait to see what happens next. While I like NTR genre I am not into femdom. But its tolerable. It will be interesting to see what will happen to Fiona, if she will become a permanent wife of Davis.
 
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Callandor

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Jul 13, 2017
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Oh damn, the dev (devs?) is here. Yeah, the game is really good, but I know I'll just be depressed if it ends with the MC getting entirely screwed over in every viable ending. The option of getting at least one relatively good ending for the MC would give me the drive to get through it. With the poll, are you planning on adding all the endings that are able to voted for, or only a few of them?
Would love to see you make more games of the genre soon, thank you for your work.
 

Infidelisoft

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Only the winner of the poll will be added as the sixth ending, but there's five endings which were already planned and will be in there which have not been mentioned in the poll at all.
 
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Callandor

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Sorry, I worded that badly. I meant; will each ending be featured eventually, with the order decided by poll, or is there only the 6 or so endings total.
 

Daken9

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Man, the MC in this is the fattest wimp :ROFLMAO:

Maybe this isn't quite the right mix of fetishes for me, but i would have liked the story more if Davis could get to feel the NTR too. Like, make his (Davis) wife get attached to the MC in a more romantic way (opposite to Davis and Fiona) or just have the MC get less s-s-s-s-s-scared like Fiona did. As it is i had to play some PL to offset the wimpiness :p
 
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