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oozaru2023

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I wonder why we always find little girls complaining about whether he is an ugly fat man or a beautiful young man. THIS IS A GAME WITH A NTR THEME, very big NTR Here women think more with their vagina than with their brain, that's why they choose bad decisions and the cuck is worse or never finds out or ends up liking to see someone else destroy his partner or wife.This genre is supposed to generate repulsion that an ugly guy is the one who steals the girl, that's what it's all about, it's rare that you find one who is kind and respectful to the girl.It is true that many stories about this have become very generic but there are also others that are true works of narrative art, so far Fujino has not disappointed me, what did disappoint me was the number of crybabies who complained about the last update,It makes me fear that Fujino will lose track and get sidetracked.Let's see what happens

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4-kun

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Once again dropping Canon facts nobody that likes SAO NTR cares about! While it's massively used in NTR doujins and scenarios, Season 1/Aincrad is actually the most unrealistic at worst place to use, not only was the game literally 100% bug-proof because of the biggest plot-device the author made for Kayaba's plan to even work at all (The Cardinal System), it also makes the usual rape/mind control scenarios used fully impossible to ever happen thanks to how many failsafe for any behavior the author bothered included in heavy detail. It's literally impossible to force, kidnap or rape someone inside SAO, the worst you could do was kill them :p Also, ironically, while they constantly use it for NTR scenarios with "Kirito's dick isn't big enough/he has no stamina", it was actually the one place where he canonically could outfuck event he baddest of NTR Chads thanks to how high stats were, as "stamina" for sex was was also determined by that (For some reason...Kayaba was growing bored I guess :3).

Granted, nobody really cares or should care much when doing Hentai, especially NTR scenarios, I suppose, but it's just funny how many pieces of SAO NTR following said cliches are set there when it's the single place/time of the series most of them wouldn't work XD
I was thinking of something more original than mind control, blackmail, or rape. ^^Since people are trapped in a virtual world, they could establish their own society—ruled by an PK-Union or something like this.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I was thinking of something more original than mind control, blackmail, or rape. ^^Since people are trapped in a virtual world, they could establish their own society—ruled by an PK-Union or something like this.
See, that's the thing, this can't happen either, PKers were basically the bottom bitches of society, and were only scary for being unhinged enough to actually kill, otherwise they were essentially fucked and had to fully depend on other players they threatened to even get basic shit: They couldn't enter cities, couldn't use normal facilities, buy from NPCs, get protected by the system in case of attacks, etc; that's why when Laughing Coffin actually became an issue all it took was one raid from the Clearers to fully eliminate them, and the only reason they lost people at all was because the other side actually was willing to kill them from the get-go while they were trying to mostly just imprison them. They could have never ruled anything despite the delusions of NTR-writers lately that try to paint LC as some menacing super criminal group, when in reality they were a bunch of nobodies with 0 power in and outside the game except fear, and only one of them, the leader, having any sort of actual competence in the real world...and he ended up being turned into a tree by Kirito anyway :p
 

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See, that's the thing, this can't happen either, PKers were basically the bottom bitches of society, and were only scary for being unhinged enough to actually kill, otherwise they were essentially fucked and had to fully depend on other players they threatened to even get basic shit: They couldn't enter cities, couldn't use normal facilities, buy from NPCs, get protected by the system in case of attacks, etc; that's why when Laughing Coffin actually became an issue all it took was one raid from the Clearers to fully eliminate them, and the only reason they lost people at all was because the other side actually was willing to kill them from the get-go while they were trying to mostly just imprison them. They could have never ruled anything despite the delusions of NTR-writers lately that try to paint LC as some menacing super criminal group, when in reality they were a bunch of nobodies with 0 power in and outside the game except fear, and only one of them, the leader, having any sort of actual competence in the real world...and he ended up being turned into a tree by Kirito anyway :p
I get that, but my point is, since you need to break the original world rules anyway for NTR to work, it's better to be at least original than to follow beaten-up tropes. ;)
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I get that, but my point is, since you need to break the original world rules anyway for NTR to work, it's better to be at least original than to follow beaten-up tropes. ;)
Oh, I know, if you read back I acknowledged that at the end of my first fun fact quote, all I'm saying is how hilarious I find most of the cliche NTR scenarios specifically used for SAO make even less sense thanks to the H-artists/writers not caring at all about understand the series' actual limitations at all :p

If anything, I applaud Fujino for remembering Agil is a happily married man who actually cares for his wife about all else rather than trying to make him into SAO's Raikage like many NTR artists have done lately just because he's the only big black dude on the series, which is ultra-dumb on many levels XD
 
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Strix1234

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Once again dropping Canon facts nobody that likes SAO NTR cares about! While it's massively used in NTR doujins and scenarios, Season 1/Aincrad is actually the most unrealistic at worst place to use, not only was the game literally 100% bug-proof because of the biggest plot-device the author made for Kayaba's plan to even work at all (The Cardinal System), it also makes the usual rape/mind control scenarios used fully impossible to ever happen thanks to how many failsafe for any behavior the author bothered included in heavy detail. It's literally impossible to force, kidnap or rape someone inside SAO, the worst you could do was kill them :p Also, ironically, while they constantly use it for NTR scenarios with "Kirito's dick isn't big enough/he has no stamina", it was actually the one place where he canonically could outfuck event he baddest of NTR Chads thanks to how high stats were, as "stamina" for sex was was also determined by that (For some reason...Kayaba was growing bored I guess :3).

Granted, nobody really cares or should care much when doing Hentai, especially NTR scenarios, I suppose, but it's just funny how many pieces of SAO NTR following said cliches are set there when it's the single place/time of the series most of them wouldn't work XD
I can barely remember SAO lmao,thanks for the canon dump.
 

Strix1234

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Look, the whole point of these kind NTR games is that the MC usually loses everything. That was the same in previous games by Fujino.

It's pretty much confirmed that Asuna, her mom, and Liz end up in Inoda's harem.

I personally don't believe this, but there is only a very little chance that Sugu ends up with Kirito, which would be kind of a good ending for him. However, as I said, it's usually not how this kind of games end.
I usually like the NTR protag to have at least one good thing in the end cuz sometimes i just actually feel really bad for the MC,hasnt been the case so far with Kirito not sure why but i imagine when the end comes it will be super depressing or pathetic,maybe it has a split choice at the end btween full NTR or Sugu and Kirito go togheter. Tho as far as i know there have never been choices and multiple endings in one of his games.
 

Strix1234

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suguha is more likely to get with inoda than kirito. inoda in the first part regularly talked about how he hates kirito and wants to destroy him and take everything he has. inoda will probably learn about how she's having sex then blackmail her with the help of asuna.

i don't get why people are taking inoda pity serious when he's just using it to manipulate asuna for sex.
Inoda is clearly a piece of shit with 0 redeemeing qualities lmao. People are falling to his manipulation even outside of the game it seems.
 
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kinglionheart

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Inoda is clearly a piece of shit with 0 redeemeing qualities lmao. People are falling to his manipulation even outside of the game it seems.
Even the dev wanted to portray Inoda not as a complete scumbag. Apparently he failed :(

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.
 
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Strix1234

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Even the dev wanted to portray Inoda not as a complete scumbag. Apparently he failed :(

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.
Huh,i kinda can see some stuff Inoda has going but like nothing really redeems him. He clearly has a obsessive love?objectification? for Asuna and seems to be genuinely helping Lisbeth even if its a trade (Not 100% sure). But otherwise he really isnt a good person at all,maybe i just missed something in the character but everything he does seems geared to getting in with Asuna.
 
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4-kun

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Even the dev wanted to portray Inoda not as a complete scumbag. Apparently he failed :(

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.
Yeah, indeed, he failed with that, but what's worse is that he still wants to change his character mid-game. That won't go well, pretty sure of it :D
 
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kinglionheart

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Huh,i kinda can see some stuff Inoda has going but like nothing really redeems him. He clearly has a obsessive love?objectification? for Asuna and seems to be genuinely helping Lisbeth even if its a trade (Not 100% sure). But otherwise he really isnt a good person at all,maybe i just missed something in the character but everything he does seems geared to getting in with Asuna.
Inoda is definitely NOT a good person but I think Inoda was supposed to be a sad loser who was trying to get a woman out of his league, like in Revenge of the Nerds. But with all the shit he has done especially in the beginning of Part 2, I am surprised the dev thought anyone did not think Inoda was a piece of shit. Maybe the dev will make Inoda to be loving person to Asuna only and a piece of shit to everyone else.
 

albakr0ss

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I wonder why we always find little girls complaining about whether he is an ugly fat man or a beautiful young man. THIS IS A GAME WITH A NTR THEME, very big NTR Here women think more with their vagina than with their brain, that's why they choose bad decisions and the cuck is worse or never finds out or ends up liking to see someone else destroy his partner or wife.This genre is supposed to generate repulsion that an ugly guy is the one who steals the girl, that's what it's all about, it's rare that you find one who is kind and respectful to the girl.It is true that many stories about this have become very generic but there are also others that are true works of narrative art, so far Fujino has not disappointed me, what did disappoint me was the number of crybabies who complained about the last update,It makes me fear that Fujino will lose track and get sidetracked.Let's see what happens

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Even the dev wanted to portray Inoda not as a complete scumbag. Apparently he failed :(

This is also my own doing, as I intended to shape Inoda as a somewhat perverted and comical character. Moreover, considering that many friends identified with Inoda through self-insertion, I didn't want to portray him as a complete scumbag. However, it appears that the outcome didn't satisfy everyone, and I will reassess this moving forward.
Someone who intentionally steals someone else's GF or wife, scumbag, plain and simple. But imo a "complete scumbag" would be stealing someones girl, fucking her, but then tossing her aside or passing her around to other guys once he's had his fill. That's kinda what I assume Fujino means by Inoda not being a "complete scumbag". Inoda clearly wants Asuna for himself, and doesn't want anyone else touching her. As we saw he's even holding himself back from lashing out at Kirito cuz he knows he has to play the long game if he wants Asuna to be exclusively his. There's definitely levels of scumbaggery, and Fujino is clearly not wanting Inoda to be the lowest of the low, but he clearly does view Inoda as a scumbag, just not a "complete scumbag".
 

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Someone who intentionally steals someone else's GF or wife, scumbag, plain and simple. But imo a "complete scumbag" would be stealing someones girl, fucking her, but then tossing her aside or passing her around to other guys once he's had his fill. That's kinda what I assume Fujino means by Inoda not being a "complete scumbag". Inoda clearly wants Asuna for himself, and doesn't want anyone else touching her. As we saw he's even holding himself back from lashing out at Kirito cuz he knows he has to play the long game if he wants Asuna to be exclusively his. There's definitely levels of scumbaggery, and Fujino is clearly not wanting Inoda to be the lowest of the low, but he clearly does view Inoda as a scumbag, just not a "complete scumbag".
I mean, the dev has already admitted that he failed in portraying Inoda the way he intended initially.
The point is, whatever he does now in part 2 doesn't change what happened back in part 1. He could turn him into the nicest person on earth, but it would just contradict the logic set by himself for the game. imho, I think Inoda is a perfectly fine character as he was in part 1. He should either keep him that way or even build upon the scumbag narrative. There is no logical reason for changes, as Inoda has a personality with no regrets or hesitations. I would even say he is bolder now, after that rage outburst and wish of killing Kirito.

As for his relationship with Asuna, he is now even more maniacally obsessed with her, seeing her as his property after the rainy night. The whole 'nice guy' act is just because of Liz, who is more or less forcing him to play along, but he clearly hates it. Hmm, maybe he could go a weird love route with Inoda to explain why he is nicer to Asuna, but there is no buildup to that as for now, and I have a feeling that the audience wouldn't like it.

In defense of Fujino, it's much easier to depict simple good or evil characters. Going down the layers of complexity requires a fine understanding of human nature. It's his first attempt to create deeper characters, and it's fine to make mistakes.
 
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