Well Fujino definitely said that Oberon didn't rape Asuna. I think this is update 0.6 or 0.65, it was in the memory room and the dove shouted it
I understand what Fujino means by saying 'The "Fairy Dance" and "Phantom Bullet" stories did not happen.' He's emphasizing that these events didn't unfold as they did in the original—where Asuna was quickly rescued by her father, and Sinon was saved early by Hebishima. It's not that ALO doesn't exist in this version; rather, it strips Kirito of his typical 'Mary Sue protagonist' spotlight moments.
Hebeshima is a character from the original?!?!?! I thought he was like Inoda developed by Fujino?I just don't remember any mentions in the game that hebeshima saved sinon and I couldn't find a wiki page about him
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Queen_Nothing
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Oh wait I vaguely remember that. But then why are we shown multiple clips of it happening? Why was Asuna hospitalized for sex addiction and made to forget? The more Fujino denies, the more the plot just unravels until nothing makes sense.
these are just kirito's dreams, maybe there was just no penetration, but there was something else, we only know that there was SOME sexual violence on asuna and that's all
oh ok, but are you sure that Hebeshima saved her in some game in the first part? I just don't remember it at all and any mentions, well or maybe you roughly remember where it was?or in what context was it mentioned? sounds like an interesting fact, but I didn't know about it at all
steelblake
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It might surprise you but people here has constant conversations about canon and stuff so this doesn't surprise meThat's what people want to know?
I noticed this game has the sandbox tag. Why exactly? It was never a sandbox even in part 1 when you had a little bit of freedom, and part 2 is very linear.
mos555
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In the second part, there were moments when Kirito could run around the entire city map and enter all the buildings. I don't know. Apparently, someone thought that this was enough for the "sandbox" tag.
4-kun
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Whatever it was, it doesn’t explain why Sugou hates Kirito and not Asunas father instead
maybe because Kirito fucks his princess, and by the will of the plot suddenly oberon captures asuna and steal her from inoda and he better maintain good relations with her father xD or rather, not to make them worse with his attitude)Whatever it was, it doesn’t explain why Sugou hates Kirito and not Asunas father instead
Perhaps it's simply because he's a narcissist obsessed with Asuna (an added trait by Fujino—the original Sugou wasn't nearly this 'devoted')—a mentally unstable man who despises his goddess's current boyfriend. That's all there is to it.Whatever it was, it doesn’t explain why Sugou hates Kirito and not Asunas father instead
4-kun
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Yeah, yeah, and since the almighty council is as blind as Kirito when it comes to Inoda, it’s just going to stay that way.
What sparked the Trojan War? That worthless Paris never did anything to wrong Menelaus—oh, except for stealing Helen away.
In Fujino's mind, Asuna is Helen. And let's be honest, most players here are probably here for her too.
Kirito, Sugou, Inoda... men bleeding for her? It's only natural.
In Fujino's mind, Asuna is Helen. And let's be honest, most players here are probably here for her too.
Kirito, Sugou, Inoda... men bleeding for her? It's only natural.
I was rooting for Inoda. Still am mostly. But when he turned on the only one rooting for him (for the most part), I started to shift. I'm just hoping when the next phase comes out
, it can only go two ways, that i can see, both of which I hope finally brings them into their collapse.
Anything else will likely surprise me but that's both points I see being the final reveal.
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Why can't we see stars during the day? Because the sun is too bright.Yeah, yeah, and since the almighty council is as blind as Kirito when it comes to Inoda, it’s just going to stay that way.
As long as Kirito remains Asuna's boyfriend, I doubt Sugou would waste energy on some ugly, obese pig around her.
Besides—according to Fujino's setup—Sugou is only out on medical parole, relying on Shadow Fox for intel. Why would Shadow Fox even bother reporting Inoda's antics to him?
Go on—I’m happy to dissect every ‘plot hole’ you think is glaring.
In the final temple scene, the light orb representing Yui clearly bounced near Inoda's position—a reaction identical to when she recognized Kirito during the crystal-guiding sequence earlier. There's compelling evidence to suggest Yui will become Inoda's ally.
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But judging by the recent changes that Fujino has made, Kirito (Menelaus) has begun to lose interest in the war for Asuna (Elena). Kirito had already had so many sexual encounters with other women in the game, as well as small actions in the real world, and I didn't see Kirito judging himself. You wrote quite well about how Asuna thinks about Kirito and Inoda, that if Kirito didn't save her in ALO and therefore she forgot his heroic image (especially if you remember that part of her memory was changed) and began to feel warm feelings for Inoda. OK!
But, Fujino tramples on any logic in what is happening, in changing the characters of the characters in order to support the NTR component of the game. The question is, why does Asuna love Kirito at the beginning of the game (if you read the status), why does she hold on to him? Why did Asuna forgive the rape? Why did Asuna keep talking to Inoda? Why don't Kirito and Asuna break up? If she's better off with Inoda, then why all this drama? In the future, Asuna will pretend to be Kirito's girlfriend, at Inoda's request, but why? What do they get out of it? Some kind of moral satisfaction? Yes, Inoda will probably revel in his sadistic power, but why would Asuna? She is rich, beautiful, and "smart.".. She doesn't need Kirito at all.
And the answer is simple - NTR logic. That's why Asuna remains "as intellectually deficient, morally bankrupt and sexually obsessed in this game." And there is no epic Greek drama in the characters of these characters. They just obey the NTR logic. Sugo, even if he found out about Inoda, wouldn't do anything because Inode is still needed.(I think the Administrator would have protected him somehow)
And this is what Fujino took from the canon. Sugo was supposed to marry Asuna, but Kirito saved her and took her away. In Fujino's game, Asuna was saved by her father, Kirito did not kill him in ALO, but for some reason Sugo's motives remained the same - to get Asuna and destroy Kirito. A hole, a hole.Whatever it was, it doesn’t explain why Sugou hates Kirito and not Asunas father instead
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