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Unfortunately for various reasons I missed a couple of updates and now I don't know what's new. I hope that one day a detailed guide can be made in order to discover all the routes and not miss anything.
 

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Then what is Alice doing in this game anyway? She is not a human at all, she is a perfect artificial intelligence from Alicization. And even if we said that she received a platform for the real world just like in the novel, but it is unlikely that an AI robot can be hypnotized.
Yes. She has her excuse to fuck wild in FOG now.


Most likely Fujino created a original character that looks and named Alice. This way he can have all the fun he wants with Alice without explaining how she exists in the real world. Of course maybe Fujino will make a twist that Alice is a AI in robotic body and she was programed so well she believes she is a real woman so was able to be hypnotized. But I doubt Fujino will go that far.


Fujino is trying to pick and choose parts of the canon story he wants into his story without knowing how it fits into the larger canon. Alice is probably the best example. It is his fanfiction and it would only bother people knows the inconsistent logic of those changes as you said. It just seems a lot more trouble than it is worth. It might have been easier to write his own original story instead.
Basically what King said here above, Fujino essentially is mixing whatever he wants from Canon SAO without worrying too much in how it fits together and trying to justify it however he can which results mostly in a bigger mess in general, tbh. Alice and Quinella/Administrator were the first most blatant ones, Alice only appeared in the game because she won a poll, like Liz, she wasn't originally part of Fujino's plans when making the game, so he had to make up a full-on OC background and give her Alice's face to make her work because there was no way he could include Alice in any resemblance to her canon self's origins in his NTR-verse XD (Which ironically is probably what most people who voted for her wanted rather than the OC with her face and the mess of a boring story her plot ended up being, especially when it involved Klein that nobody gave a shit about). Same with Administrator, in the Fujinoverse she's an actual goddess rather than a megalomaniacal AI with a god complex, and has her own cult trying to help her descend into the real world now.
 

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It might have been easier to write his own original story instead.
I think it was just not worth overloading the game with unnecessary characters. Like Klein or Alice. To get into the brothel, Kirito could have asked for Inoda's help, he would have started to trust Inoda more, which would have been very ironic in this situation. And Inoda would have received some material for blackmail and manipulation. Which could have pushed some situations to develop.
 
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I been thinking about Kirito's relationship with Inoda for awhile now. I think Kirito's relationship with Inoda is at best a acquaintance. Kirito does not invite Inoda on his own. It is the girls' requesting to include Inoda. He is not a friend like Klein so they don't hang out. It would be impossible for Kirito to ask Inoda to do anything together especially a official secret mission.
Well, I think that improving Kirito and Inoda's relationship, at least on the surface, could bring some colors to this game. Especially in its NTR component. Can you imagine Asuna's joy? "I love Kirito, now he's friends with Inoda, and I'm fucking Inoda in the game. And no one is stressed. How well our company is doing."
 

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Do you remember in the first part? Inoda pulled Asuna out of the sewer, or went to look for Asuna at the bandits' base. That is, in Kirito's opinion, Inoda was doing something and was useful at some points. In the second part, Inoda is just furniture with a big dick.

In the second part, Fujino did not give Inoda a role at all that would justify his being in Kirito's company, except that Asuna simply invites him.
 
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afaik kirito is a pushover when it comes to inoda. he'll prolly do whatever he says, because he knows asuna will get angry if he doesn't help inoda. there's a slight chance for that to happen
So Inoda would say "Mommy Asuna! Big bad Kirito won't let me play with him! :cry:" while crying into and rubbing her breasts. :ROFLMAO:

Well, I think that improving Kirito and Inoda's relationship, at least on the surface, could bring some colors to this game. Especially in its NTR component. Can you imagine Asuna's joy? "I love Kirito, now he's friends with Inoda, and I'm fucking Inoda in the game. And no one is stressed. How well our company is doing."
It does make NTR more interesting if the guys have some sort of relationship as well. Inoda only relationship with Kirito is his intense jealousy of Kirito's popularity, good lucks, and have Asuna. While Kirito doesn't think much of anything of Inoda. Too bad Fujino is spending so much time developing other characters that he doesn't want to or have time to develop this relationship.
 
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Well, I think that improving Kirito and Inoda's relationship, at least on the surface, could bring some colors to this game. Especially in its NTR component. Can you imagine Asuna's joy? "I love Kirito, now he's friends with Inoda, and I'm fucking Inoda in the game. And no one is stressed. How well our company is doing."
Inoda is too arrogant behind Kirito's back, I don't see all this friendship
 

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I think it was just not worth overloading the game with unnecessary characters. Like Klein or Alice. To get into the brothel, Kirito could have asked for Inoda's help, he would have started to trust Inoda more, which would have been very ironic in this situation. And Inoda would have received some material for blackmail and manipulation. Which could have pushed some situations to develop.
That would never work because you remove the plausible deniability Inoda character needs to function, if he was the one who bring Kirito over there and after try to manipulate Asuna that would be easy to break, Kirito just had say well Inoda knows why I was there to Asuna.

I been thinking about Kirito's relationship with Inoda for awhile now. I think Kirito's relationship with Inoda is at best a acquaintance. Kirito does not invite Inoda on his own. It is the girls' requesting to include Inoda. He is not a friend like Klein so they don't hang out. It would be impossible for Kirito to ask Inoda to do anything together especially a official secret mission.
Kirito think about Inoda at best as a trhid wheel who get in the way and he knows not trust him and just because the adimin mess around he can't exactly put his finger on why. Even sometimes talking whit Asuna about that.
He think Inoda is weak and pathetic and he's not wrong but at the same time he keep underestimating Inoda and that's is his mistake. This is one more reason for the last scene being somewhat strange if Asuna wasnt that dumb she wolud suspect about all the things Inoda told her over his performance simple because they are not that close for this type of talk.
Is more or less like in some NTR plot where you have the Chad being cucked by the Nerd usually we would expect the opposite.
 
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Do you remember in the first part? Inoda pulled Asuna out of the sewer, or went to look for Asuna at the bandits' base. That is, in Kirito's opinion, Inoda was doing something and was useful at some points. In the second part, Inoda is just furniture with a big dick.

In the second part, Fujino did not give Inoda a role at all that would justify his being in Kirito's company, except that Asuna simply invites him.
That is because Fujino include the Admin in the story, the first part Inoda had some development because the plot needed, but now he is basicaly the tool for the admin reach her goal, make him OP in the FOG and maipulating Kirito outside.
Fujino had no need to develope his character further.
 
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Inoda is too arrogant behind Kirito's back, I don't see all this friendship
Inoda is a little manipulator and a liar, so after seeing the benefits, he can pretend to be Kirito's friend, especially if Asuna likes it.

That would never work because you remove the plausible deniability Inoda character needs to function, if he was the one who bring Kirito over there and after try to manipulate Asuna that would be easy to break, Kirito just had say well Inoda knows why I was there to Asuna.
Well, Kirito is unlikely to lead Inoda into the labyrinth of memory. So Inoda can honestly say, "Kirito asked me to take him to a brothel, and then I do not know what happened there." And then, with the eyes of a Shrek cat, he will say, "I'm sorry Kirito, I can't lie to Asuna."
 
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Inoda is a little manipulator and a liar, so after seeing the benefits, he can pretend to be Kirito's friend, especially if Asuna likes it.



Well, Kirito is unlikely to lead Inoda into the labyrinth of memory. So Inoda can honestly say, "Kirito asked me to take him to a brothel, and then I do not know what happened there." And then, with the eyes of a Shrek cat, he will say, "I'm sorry Kirito, I can't lie to Asuna."
Yes but how Kirito would explain to Inoda take me to brothel and for what. Like i said Kirito don't know why but he knows he can't trust Inoda.
 
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Yes but how Kirito would explain to Inoda take me to brothel and for what.
Kirito would hardly have told Inoda the truth about his quest. Most likely, I would say that "I will explain everything later and this is related to the game itself, something strange is happening around" Inoda will simply manipulate words and when Kirito asks Inoda to confirm something, Inoda will simply say - "I do not know, you did not tell me anything specific, just said it's important, take me away To the brothel"

There is an opportunity to play out a variety of situations, with different cues or actions. The point here is that Alice and Klein are not important to the plot. You just need to figure out how someone else from the existing ones helps Kirito get into the brothel. Inoda is the most suitable of all.
 

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In the game, go to the memory room, look at "Alice and Others", then imagine that all the events that are there could be spent on other characters - Asuna, Inoda, Suguha and Liz. How do you like it?
 
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There is an opportunity to play out a variety of situations, with different cues or actions. The point here is that Alice and Klein are not important to the plot. You just need to figure out how someone else from the existing ones helps Kirito get into the brothel. Inoda is the most suitable of all.
In the game, go to the memory room, look at "Alice and Others", then imagine that all the events that are there could be spent on other characters - Asuna, Inoda Suguha and Liz. How do you like it?
Yes and that is a old complain about Fujino put too many cookies in the jar, he got lost in the plot.
I've post about that, Fujino did gave some of his creative control to fans when he made pools about charecter inclusion and exclusion in the game and had to accomodate with new plot lines, you can tell he didnt had plans for these changes and everything got messy, Alice and Klein had ho real impact in the main plot and he end up wasting time and ressources. Even to the point to backtrack about Hebishima exclusion, i think in his original idea for the story hebishima had to be there to move the plot foward.
 

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do you guys also feels like asuna should keep cheating on kirito without accepting she wants to? like keep letting inoda do everything he wants, but doesn't want to accept it unless it's for a roleplay or something
Asuna agreed to fuck Inoda only in the game and justified even this by taking care of Kirito, and not caring about her carnal desires. At the moment, Asuna does not want to admit to herself that she is just a whore and therefore has set such boundaries.
 
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do you guys also feels like asuna should keep cheating on kirito without accepting she wants to? like keep letting inoda do everything he wants, but doesn't want to accept it unless it's for a roleplay or something
That it's a complicate idea, i read some doujinshi in this line and they are good.
The thing in this game is Asuna knows full well she is being a cheater and now start being a whore, but she will never fully admit that, we always get some excuse for her behavior, oh is a game is not real, is because of the strees, and when she start doing IRL will be i only love kirito but my pussy need Inoda. So in a sense she will never "accept" the fact.
 

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That it's a complicate idea, i read some doujinshi in this line and they are good.
The thing in this game is Asuna knows full well she is being a cheater and now start being a whore, but she will never fully admit that, we always get some excuse for her behavior, oh is a game is not real, is because of the strees, and when she start doing IRL will be i only love kirito but my pussy need Inoda. So in a sense she will never "accept" the fact.
I wonder how she will justify herself when the line "Virtual sex" in her status changes simply to "Sex" or if Fujino holds Asuna only for Inoda to "Sex with Inoda"
 
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In the game, go to the memory room, look at "Alice and Others", then imagine that all the events that are there could be spent on other characters - Asuna, Inoda, Suguha and Liz. How do you like it?
Don't forget, the inclusion of SAO side characters were meant to replace random NPC plot lines to pad the game. Personally, I rather Fujino would just focus on the maincast, but there were those who asked for this.

do you guys also feels like asuna should keep cheating on kirito without accepting she wants to? like keep letting inoda do everything he wants, but doesn't want to accept it unless it's for a roleplay or something
Frankly, it was about time Asuna willingly accepted to have sex with Inoda in FOG, v2 it's halfway done, dragging it any longer seemed pointless. When it comes to sex outside FOG, I hope fujino actually writes a good excuse or dramatizes Asuna's corruption. Also, I think Asuna got mind-fuck and didn't know how to handle watching fake kirito having sex. Fujino could really use a character monlogue scene on Asuna.
 

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Inoda is too arrogant behind Kirito's back, I don't see all this friendship
Indeed there's no space for friendship bettween them unlees something happen to Kirito and after he learn that Inoda "help" Asuna while he couldn't and even that would not be friendship only he trusting in Inoda more. Oblivious cuck route.
 

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When it comes to sex outside FOG, I hope fujino actually writes a good excuse or dramatizes Asuna's corruption. Also, I think Asuna got mind-fuck and didn't know how to handle watching fake kirito having sex. Fujino could really use a character monlogue scene on Asuna.
IRL sex i have a guess, it will be Asuna repeating her parents story, it's all in the 5 first and last minutes of the last update.
Asuna exploring her house is full of foreshadowing for IRL sex and Kirto accident in the end will be the kicker.
Kirito problably will have some issues to play FOG because the accident or being forced not to by Asuna.
She will not be online as much as she want now having to stay with Kirito, and because make no sense for the party to be online to do quests without him. Her stress will build up she will start resenting Kirito because in her mind will be his cheating the cause of his problems even if he explaining his mission to her. Since she can't go online to alleviate her pent up sex frustration and Inoda probably teasing her all the time she will crack and doing IRL, blaming Kirito for it as excuse.
 
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