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4ung-4ang

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When the sad reality hits you that most of the people around not hating on Kirito still only give a shit about Kirito and Asuna but not the others XD (seriously, as part of it for almost a decade, the actual SAO fandom can be as sad/bad as the haters on its bias :p)
I mean, I'm not too involved for the most part. Even if Suguha's story turns out not to go the direction I personally would appreciate, in the end, it's okay. I just like her unexpected development in Part 2, especially that it also goes as far as she herself turning the tables, not relying on the MC or another man to rescue her, as is often the case. So it would be a waste of potentially telling an original side story in my eyes.
 
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I mean, I'm not too involved for the most part. Even if Suguha's story turns out not to go the direction I personally would appreciate, in the end, it's okay. I just like her unexpected development in Part 2, especially that it also goes as far as she herself turning the tables, not relying on the MC or another man to rescue her, as is often the case. So it would be a waste of potentially telling an original side story in my eyes.
Well, as you know I AM invested, but ironically that's not even the part I care or mind about, just the whole uniqueness of Suguha, of all people, being the one who twists the NTR Tropes on their heads when that's normally 'impossible' in such a setting. I personally like it a lot not only 'cause she's my favorite character or because I ship KiriSugu, but because how often she's overlooked in fanworks on top of Canon, she kinda IS the most driven non-Asuna girl of the bunch and legit the one closest to Kirito after her, but practically nobody acknowledges it, and even the author constantly sidelined her in favor of the more popular other main heroines after her arc was over, so seeing her do the 'impossible' here while also seemingly getting what she really wants despite the 'rules of the NTRverse' is great :p
 

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I gotta say, it's refreshing to see an adequate rating. I agree with King; you should leave it as an actual rating because many people just go to extremes, like 'everything sucks' 1-star or 'I hate Kirito' 5-stars. :sneaky:
Tsk, people are just so unreflective...

On a side note: HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE SUGUHA'S STORY IN PART 2? :LOL:
Eh, just not a fan of the rest of the SAO cast bar Liz just being like "Whelp with no Kirito, guess we just become sluts basically" just in different ways. So literally just Suguha with her liking kirito but also works at brothel, not much to digest on. I mean out of all the side girls she's the best Sinon being the worst, but still I'm not personally invested, props to anyone who does though. But also, hot as fuck scenes so disregard all the stuff above tbh
 
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Eh, just not a fan of the rest of the SAO cast bar Liz just being like "Whelp with no Kirito, guess we just become sluts basically" just in different ways. So literally just Suguha with her liking kirito but also works at brothel, not much to digest on. I mean out of all the side girls she's the best Sinon being the worst, but still I'm not personally invested, props to anyone who does though. But also, hot as fuck scenes so disregard all the stuff above tbh
I mean, to be fair, Liz is basically being set up like that but just way worse, because she's gonna end up completely reversed under INODA and with no agency at all after betraying her friends for her own selfishness XD If anything, SUGUHA is the one with the most 'interesting' plot in that aspect, reminder that she full-on reversed her own impossible-to-escape-NTR-cliche-situation, and she's actually used the brothel thing to fully escape Hebishima's clutches (Plus while it's still working under the dumb-logic of Fujino's universe that "doing these things in VR don't count unlike IRL", it was basically stated she both picked her clients and never went beyond minor service somehow, lol). Liz is just trying and failing to be an evil mastermind while flip-flopping between being a 'friend' and a jealous bitch willing to help an ugly bastard steal her best friend just so she can in turns steal her boyfriend, and the only reason neither Kirito nor Asuna have realized is because Fujino has cut their IQ to less than a tenth of what they would usually be XP
 
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I mean, to be fair, Liz is basically being set up like that but just way worse, because she's gonna end up completely reversed under INODA and with no agency at all after betraying her friends for her own selfishness XD If anything, SUGUHA is the one with the most 'interesting' plot in that aspect, reminder that she full-on reversed her own impossible-to-escape-NTR-cliche-situation, and she's actually used the brothel thing to fully escape Hebishima's clutches (Plus while it's still working under the dumb-logic of Fujino's universe that "doing these things in VR don't count unlike IRL", it was basically stated she both picked her clients and never went beyond minor service somehow, lol). Liz is just trying and failing to be an evil mastermind while flip-flopping between being a 'friend' and a jealous bitch willing to help an ugly bastard steal her best friend just so she can in turns steal her boyfriend, and the only reason neither Kirito nor Asuna have realized is because Fujino has cut their IQ to less than a tenth of what they would usually be XP
I mean, "VR not being real" is very different in Suguhas case, for her it's just a tool she uses to her own benefit, she's fully aware what and why she's doing it. In her case it's true, it's not real prostitution. Asuna on the other side got manipulated to this, which directly pushes her more towards Inoda.
 
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I mean, "VR not being real" is very different in Suguhas case, for her it's just a tool she uses to her own benefit, she's fully aware what and why she's doing it. In her case it's true, it's not real prostitution. Asuna on the other side got manipulated to this, which directly pushes her more towards Inoda.
Sorry if I didn't explain myself correctly, I was talking about how weak/BS that excuse feels when used in an SAO game and applied to the SAO cast, because one key point of all of their characters through the entire series, and of the series itself really, is how everything that happens in VR is just as real and valid as the real world XD Maybe for people who don't know or care about SAO is easier to handwave, but if you know it even vaguely it just feels like the most forced part of the whole NTR-verse plot, that's all :3
 

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NOT looking for what is rational and correct in an NTR game is like asking an orange tree for a pear, everyone makes mistakes that for the rest of us will seem stupid as simple as that, although FUJINO has ALWAYS dedicated itself to at least giving you an idea and context of the game. because it came to that and he does it well, and about liz we already know how she will end up disappointed in cuckito and will end up with one more bitch from inoda, I think the administrator will end up the same somehow inoda will get to her
 
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Sorry if I didn't explain myself correctly, I was talking about how weak/BS that excuse feels when used in an SAO game and applied to the SAO cast, because one key point of all of their characters through the entire series, and of the series itself really, is how everything that happens in VR is just as real and valid as the real world XD Maybe for people who don't know or care about SAO is easier to handwave, but if you know it even vaguely it just feels like the most forced part of the whole NTR-verse plot, that's all :3
Ah the curse of knowing what should happen. I don't think these characters here ever expressed "VR is as real as the real world" mentality but we all assume they would. Knowing so much about the characters really does not enhance the experience. If this game was set in the proper canon, I imagine Kirito would be rocking Asuna's sugary world and Yui would not let Inoda anywhere near Asuna.
 
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Ah the curse of knowing what should happen. I don't think these characters here ever expressed "VR is as real as the real world" mentality but we all assume they would. Knowing so much about the characters really does not enhance the experience. If this game was set in the proper canon, I imagine Kirito would be rocking Asuna's sugary world and Yui would not let Inoda anywhere near Asuna.
If it was the proper Canon, FOG wouldn't even exist, or at least not as it is right now, so Inoda would have never been able to do the shit he did to Asuna thorough part 1 even before accounting for Yui being around, so yeah, probably :3 But as we have established, it's kinda pointless to try and find accurate logic to a NTR game, I was mostly pointing out why Liz wasn't honestly all that amazing in here, I unironically dislike her and she's not at the lowest in this game for me because OC Police girl Alice exists. Everyone else, NTR plot aside, started out as a victim/tricked one way or another, while she's gonna end up as one of Inoda's bitches because of her own selfishness XD
 
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If it was the proper Canon, FOG wouldn't even exist, or at least not as it is right now, so Inoda would have never been able to do the shit he did to Asuna thorough part 1 even before accounting for Yui being around, so yeah, probably :3 But as we have established, it's kinda pointless to try and find accurate logic to a NTR game, I was mostly pointing out why Liz wasn't honestly all that amazing in here, I unironically dislike her and she's not at the lowest in this game for me because OC Police girl Alice exists. Everyone else, NTR plot aside, started out as a victim/tricked one way or another, while she's gonna end up as one of Inoda's bitches because of her own selfishness XD
Before this update I could say Inoda is a victim of Administrator's games too. But now it seems like she will be one of Inoda's bitches too, she would be at the same level as Liz. Quite the insult and fall from grace.
 

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Before this update I could say Inoda is a victim of Administrator's games too. But now it seems like she will be one of Inoda's bitches too, she would be at the same level as Liz. Quite the insult and fall from grace.
If that's the case, then that's officially the last straw, with any remaining sense gone for good. :LOL:
 

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If that's the case, then that's officially the last straw, with any remaining sense gone for good. :LOL:
To be 100% 'fair', we don't really know if Administrator is solely responsible for Inoda's success even back in Part 1, Fujino including her in the plot and making her so heavily involved in the real world has just led to that retroactive conclusion ironically, and she at the very least is 100% completely aware of everything. It wouldn't be so much as her "accidentally becoming one of Inoda's bitches" as more like she would willingly want to, she at the very least blushed and called Inoda "interesting" when telling Kirito about him (Without using his name), so we know at least that she's attracted to him, I wouldn't call it even remotely the same as Liz at all, at least not right now XP
 

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To be 100% 'fair', we don't really know if Administrator is solely responsible for Inoda's success even back in Part 1, Fujino including her in the plot and making her so heavily involved in the real world has just led to that retroactive conclusion ironically, and she at the very least is 100% completely aware of everything. It wouldn't be so much as her "accidentally becoming one of Inoda's bitches" as more like she would willingly want to, she at the very least blushed and called Inoda "interesting" when telling Kirito about him (Without using his name), so we know at least that she's attracted to him, I wouldn't call it even remotely the same as Liz at all, at least not right now XP
Yeah, that's the point, a literal goddess which could have everything or everyone chooses fatso, really? By that logic Inoda is even a higher being than her, a titan among gods, so every human should just jump straight on his magic stick. Whats the point in the whole story, just let him fuck the world :ROFLMAO:

Tbh, as the story unfolds I start to think that Inoda should've been the MC, as his story so far seems to be ironicaly the typical "hero" journey. He started as a noname, but is most likely gonna end up banging even goddess in the end. As for Kirito, well he has no developement. :unsure:
 
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Yeah, that's the point, a literal goddess which could have everything or everyone chooses fatso, really? By that logic Inoda is even a higher being than her, a titan among gods, so every human should just jump straight on his magic stick. Whats the point in the whole story, just let him fuck the world :ROFLMAO:

Tbh, as the story unfolds I start to think that Inoda should've been the MC, as his story so far seems to be ironicaly the typical "hero" journey. He started as a noname, but is most likely gonna end up banging even goddess in the end. As for Kirito, well he has no developement. :unsure:
I mean, for all intent and purposes, he IS the REAL MC, we're just controlling the side-character in his story of 'success' XP
 
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