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However, my main gripe is with the narrative, especially when it comes to the portrayal of feelings—it just seems unrealistic. I get the whole 'hentai logic', and sometimes it doesn't bother me too much, but in this case, Asuna is corrupted too easily and quickly for my taste. From day one, she's lying to Kirito and sneaking around with Inoda behind his back.

I know we're not supposed to put ourselves in the characters' shoes in this type of game, but everything is designed to make us empathize with them. If we don't, we're left sympathizing with the antagonist. But I just can't relate to Inoda—I don't share his values or condone his actions towards Asuna, which feel like those of a virgin discovering sex for the first time. It's all a bit underwhelming, and I struggle to see how Asuna could fall for such a loser. Even with a lot of imagination, I can't make Inoda's appeal to her believable... Yes, it's fiction, but even in a fictional game, there needs to be a semblance of plausibility for it to resonate with people like me.

Some say you shouldn't empathize with Kirito to enjoy the game, but I find it hard not to because I can't align myself with Inoda at all.
I want to ask you: how would you fix the unrealistic elements in the plot while keeping Inoda? (Without using cheap tricks like blackmail) Is that even possible?
Honestly, I see the plots of all similar games as a kind of fairy tale. In a fairy tale, a hero can defeat a dragon, and a beauty can fall in love with a beast. Sure, it's unrealistic, but it's still interesting to watch.
 
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However, my main gripe is with the narrative, especially when it comes to the portrayal of feelings—it just seems unrealistic. I get the whole 'hentai logic', and sometimes it doesn't bother me too much, but in this case, Asuna is corrupted too easily and quickly for my taste. From day one, she's lying to Kirito and sneaking around with Inoda behind his back.
While I agree the narrative is unrealistic. I would say the unrealistic part is how much luck and help from a literal goddess Inoda has to get Asuna, not the feelings part. Also Asuna is not corrupted too easily and quickly. It took literally half the game (around v0.5) to have Asuna to agree to have virtual cheating with Inoda. It is one of the slowest NTR stories I know besides VNs. Also what do you mean sneaking around with Inoda since Day one? Both in Part 1 & 2 it takes a while before Asuna would be alone with Inoda.

Furthermore, the game could benefit from multiple narrative paths and endings, similar to those in Dark Hero Party. The inclusion of a 'revenge route' in that game not only diversifies the story but also deepens the emotional engagement. Offering players such choices can enhance the realism and complexity of the narrative, making the experience more immersive and varied.
It is best not to expect too much from a sole developer. I don't know how Dark Hero Party works but this game with mostly Kirito's perspective and no endings yet already has so much bugs. Imagine how unplayable and how long the development will be if there was more paths and perspectives.

I've noticed that every player has a different reason for playing NTR games, and I'm really curious—what's yours? I've heard that even creators can get depressed and empathize deeply with the characters they create, leading to cases of depression among NTR game developers. Although I doubt I'd feel depressed if I were to create a tragic NTR scenario for a character I invented, maybe I'm wrong. After all, these creators spend a lot of time with their characters and develop a bond, which is why they're so invested in their stories.
I can't say for sure why I like NTR in general but for this particular game it is because I don't like the coupling of Kirito and Asuna. It just doesn't work for me so I want them to be broken. If this means Kirito suffers alone or Kirito happy with someone else it doesn't matter to me. I just want to see hot Asuna sex with another guy.
 
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While I agree the narrative is unrealistic. I would say the unrealistic part is how much luck and help from a literal goddess Inoda has to get Asuna, not the feelings part. Also Asuna is not corrupted too easily and quickly. It took literally half the game (around v0.5) to have Asuna to agree to have virtual cheating with Inoda. It is one of the slowest NTR stories I know besides VNs. Also what do you mean sneaking around with Inoda since Day one? Both in Part 1 & 2 it takes a while before Asuna would be alone with Inoda.


It is best not to expect too much from a sole developer. I don't know how Dark Hero Party works but this game with mostly Kirito's perspective and no endings yet already has so much bugs. Imagine how unplayable and how long the development will be if there was more paths and perspectives.


I can't say for sure why I like NTR in general but for this particular game it is because I don't like the coupling of Kirito and Asuna. It just doesn't work for me so I want them to be broken. If this means Kirito suffers alone or Kirito happy with someone else it doesn't matter to me. I just want to see hot Asuna sex with another guy.
I would prefer there to be more than one bastard, because Asuna likes big dick and not Inoda and so she will jump on any dick, as long as it is big.
 
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Aniky Light

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if Fujino knows what the endings will be, then why does Saikey say:

Multiple Paths: Shape the narrative with your choices, leading to different endings?
Unless it's Kirito creating different endings for others and not for himself.
I think the ending will be a mess
 

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every monday i always have anxiety for new report, because i don't want there to be something i can't stand, it's about Suguha, it would be stupid if she ends up in an invisible trap too (i'm not talking about the 0.70 update but in the future) i think she will never end up with Inoda, because Inoda only fucked those who were in contact with him (Asuna, Liz and Asuna's mother), so Alice, Sinon, Leafa/Suguha were the only ones who were never in contact with Inoda even from afar
Anyway, do you think Fujino will put some taste of a new outfit for Asuna in the report for monday? image (50).png
 
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kinglionheart

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im kinda confused, its there no asuna and inoda pov outside of recollection room in the part 2?
Im still at june 5th.
There are some Asuna and Inoda's POV outside of the recollection room throughout the game but most of game is in Kirito's POV.

every monday i always have anxiety for new report, because i don't want there to be something i can't stand, it's about Suguha, it would be stupid if she ends up in an invisible trap too (i'm not talking about the 0.70 update but in the future) i think she will never end up with Inoda, because Inoda only fucked those who were in contact with him (Asuna, Liz and Asuna's mother), so Alice, Sinon, Leafa/Suguha were the only ones who were never in contact with Inoda even from afar
Anyway, do you think Fujino will put some taste of a new outfit for Asuna in the report for monday?
Relax the progress reports never spoil any story related events. It would tell if Suguha has a event but won't tell what and who it is with. Personally I think the closest Inoda will get with Suguha is this:

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I do hope we get a preview of what the new Asuna outfit will be but I don't expect it. It might be much of a spoiler.

Cute chibi Asuna pic btw.
 
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There are some Asuna and Inoda's POV outside of the recollection room throughout the game but most of game is in Kirito's POV.


Relax the progress reports never spoil any story related events. It would tell if Suguha has a event but won't tell what and who it is with. Personally I think the closest Inoda will get with Suguha is this:

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I do hope we get a preview of what the new Asuna outfit will be but I don't expect it. It might be much of a spoiler.
that was just a bonus, not a sure thing
 
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There are some Asuna and Inoda's POV outside of the recollection room throughout the game but most of game is in Kirito's POV.
So i cant see whats really happening unless i check the recollection room right?
Such a shame, maybe because im not hardcore ntr fans, but i usually plays the a game with both sides pov,
i think i should hope and wait until future updates
 

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There are some Asuna and Inoda's POV outside of the recollection room throughout the game but most of game is in Kirito's POV.


Relax the progress reports never spoil any story related events. It would tell if Suguha has a event but won't tell what and who it is with. Personally I think the closest Inoda will get with Suguha is this:

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I do hope we get a preview of what the new Asuna outfit will be but I don't expect it. It might be much of a spoiler.

Cute chibi Asuna pic btw.
Brother, where did the spoilers come from, it's definitely Fujino's handiwork
 

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that was just a bonus, not a sure thing
That is the joke. Inoda will only get Suguha in non-canon bonus scenes.

So i cant see whats really happening unless i check the recollection room right?
Such a shame, maybe because im not hardcore ntr fans, but i usually plays the a game with both sides pov,
i think i should hope and wait until future updates
Yes most of non-Kirito POVs are in the recollection. Not all NTR games give you multiple POVs and this game mostly gives you you Kirito's POV outside of the recollection room so make peace with that feature and don't bother waiting.
 
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I've noticed that every player has a different reason for playing NTR games, and I'm really curious—what's yours?
I like ntr because of the corruption, started specially with mom ntr on ntrman's game mother's lesson: mitsuko. Because, at least in my head, a mother is the one who should love you the most, right? And if the one who's supposed to love and take care of you, stops caring abou you at all, and can only think about sex, that's the highest level I can think of how much a woman can like and enjoy sex. Then it's almost the same line for normal ntr, someone who deeply loved you, stops loving you little by little because she liked sex better with someone else, to a point where she can even do it right in front of you (of course only in fiction, cause if you see your wife swaying and moaning in front of you, with only her head showing through a curtain, and you don't get suspicious and go see what's happening, you're a retard bruh). Makes sense for someone else or it's just me who's likes horny depraved women?
 

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So had a question, if you click on phone then notes, it'll tell you asuna's location in red. But when you off the phone a green location will pop up like city center instead. Is that green pop up her actual location? and the red one a lie?

Also sometimes it says asuna's status updated, but when i check the phone and menu, nothings changed. Like nothings greyed out.
 
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So had a question, if you click on phone then notes, it'll tell you asuna's location in red. But when you off the phone a green location will pop up like city center instead. Is that green pop up her actual location? and the red one a lie?

Also sometimes it says asuna's status updated, but when i check the phone and menu, nothings changed. Like nothings greyed out.
You got that right about the location, the red one is where Kirito thinks she is (or where she told him she is), and the green one is her actual location. And about the status update, there's not always something showing what she's doing. For example, in the latest updates this happens, status is updated but there's nothing showing on the menu, but latter we find out that she was taking nudes to send Inoda
 
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So had a question, if you click on phone then notes, it'll tell you asuna's location in red. But when you off the phone a green location will pop up like city center instead. Is that green pop up her actual location? and the red one a lie?

Also sometimes it says asuna's status updated, but when i check the phone and menu, nothings changed. Like nothings greyed out.
You got that right about the location, the red one is where Kirito thinks she is (or where she told him she is), and the green one is her actual location. And about the status update, there's not always something showing what she's doing. For example, in the latest updates this happens, status is updated but there's nothing showing on the menu, but latter we find out that she was taking nudes to send Inoda
If I understood correctly, the status is constantly changing, but when we look at the menu, we only see what Kirito knows. To see the real status, you need to choose in a dream that you want to see the world as it is. If I misunderstood, please correct me.
 

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Also sometimes it says asuna's status updated, but when i check the phone and menu, nothings changed. Like nothings greyed out.
There are times when her status is suppose to change but the dev forgets to do so. It is most noticeable when the perks says it is updated but not updated in the Perks page. He is only human so mistakes happen.

If I understood correctly, the status is constantly changing, but when we look at the menu, we only see what Kirito knows. To see the real status, you need to choose in a dream that you want to see the world as it is. If I misunderstood, please correct me.
That is what is suppose to happen. You can also visit the shrine during the day to pray for true sight if the game allows you.
 
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