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4-kun

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and I was thinking that you had stopped spamming your trademark, things were starting to get worrying :ROFLMAO:
Nah, I’ll just let the newcomers have their way. I’ve been around for nearly a year and have probably said enough to fill 20+ thread pages. Time to observe for now. :p
 

Infeno2.0

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Dude this plot is a mess :D
So Kirito is being fed with concil data related to Oberon fucking Asuna, forcing him to remember the info about the SEED or its location. NTR humiliation route.
Unless there's more things about Asuna he dosen't know from the SAO period and the key to find the SEED is the concil present this data to him. She was pretty sure about him not knowing anything in her dialogue and we know Kirito said Asuna told/lie to him that she wasnt touched by Sugou. Now Simon saying nothing beyond SAO make sense the concil also have FOG data about Inoda/Asuna. The memory labyrinth had 2 teleport crystals and we start with Sugou/Asuna in the center and unless is all related to Oberon, maybe we will get a third guy beyond Suguo and Inoda.
 

mos555

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Dude this plot is a mess :D
So Kirito is being fed with concil data related to Oberon fucking Asuna, forcing him to remember the info about the SEED or its location. NTR humiliation route.
Unless there's more things about Asuna he dosen't know from the SAO period and the key to find the SEED is the concil present this data to him. She was pretty sure about him not knowing anything in her dialogue and we know Kirito said Asuna told/lie to him that she wasnt touched by Sugou. Now Simon saying nothing beyond SAO make sense the concil also have FOG data about Inoda/Asuna. The memory labyrinth had 2 teleport crystals and we start with Sugou/Asuna in the center and unless is all related to Oberon, maybe we will get a third guy beyond Suguo and Inoda.
It's not 2 crystals. The maze is looped, if you constantly go to the right, the maze will scroll, constantly repeating itself.
 

lanzer38

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how did fujino sensei redeem himself? it feels like he just recycled the same tired plot where the fmc ends up cheating again without much of a thought. that cliched fatso douchebag taking advantage of the whole situation, which feels super low level writing. honestly, even the cgi was trash, so it’s hard to take any of this seriously

and yeah, if we’re talking about that second scenario, it would be the absolute worst case scenario. like, seriously, how predictable can you get? i get that some people might find it entertaining, but it’s just downright bad. it's one man's trash is another man's masterpiece, sure, but right now, this is just a mess. i can’t see how anyone can enjoy this without feeling like they’re stuck in a loop of the same lame tropes
yeah i feel the same about the fake kirito stuff but the misunderstanding timing is on point because of the part of asuna is suspicious of kirito going to the brothel. But kirito said that he will tell all truth when the mission is over but asuna's c*nt is itching so she go anyways hahaha
 

Infeno2.0

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It's not 2 crystals. The maze is looped, if you constantly go to the right, the maze will scroll, constantly repeating itself.
Yeah, make sense a single crystal the maze being looped but one thing Fujino never bring in game are the events before Oberon, there several details from that period present in the plot but nothing about events there.
Since he is bring to the plot now Oberon fucking Asuna what else he could bring, that would be a nice plot twist.
 

SixDates

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Well, if they break up, then it will cease to be an NTR game. Everything is based on their official relationship. That's why, by the way, I don't understand NTR games about mother and son. What the hell should a son think about who his mother is fucking with?

I really don't understand how people think like this, beyond having been raised motherless I can't understand how they fail to wrap their head around the idea of Mother-Son NTR games.


Netorare at the end of the day is all about losing a relationship, damaging bonds, or many similar scenarios.

While most doujins or games makes it so the cuck/son character has an ingrained sexual attraction towards their mother, in a way that would make Freud blush. Even a normal person, not from Alabama, should understand that the bond between a mother and a son can be damaged like any other type of relationship.


Less make an example so everyone can understand it very simply.

Let's say I have a friend, who I don't particularly like as a girl, and there is this guy I HATE, because he is Suguhaphobic. Saying things like "Incest is bad" "Suguha is not even in the top 3 characters from SAO" "etc".

Of course, like any normal person I could not continue my friendship with that girl if she started dating the person I hate the most in the entire world. By choosing that relationship, she would be doing so while acknowledging that it would be jeopardizing our friendship.

(A broken bond over someone not appreciating the best girl, a tale as old as time.)

Now, take that very common place example that happens everyday in the real world, and apply it to a similar concept with your mother.

You may, or may not love your mum, depending how much she likes or doesn't like Suguha, but I'm sure that you wouldn't be able to proudly say you love her, if she spent her every weekend giving rimjobs to random homeless guys for the art of the craft.

The moment a character chooses someone or something else over the protagonist/cuck in question, be that for love or simple the pleasure of giving rimjobs to hairy hicks doesn't matter, that can be counted as NTR when framed by a porn-point-of-view.

Perhaps it's just me being old fashioned, and not as hip and trendy as Moss555 himself, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to be accept my mother fucking some random criminal, a classmate of mine 20 years her junior, or anyone who I find similarly disagreeable.




Anyways, no Suguha today, just a random Kyouko post to keep it relevant to the topic at hand.

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gaka200

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Kirito did mention he fought Sugou in real life. Probably that scene outside the hospital happened like in canon did happen but Kirito didn't save Asuna in the virtual game with Kayaba's help.
And I guess without Kayaba's help, Kirito doesn't know about having the SEED that Kayaba gives (which is basically just the source code) to create other VRMMOs. But that would be a more canon focused explanation on this whole weird plot line that's going on.
 

throdo

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May 27, 2020
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Are there any other games that have the 'Asuna status changed' mechanic? Where it was known to the player that some devious acts are ongoing. That is so well done in this game.
 

AlterInfernalAllius

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I am pretty sure the Administrator-minati believes Kayaba hide the Seed or information about the Seed with Kirito that is why they are scanning his memories. I don't understand why everyone is thinking that maze is suppose to represent Kirito's memories when it is representing Kirito searching through the minati's hidden files. The time dilation part was me wondering why Infeno2.0 mentioned it in his post. It doesn't seem to be related to anything else in his post.
I know, I was making a joke about it because they believe the canon thing happened when it never did XD

It’s still a bit random, considering her dad came directly to his apartment and then just let him leave?
I mean, we KNOW Fujino's writing isn't really the most consistent in general or at all, especially when it's trying to overwrite Canon to fit his NTR-verse, so no wonder :p

And I guess without Kayaba's help, Kirito doesn't know about having the SEED that Kayaba gives (which is basically just the source code) to create other VRMMOs. But that would be a more canon focused explanation on this whole weird plot line that's going on.
This one is another big example, and a funny one at that...Kirito never got the Seed from Kayaba, therefore VRMMOs never became widespread in the NTR-verse compared to Canon SAO, meaning most games post-ALO can't exist period...but Sinon was mentioned to have been a top-player in GGO. Again, GGO was a Seed-based game, so it simply can't exist in this world, so...yeah XD

At the end of the day, the game's plot is a titanic mess that the more Fujino tries to 'make sense' by making it into a more 'complex' story, he just creates more and more and more plot-holes, he's just lucky most people either don't know or don't give a shit about Canon SAO because they're only here to see Kirito getting NTR-ed, so the game is still his most popular one despite all the issues :p

I really don't understand how people think like this, beyond having been raised motherless I can't understand how they fail to wrap their head around the idea of Mother-Son NTR games.


Netorare at the end of the day is all about losing a relationship, damaging bonds, or many similar scenarios.

While most doujins or games makes it so the cuck/son character has an ingrained sexual attraction towards their mother, in a way that would make Freud blush. Even a normal person, not from Alabama, should understand that the bond between a mother and a son can be damaged like any other type of relationship.


Less make an example so everyone can understand it very simply.

Let's say I have a friend, who I don't particularly like as a girl, and there is this guy I HATE, because he is Suguhaphobic. Saying things like "Incest is bad" "Suguha is not even in the top 3 characters from SAO" "etc".

Of course, like any normal person I could not continue my friendship with that girl if she started dating the person I hate the most in the entire world. By choosing that relationship, she would be doing so while acknowledging that it would be jeopardizing our friendship.

(A broken bond over someone not appreciating the best girl, a tale as old as time.)

Now, take that very common place example that happens everyday in the real world, and apply it to a similar concept with your mother.

You may, or may not love your mum, depending how much she likes or doesn't like Suguha, but I'm sure that you wouldn't be able to proudly say you love her, if she spent her every weekend giving rimjobs to random homeless guys for the art of the craft.

The moment a character chooses someone or something else over the protagonist/cuck in question, be that for love or simple the pleasure of giving rimjobs to hairy hicks doesn't matter, that can be counted as NTR when framed by a porn-point-of-view.

Perhaps it's just me being old fashioned, and not as hip and trendy as Moss555 himself, but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to be accept my mother fucking some random criminal, a classmate of mine 20 years her junior, or anyone who I find similarly disagreeable.




Anyways, no Suguha today, just a random Kyouko post to keep it relevant to the topic at hand.

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Trust on the biggest Sugu fan here beyond even me to make such an amazing example XD
 
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mos555

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This one is another big example, and a funny one at that...Kirito never got the Seed from Kayaba, therefore VRMMOs never became widespread in the NTR-verse compared to Canon SAO, meaning most games post-ALO can't exist period...but Sinon was mentioned to have been a top-player in GGO. Again, GGO was a Seed-based game, so it simply can't exist in this world, so...yeah XD
Then what is Alice doing in this game anyway? She is not a human at all, she is a perfect artificial intelligence from Alicization. And even if we said that she received a platform for the real world just like in the novel, but it is unlikely that an AI robot can be hypnotized.
 
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kinglionheart

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will asuna keep letting inoda have sex with her in fog consentually?
Yes. She has her excuse to fuck wild in FOG now.

Then what is Alice doing in this game anyway? She is not a human at all, she is a perfect artificial intelligence from Alicization. And even if we said that she received a platform for the real world just like in the novel, but it is unlikely that an AI robot can be hypnotized.
Most likely Fujino created a original character that looks and named Alice. This way he can have all the fun he wants with Alice without explaining how she exists in the real world. Of course maybe Fujino will make a twist that Alice is a AI in robotic body and she was programed so well she believes she is a real woman so was able to be hypnotized. But I doubt Fujino will go that far.

This one is another big example, and a funny one at that...Kirito never got the Seed from Kayaba, therefore VRMMOs never became widespread in the NTR-verse compared to Canon SAO, meaning most games post-ALO can't exist period...but Sinon was mentioned to have been a top-player in GGO. Again, GGO was a Seed-based game, so it simply can't exist in this world, so...yeah XD
Fujino is trying to pick and choose parts of the canon story he wants into his story without knowing how it fits into the larger canon. Alice is probably the best example. It is his fanfiction and it would only bother people knows the inconsistent logic of those changes as you said. It just seems a lot more trouble than it is worth. It might have been easier to write his own original story instead.
 
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