RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.40] [Fujino]

[SixDates]

I think that the most logical and efficient way to make a branching game with the tools Fujino has, would be to make a single path of sexual events viewed with different perspectives.

What do I mean by that?

The not-cuckold Kirito goes through his daily life as he does now, only catching glimpses and tid bits of the sexual depravity that goes around him, and in the cuckold route Fujino uses the same scenes, but we get to see them through Kirito spying on Inoda and his thoughts about it.
Essentially, instead of going to the recollection room to see the sex scenes through inoda's and Asuna's PoV, we also get them in a voyeuristic style with Kirito jerking his little D.

I know that everyone would prefer that got more events in each path/ending, but I just don't think Fujino can manage with his currently japanese salaryman lifestyle.

 

[4ung-4ang]

I think that the most logical and efficient way to make a branching game with the tools Fujino has, would be to make a single path of sexual events viewed with different perspectives.

What do I mean by that?

The not-cuckold Kirito goes through his daily life as he does now, only catching glimpses and tid bits of the sexual depravity that goes around him, and in the cuckold route Fujino uses the same scenes, but we get to see them through Kirito spying on Inoda and his thoughts about it.
Essentially, instead of going to the recollection room to see the sex scenes through inoda's and Asuna's PoV, we also get them in a voyeuristic style with Kirito jerking his little D.

I know that everyone would prefer that got more events in each path/ending, but I just don't think Fujino can manage with his currently japanese salaryman lifestyle.

I mean, it is possible, but there is still the issue with monthly updates. He would be forced to create separate saves for each update, dealing with two branches. This would mean doubling the time spent testing each of them for every update. So, realistically, most of us are probably fine with just having different endings, so it's just not worth the effort.

 

[NiktoAzure]

I think it's a weak choice simply because the MC doesn't chase any of the girls and it's not really romantic at all. I'd rather see MC get NTR'd who "deserve" it for all the will they won't they relationship shit authors like to pull. Second place is destroying a "good" relationship like with asuna/kirito.

Well...in general, yes. It’s just that they want Nagatoro and Komi, who are also a little unsuitable.

I think the best option is this.
Mushoku Tensei - Rudus loves Sylph, and even had sex. And there is also a harem, so in general you can create a straight NTR and destruction attitude.
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Strak and Fern, why Fieren and Himmel. When there is Star and Fern, Fern loves Stark, and Stark is stupid, but also loves. In general, you can also make an NTR moment)))

There are also beautiful girls in both. ))
Nagatoro is also a good option, but Kagura is also a great option.

 

[saitamaTM]

Well...in general, yes. It’s just that they want Nagatoro and Komi, who are also a little unsuitable.

I think the best option is this.
Mushoku Tensei - Rudus loves Sylph, and even had sex. And there is also a harem, so in general you can create a straight NTR and destruction attitude.
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Strak and Fern, why Fieren and Himmel. When there is Star and Fern, Fern loves Stark, and Stark is stupid, but also loves. In general, you can also make an NTR moment)))

There are also beautiful girls in both. ))
Nagatoro is also a good option, but Kagura is also a great option.

mushoku tensei is good for ntr game, nagatoro is weird for me

 

[SixDates]

I mean, it is possible, but there is still the issue with monthly updates. He would be forced to create separate saves for each update, dealing with two branches. This would mean doubling the time spent testing each of them for every update. So, realistically, most of us are probably fine with just having different endings, so it's just not worth the effort.

The thing is, beyond cost-efficency of what would please the fans more with the least unnecessary effort, we have to take into consideration what is it that Fujino wants to do.
Branching paths might be way too difficult for him to do right now, and perhaps it might be a bad idea objectively, but Fujino might want to give it a try.
SAO is completly different to his other games, with him seemingly wanting to challenge himself with a more complex game.

All that yapping to say, "Who knows what Fujino will do, I'm fine either way honestly."

 

[albakr0ss]

Ironically, Kirito's and Inoda's relationship is actually quite natural (putting NTR logic aside). In real life, it's normal for a couple to have friends that the other partner doesn't necessarily care about. So, you might spend time together if needed, or just let them meet separately. That's how I see their relationship. Asuna seems to like Inoda as a friend, so Kirito just goes along with it, and he also doesn't see Inoda as a potential threat for various reasons, but mostly because of not being able to build up suspicion. From a developer's perspective, it opens up space for more interactions between Asuna and Inoda.

As for boosting Inoda's power over Kirito, I mean, yeah, from Inoda's POV maybe, but as a player, we know that since the introduction of the Admin, it's all thanks to her because of how game-breaking deleting Kirito's suspicion every day actually is. I still think that's the most immersion-destroying tool, period. That was the final straw for me to let it go completely, because it turned the main plot into a predetermined slideshow without any tension and character development.

I personally don’t like how much influence the admin currently has since it does make the whole story feel a bit pointless since they pretty much dictate where the story goes. That’s why I want Inoda to have more control later on, sure he gets some help to jump start over the big initial hurdles but we really need to feel like everything is just inherently convenient. Inoda making a move on Asuna knowing Liz was running interference made sense. Inoda getting a handjob from her in the gym because Kirito was busy with other things didn’t. I’d just like to think that aside from Asuna bending over (literally and figuratively) for Inoda he needs to go from “I can’t be caught by Kirito or else” to “it doesn’t matter if he catches me or not” since that’s I think the development we need for him to seem like he’s genuinely stealing her away from him.

 

[NiktoAzure]

mushoku tensei is good for ntr game, nagatoro is weird for me

Well, Senpai loves Nagatoro, Nagatoro bullies Senpai. In general, NTRS can do more here.
But Nagatoro is the best option, and in anime the girls are beautiful and sexy, and there is a large selection.

 

[4ung-4ang]

Well...in general, yes. It’s just that they want Nagatoro and Komi, who are also a little unsuitable.

I think the best option is this.
Mushoku Tensei - Rudus loves Sylph, and even had sex. And there is also a harem, so in general you can create a straight NTR and destruction attitude.
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End - Strak and Fern, why Fieren and Himmel. When there is Star and Fern, Fern loves Stark, and Stark is stupid, but also loves. In general, you can also make an NTR moment)))

There are also beautiful girls in both. ))
Nagatoro is also a good option, but Kagura is also a great option.

Fern and Stark are not in love; they are fond of each other at most. There is potential for the future, but I think it's just too early for parodies. We don't even know how the whole story will play out; one or both could even die by the end. Who knows?

But Rudeus is the perfect candidate to be NTRed.

 

[albakr0ss]

I think that the most logical and efficient way to make a branching game with the tools Fujino has, would be to make a single path of sexual events viewed with different perspectives.

What do I mean by that?

The not-cuckold Kirito goes through his daily life as he does now, only catching glimpses and tid bits of the sexual depravity that goes around him, and in the cuckold route Fujino uses the same scenes, but we get to see them through Kirito spying on Inoda and his thoughts about it.
Essentially, instead of going to the recollection room to see the sex scenes through inoda's and Asuna's PoV, we also get them in a voyeuristic style with Kirito jerking his little D.

I know that everyone would prefer that got more events in each path/ending, but I just don't think Fujino can manage with his currently japanese salaryman lifestyle.

Isn’t this how the first game was made? You had a choice of either peeping or not and even if you did you’d only see the silhouette of what was happening.

 

[kinglionheart]

I personally don’t like how much influence the admin currently has since it does make the whole story feel a bit pointless since they pretty much dictate where the story goes. That’s why I want Inoda to have more control later on, sure he gets some help to jump start over the big initial hurdles but we really need to feel like everything is just inherently convenient. Inoda making a move on Asuna knowing Liz was running interference made sense. Inoda getting a handjob from her in the gym because Kirito was busy with other things didn’t. I’d just like to think that aside from Asuna bending over (literally and figuratively) for Inoda he needs to go from “I can’t be caught by Kirito or else” to “it doesn’t matter if he catches me or not” since that’s I think the development we need for him to seem like he’s genuinely stealing her away from him.

The Asuna corruption we all want to see if she going from "I have to do it" to "I want to do it". Inoda can't be a baby forever and let mommy Administrator solved all his problems for him.

 

[4ung-4ang]

Nagatoro is a interesting choice because it is so niche. On the one hand, there is barely any parodies of it making it prime unexplored territory. On the other, the "bully love interest" subgenre is so niche that I doubt many would find it appealing.

I think NTR isn't the right genre here. I'd argue that revenge from the MC would be more fun. Like, at some point, the dude just breaks under her pressure and lets his inner perverted self take over. But as a smart dude, he would start it slow, like drawing her in embarrassing poses to begin with.

 

[SixDates]

Nagatoro is a interesting choice because it is so niche. On the one hand, there is barely any parodies of it making it prime unexplored territory. On the other, the "bully love interest" subgenre is so niche that I doubt many would find it appealing.

Is it all that niche? Beyond the fact that Nagatoro is a wildly popular rom-com, with a successful anime adaptation. I would say that there is a big overlap from those who enjoy NTR and a bully-girlfriend manga.
At the very least in the west, 9 out 10 NTR stories involve a bully of some sort.

Isn’t this how the first game was made? You had a choice of either peeping or not and even if you did you’d only see the silhouette of what was happening.

In the first game you could see a few tid bits here and there, what I was arguing is that a cuckold Kirito would be seeing them in full view with a knowledgeable of what was happening, while the not-cuckold Kirito would continue as he did in part 1.

I think NTR isn't the right genre here. I'd argue that revenge from the MC would be more fun. Like, at some point, the dude just breaks under her pressure and lets his inner perverted self take over. But as a smart dude, he would start it slow, like drawing her in embarrassing poses to begin with.

Actually, I believe a NTR game from Fujino where the heroine (Nagatoro) is stolen by a literal bully of the mc could work, if Fujino moved away from the always ignorant protagonist and actually made him suffer from an antagonist character.

 

[4ung-4ang]

The Asuna corruption we all want to see if she going from "I have to do it" to "I want to do it". Inoda can't be a baby forever and let mommy Administrator solved all his problems for him.

Maybe the admin will stop deleting his emotions at some point. If that's the case, it should happen very soon; there is no point in waiting until she has practically fallen. tbh, it's probably too late already

 

[SixDates]

This has nothing to do with the topics at hand, but whenever the sex will move to real life, I believe this would actually fit really well with how Fujino (If Inoda is holding the phone instead of Asuna) writes scenes.

Inoda would love to do this type of stuff.

 

[albakr0ss]

I’m surprise in terms of future NTR parodies, high school dxd/ to love ru/ or even more recently chained soldier aren’t brought up. Chained soldier in particular seems like the premise alone is perfect. Imagine the MCs kink was lowkey being NTRd so anyone who used him would have to do it with someone despicable in the corp other than him.

 

[4ung-4ang]

Actually, I believe a NTR game from Fujino where the heroine (Nagatoro) is stolen by a literal bully of the mc could work, if Fujino moved away from the always ignorant protagonist and actually made him suffer from an antagonist character.

There is only one issue, there is no magic, not sure Fujino can make it work without

 

[albakr0ss]

The Asuna corruption we all want to see if she going from "I have to do it" to "I want to do it". Inoda can't be a baby forever and let mommy Administrator solved all his problems for him.

Pretty much yeah. He has to convince her that it’s not just “fuck him because he needs it” to “I want to fuck him” all the way until “I need to fuck him”. But Inoda has to make Asuna realize that on her own ideally without having to constantly relying on charms, curses, poisons, or whatnot. That way it’ll feel more natural and earned story wise.

 

[Sieglinnde]

Nagatoro is still very niche. The best proof of that is how little parodies of it you can find. Think of the other choices mentioned here and many doujin or games made about it compared to Nagatoro.

i haven't watched nagatoro but if I did and if I liked the anime maybe I could do an NTR game about it

 

[kinglionheart]

Pretty much yeah. He has to convince her that it’s not just “fuck him because he needs it” to “I want to fuck him” all the way until “I need to fuck him”. But Inoda has to make Asuna realize that on her own ideally without having to constantly relying on charms, curses, poisons, or whatnot. That way it’ll feel more natural and earned story wise.

That was exactly how I felt before Administrator was introduced. But with her I am just accepted her interference for the sake of progession.

 

[SixDates]

Nagatoro is still very niche. The best proof of that is how little parodies of it you can find. Think of the other choices mentioned here and many doujin or games made about it compared to Nagatoro.

Also if Fujino made a game about a literal bully taking Nagatoro away then it would the standard plot for almost every NTR work out there. At least SAO had the interesting feature of a online world. Nagatoro NTR would no distinct feature.

I actually wasn't even arguing in favor of a Nagatoro game, since I think there are many other better choices (Even if I disagree with some of the ones being thrown around like Jobless Reincarnation) (Although I do find tanned girls like Nagatoro quite hot in hentai settings).
I just wanted to say that a NTR game and a "Bully" theme usually go hand in hand with one another.