RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.551] [Fujino]

[4-kun]

You look around at people's opinions. We see:
- Portioned content, but looking back, after 4 months we see wasted 17 hours of gameplay in which several times repeated dialog and the same motives.
- There are so many secondary stories that the main story just fades and gets lost on their background.
- Inoda is no longer an independent character, so much so that he is used as a puppet by everyone from Asuna's friend to God.
- There is virtually no content related to direct NTR in the world. Only in the dream world.
- And of the content in the NTR game we have 1 harassment scene during the fight with a tree, 1 Hjob scene because the heroine was told a dirty joke and had her leg massaged, cool…

We don't mind the slower pace of the story, after all we need to make a new foundation for the characters after the events of the first part. We don't want to press 1 button and get Ero. We want the balance of the story. Let me remind you that the first part lasted only 7~8 hours, which in such a short time managed to tell a lot of events both major and minor. Where the hero could find scenes with Ero in the world acting as extra content. Where the heroes developed in FOG and inoda really was sly and pressed for pity, but not in this installment.

I understand that Fujino wants to make a large-scale game, but in my personal opinion, he went the wrong way. We're already a quarter of the way through the game, almost 20 hours have been spent, which is literally 2.5 times more compared to the last part, and Asuna has only FORGIVEN Inoda for that night. Inoda has ceased to be cunning, he is exclusively kicked in order for him to do some action in the direction of Asuna, while not being able to do anything, even God helped him so that he could give a banal massage. And Kirito simply disappeared from this triangle, in the first part he was constantly distracted from Asuna, which Inoda took advantage of and spent time with her, Inoda literally forced her to come to his house almost every evening, having come up with a good excuse for this. In the first part, Kirito was not with her because he was constantly asked to help people, work, etc., and in the second part, he is not with her because Asuna's mother said so...
As a result, we get neither fish nor meat. We spend ~20 hours of our lives reading a novel, with a lot of dialogue, seeing a lot of additional content that literally breaks in in the middle of the main story, and then at the end of the day we go into the dream world to simply get the main ero content and events important to the plot. Personally, in my opinion, this is not normal, just like in an NTR game to make more vanilla content in the main story, I already know that they are in a romantic relationship, I don’t have to remind you how much they love each other several times, especially when delaying the approach of NTR events. I want a balance of stories, but so far I only get graphomania and micro scenes of Ero as a reward. Understanding the current path and pace of development, in the best case we will see the finale at the end of the year, and the game time will exceed 100+ hours.

I understand that people are upset about the game's length. If you take a step back and consider that we are 2/3 into the game as a whole, but there is still so much content to come. It's objectively questionable how it's going to be squeezed into the last 1/3. Will it still look authentic, or will it feel extremely rushed, making the entire buildup a waste? I mean if all that build up plays out, the fall of Asuna will be pretty darn quick.

Or could there be yet not revealed plans for a 3rd part?

 

[Rubyrosesilver22]

I understand that people are upset about the game's length. If you take a step back and consider that we are 2/3 into the game as a whole, but there is still so much content to come. It's objectively questionable how it's going to be squeezed into the last 1/3. Will it still look authentic, or will it feel extremely rushed, making the entire buildup a waste? I mean if all that build up plays out, the fall of Asuna will be pretty darn quick.

Or could there be yet not revealed plans for a 3rd part?

Will there be a part 3?

 

[4-kun]

Will there be a part 3?

I don't think so, but then again, there were also no plans for a part 2 back in the day

 

[pnkrel]

I understand that people are upset about the game's length. If you take a step back and consider that we are 2/3 into the game as a whole, but there is still so much content to come. It's objectively questionable how it's going to be squeezed into the last 1/3. Will it still look authentic, or will it feel extremely rushed, making the entire buildup a waste? I mean if all that build up plays out, the fall of Asuna will be pretty darn quick.

Or could there be yet not revealed plans for a 3rd part?

Has fujino said anything about length of the game?

 

[4-kun]

Has fujino said anything about length of the game?

No, I'm just counting roughly. The first part is 50%, and with part 2, which is finished up to 1/4, the overall completion of the entire game is approximately 2/3.

PS: I know, part 2 is on bigger scale

 

[icyair]

This update had Inoda trying to gain Asuna trust again i like but remember this help coming from liz in dark twisted way she try to become his wingman so she make Asuna his while she trying to get Kirito but that plan will backfire on her the will probably intense scenes between Inoda and Asuna that will escalate because of him or liz help but at the same liz and inoda will have there own intense moments but remember liz is trying to get kirito

no offensive friend, but reading such comments I realize that fujino has gone in a completely different direction with his game.
Let's take different ntr games like Nebel Geisterjager, Battle Armor Sorgante, NTR Z, NTR Knight, Engraved Pleasure.
These are just the ones I can remember right now. What's the trust between the antagonist and the heroine? Trust in what? Where's the NTR in that trust? what this trust is, how it will help with seduction and corruption. Trust doesn't cancel out Asuna and Kirito's love, so why should she trust Inoda to have sex with him?

These and other games play on the desire of the body, on sexual pleasure. Like the whole NTR genre in general. And the NTR genre works with big assumptions, because in reality it doesn't happen like that.

From the latest update I have a hard time seeing how Fujino will climb out on the NTR path, things have gotten too confusing and massive.

The battle with the tree and the massage was supposed to be the turning point where Inoda would focus on Asuna's carnal desires, but instead we have almost best friends.
How to make an NTR out of this I have no idea, the next update will either fix this situation or make things worse.

The most logical way I can see is to remake this update and make the massage the starting point to put more pressure on Asuna's sexual desires

 

[kinglionheart]

Has fujino said anything about length of the game?

While Fujino has never said how long the game will be you can search for the datamined Perks list someone posted here. I would not though. It heavily spoils what Asuna's progression will be and what Inoda's endgame is. This shows Fujino does have a roadmap and ending in mind when he started making Part 2. How long it will take to reach that ending will depend on his supporters' reactions and behavior, Fujino's own willpower with dealing with negative reactions, how much scenes he want to put into the game, how much action the side characters will get, and many more variables.

Hopefully it would not split into Part 3 but it is possible.

 

[kinglionheart]

no offensive friend, but reading such comments I realize that fujino has gone in a completely different direction with his game.
Let's take different ntr games like Nebel Geisterjager, Battle Armor Sorgante, NTR Z, NTR Knight, Engraved Pleasure.
These are just the ones I can remember right now. What's the trust between the antagonist and the heroine? Trust in what? Where's the NTR in that trust? what this trust is, how it will help with seduction and corruption. Trust doesn't cancel out Asuna and Kirito's love, so why should she trust Inoda to have sex with him?

These and other games play on the desire of the body, on sexual pleasure. Like the whole NTR genre in general. And the NTR genre works with big assumptions, because in reality it doesn't happen like that.

From the latest update I have a hard time seeing how Fujino will climb out on the NTR path, things have gotten too confusing and massive.

The battle with the tree and the massage was supposed to be the turning point where Inoda would focus on Asuna's carnal desires, but instead we have almost best friends.
How to make an NTR out of this I have no idea, the next update will either fix this situation or make things worse.

The most logical way I can see is to remake this update and make the massage the starting point to put more pressure on Asuna's sexual desires

I believe Fujino is trying to correct course back to the original game's intent. When I played Part 1, my thoughts on Inoda was he was trying to get Asuna not as a conquest but as a genuine girlfriend. He tried to spend time with her to get her to like him more than Kirito. But that did not work and at the end of Part 1 he all in to try to get her to love with his superior sex skills. But that did not work.

Now in beginning of Part 2, he was changed to become more a scumbag trying to get Asuna because he feels he deserves her. Also blackmailing Kyouko as a side bitch and way to get to Asuna. Overall Part 2 is making him more like Hebishima. Now Fujino is trying to correct his actions so it is less scummy. Maybe I overthinking it but the dev does want people not to see Inoda as a generic NTRman who can only get Asuna because of his big dick but because he is a better ideal match for her.

 

[4-kun]

no offensive friend, but reading such comments I realize that fujino has gone in a completely different direction with his game.
Let's take different ntr games like Nebel Geisterjager, Battle Armor Sorgante, NTR Z, NTR Knight, Engraved Pleasure.
These are just the ones I can remember right now. What's the trust between the antagonist and the heroine? Trust in what? Where's the NTR in that trust? what this trust is, how it will help with seduction and corruption. Trust doesn't cancel out Asuna and Kirito's love, so why should she trust Inoda to have sex with him?

These and other games play on the desire of the body, on sexual pleasure. Like the whole NTR genre in general. And the NTR genre works with big assumptions, because in reality it doesn't happen like that.

From the latest update I have a hard time seeing how Fujino will climb out on the NTR path, things have gotten too confusing and massive.

The battle with the tree and the massage was supposed to be the turning point where Inoda would focus on Asuna's carnal desires, but instead we have almost best friends.
How to make an NTR out of this I have no idea, the next update will either fix this situation or make things worse.

The most logical way I can see is to remake this update and make the massage the starting point to put more pressure on Asuna's sexual desires

Also, no offense, but that's not all NTR is about. There are NTR games of much darker nature like 'Dark Hero Party,' and also some with exceptional storytelling like 'Hero Party Must Fall.' There is nothing wrong with trying to be unique.

But I think the main problem here is the significant change between part 1 and part 2. The first one was more of a 'classical' NTR, akin to your examples. The second part is, well, I don't know... different in many ways?

 

[danadana]

I think the problem is not Fujino but the people, he has stopped making the game the way he wants to try to please everyone and making his game into something meaningless that does not know where it is going in the end he has added so many stupid things In the end he has lost the meaning of the story, I think he should ignore everyone and focus on making the game however he wants and if you don't like it, then that's what it is, you can't make everyone happy. He should literally ignore everyone and make his game in peace without dates, without pressure and without anyone demanding anything from him and maybe after that we will have a game that is as good or better than the previous ones

 

[Saipulipoel]

Do this game has reminiscence or galery ?

 

[gonear]

Do this game has reminiscence or galery ?

ye

 

[icyair]

no offensive friend, but reading such comments I realize that fujino has gone in a completely different direction with his game.
Let's take different ntr games like Nebel Geisterjager, Battle Armor Sorgante, NTR Z, NTR Knight, Engraved Pleasure.
These are just the ones I can remember right now. What's the trust between the antagonist and the heroine? Trust in what? Where's the NTR in that trust? what this trust is, how it will help with seduction and corruption. Trust doesn't cancel out Asuna and Kirito's love, so why should she trust Inoda to have sex with him?

These and other games play on the desire of the body, on sexual pleasure. Like the whole NTR genre in general. And the NTR genre works with big assumptions, because in reality it doesn't happen like that.

From the latest update I have a hard time seeing how Fujino will climb out on the NTR path, things have gotten too confusing and massive.

The battle with the tree and the massage was supposed to be the turning point where Inoda would focus on Asuna's carnal desires, but instead we have almost best friends.
How to make an NTR out of this I have no idea, the next update will either fix this situation or make things worse.

The most logical way I can see is to remake this update and make the massage the starting point to put more pressure on Asuna's sexual desires

Oh, and in his explanation, Fujino wrote that the scene in the preview is just another dream.

And that explanation made everyone's ass on fire.

 

[4-kun]

Oh, and in his explanation, Fujino wrote that the scene in the preview is just another dream.

And that explanation made everyone's ass on fire.

On other platforms, the atmosphere appears to be more toxic. Here, at least, most people support their complaints with arguments.

 

[icyair]

On other platforms, the atmosphere appears to be more toxic. Here, at least, most people support their complaints with arguments.

Well yeah I was more referring to the Chinese on ci en, even on patreon in the comments everything is generally normal

 

[icyair]

eh, depressing of course, but I'm thinking the best solution would be to remake this update. Inoda had everything to tempt Asuna into doing lewd things in FOG. But after the update it's hard to imagine it, it's like some kind of wheel of samsara where we spin in a nightmare of flashbacks and dreams.

I hope fujino will stop listening to the community and just make a good game with hot pictures.
I'll see what happens next, but damn my finger already wants to hit the unsubscribe button on patreon.

 

[resident dumbass]

asuna betraying her "true love" kirito for her "second place" inoda = interesting

asuna betraying her "second place" kirito for her "true love" inoda = less interesting

game gets worse as it leans into the second path imo

 

[Urgot Main Urgot]

eh, depressing of course, but I'm thinking the best solution would be to remake this update. Inoda had everything to tempt Asuna into doing lewd things in FOG. But after the update it's hard to imagine it, it's like some kind of wheel of samsara where we spin in a nightmare of flashbacks and dreams.

I hope fujino will stop listening to the community and just make a good game with hot pictures.
I'll see what happens next, but damn my finger already wants to hit the unsubscribe button on patreon.

Worse, I shouldn't disagree, this update was really a mess. The only thing I would keep is Asuna's HJ but without jokes and Inoda inventing something that he always was, and Suguha's rape of Kirito, I just wouldn't keep Kirito with Asuna, because no one imagined that and there was something wrong too.

I think the battles should have involved Asuna and Inoda, and not be alone or at least have some images of the two of them doing something while Kirito is killing monsters without showing Sinon.

 

[satoraiden]

That's the way it is

 

[pnkrel]

Ok done. There is still a lot of extra stuff bits and pieces that could be trimmed but I just want to get his out here. some caviets are that I think there are a few things fujino still hasn't come up with yet as there were at least one set of duplicate perks(maybe more I didn't notice) with one of them having something like "undecided near it". Also they are slightly out of order and also I am not fujino so in all likelyhood this is not final and subject to change. also I decided just to post them in case someone doesn't feel like messaging me but still wants to see. Also again there is some mtl jank such as inoda being called inuyasha and stuff but you can make out what the jist is.

Now I'll make choose your own adventure segment

Spoiler: Just the perks straight up

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Spoiler: Major story beats and take aways that I noticed

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Hopefully I didn't miss anything

Damn! After reading this, I think ppl are just worrying for nothing. He really planned it through, and when the hot content will start to come. This part 2 will be one of the best NTR game!