RPGM Sword Art Online: The Trap of Breath Concealed Magic [Part 2 v0.80] [Fujino]

[kinglionheart]

Okay so saying 'Fairy Dance' never happen is just saying 'Kirito never went to ALO', which is fine. It means Asuna still ended up as Sugou's captive there, just that her father had her released somehow, but Sugou still went to jail from some reason. These are the scenes I mean.

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So what's going on here? I'll have to replay the games to remind myself of the context.

Part 1 was a nightmare of Kirito's so it did not happen. Part 2's was a recording the Council had so it did happen.

 

[darkbatVX]

NTR Logic: Inoda rapes Asuna but she blames Kirito
NTR Logic: Asuna is completely blind to what Inoda does and does not recognize Kirito's misunderstanding (like what happened in the brothel), in short Asuna is spineless, Asuna is blind even to herself, she doesn't realize what she's doing. Asuna manages to defeat the bosses but can't slap Inoda for what he's doing to her
people are angry with Kirito because he doesn't notice and doesn't save her, but then why should he save her if Asuna gives Inoda carte blanche, she leaves herself completely up to him, so Asuna doesn't seem to want to be saved

I agree with you. That last point of yours nails one of my core arguments— Asuna herself is complicit too.
To me, this doesn’t diminish Asuna’s appeal at all. I love morally ambiguous women. Just like Lupin III is hopelessly obsessed with Fujiko.

 

[mos555]

The purpose of my previous explanations was to address your concerns about the differences between Fujino's story and the original canon.
My stance remains this: while the ALO arc in the original strengthened Kirito and Asuna's relationship, making it seemingly unbreakable.But without the ALO arc, there's zero inconsistency in them being a devoted couple before encountering Inoda in NTR Online's timeline.
And I still believe there's little point in obsessing over canon/doujin discrepancies.

To put it simply: you raised questions, and I answered them—but frankly, I don’t think those questions needed to be asked in the first place.

I'm not writing about ALO in general. I'm writing all this based on what you wrote earlier.

Compared to that, Fujino's Asuna actually feels like a real person with principles and boundaries.

It's just that the discussion has shifted to the fact that Asuna allegedly has a reason for cheating in the form of how you said that Kirito did not fully consolidate Asuna's love. But Fujino's game begins with the fact that Asuna's status says "my dearest man, my future husband, we are going to America" and how inconsistent and stupid her actions look from this.
Asuna looks like a silly 14-year-old girl in this game:
"Asuna, show me your boobs!"
"What are you? I have a boyfriend!"
"I'm such a poor wretch, I've never seen boobs."
"Oh well, okay then. Look at this!"

"Asuna, help me massage my thighs."
"OK"
Kirito comes in, displeased. Asuna:
"How dare you not trust me? I'm the most loyal girl in the world!"
In a second:
"Asuna jerk me off. I'm suffering so much, we're friends."
"Ahhh, a friendly jerk off! Of course!"

"Oh, you raped me!"
"But I like you so much, I couldn't resist. Was it friendly?"
"Friendly rape? Well good. I forgive you, we're friends again, but don't bother me like that anymore."

"What if you give me a sexual favor every week for no reason? Just as a friend, because I'm so unhappy."
"Well, since we're friends, then fine"
A whisper in Asuna's head:
"You have a fiance, what are you doing?"
"Me? Nothing! It's all friendly, it's a special social help for people who don't have sex."

And this kind of crap goes on the whole game. I wrote that Fujino chose the stupidest NTR persona pattern possible. Asuna is cheating for no reason. Usually in games, the authors come up with something - the seal of lust, illness, blackmail (even Inoda and Kyoko's sex is better thought out than Asuna's betrayal), money debts. And the only reason Asuna has is that she is a stupid little bimbo in terms of her level of development.

Where is the "real person with principles and boundaries" in all of this? All of Asuna's principles and boundaries end where Inoda's desires are. And this has been going on since the beginning of the game in the first part, and continues to this day. However, this is no longer relevant, because Inoda has finally crushed Asuna's brain.

 

[Aniky Light]

Okay so saying 'Fairy Dance' never happen is just saying 'Kirito never went to ALO', which is fine. It means Asuna still ended up as Sugou's captive there, just that her father had her released somehow, but Sugou still went to jail from some reason. These are the scenes I mean.

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So what's going on here? I'll have to replay the games to remind myself of the context.

since when does Oberon wear a thong and since when are there cell phones in the game? xD

 

[ASDZXCQWER1321]

Seems you missed my Batman analogy’s point. That ‘he’s just a guy in a bat costume’ isn’t my take—it’s literally Justice League banter (Hal Jordan? Or was it Aquaman? Doesn’t matter). The core idea is: Bruce Wayne is human. A multi-billionaire detective genius who knows 127 martial arts still shouldn’t survive a casual punch from Darkseid. And yet, he’s done it multiple times. Yet in some stories he’s practically immortal. Why? Because writers said so. As long as it’s internally consistent—logical within its own story, sequels, and cross-media—it works. Invincible Superman trembles before tiny kryptonite. Phoenix Force Jean Grey gets stabbed by claws. Arthas defeated demonic Illidan. Yes, these things just happen. And why could canon Kirito break the system to get Dual Wielding in SAO? Why did he defeat Heathcliff, the literal game admin? Why did he and Asuna just happen to stumble upon Yui? Baby, why?

As for Inoda—so he’s got super luck and super dick. What’s the issue?

I don't think anyone has a problem. It's just that a part of the community thinks that the game is already in its final phase, and the development of Asuna Inoda's relationship is already over, and it can be concluded that this storyline of the game is extremely weak and mediocre (just an ordinary slut heroine, who, by Fujino's will, is more like skin than some kind of woman with character) for a game of quite a long duration.
the whole game starting from part 1 literally we go along the same path and the same dialogues.
Asuna: No, Inoda we will not do this
Inoda: WELL PLEASE I will be good

 

[mos555]

since when does Oberon wear a thong and since when are there cell phones in the game? xD

This is what is called the Fujino canon. Perhaps Oberon always wears a thong, even in the last scene where Kirito met him at the Council brothel.

 

[gaka200]

In regards to the progress update, I'm kind of neutral and don't really care rofl. I am overall less interested in the reports since there's not much to discuss. The Q&As are cool, though I don't expect to get much out of them since I'm not heavily invested in the things I'm going to guess Fujino will answer. Since my approach to the game overall was it being more parody focused, and having a loose connection and/or resemblance to SAO, I could more or less ignore a lot of issues that usually get brought up.

The only thing that really seemed to matter to me was that Asuna just needed to resist better than a typical NTR heroine and that was kind of good enough for me. Though I do think the soft reset dragged on the story too much. If anyone remembers me talking about it, it has less to do with the soft reset and more the Lustful Stormy Night being the problem. That scene happens too soon for how things were progressing.

Anyways we got another 6 weeks to goooooo. So I go back to sleep, since there's not much relevant stuff to talk about.

 

[Aniky Light]

This is what is called the Fujino canon. Perhaps Oberon always wears a thong, even in the last scene where Kirito met him at the Council brothel.

Oberon seems like a faggot to me xD

 

[mos555]

In regards to the progress update, I'm kind of neutral and don't really care rofl. I am overall less interested in the reports since there's not much to discuss. The Q&As are cool, though I don't expect to get much out of them since I'm not heavily invested in the things I'm going to guess Fujino will answer. Since my approach to the game overall was it being more parody focused, and having a loose connection and/or resemblance to SAO, I could more or less ignore a lot of issues that usually get brought up.

The only thing that really seemed to matter to me was that Asuna just needed to resist better than a typical NTR heroine and that was kind of good enough for me. Though I do think the soft reset dragged on the story too much. If anyone remembers me talking about it, it has less to do with the soft reset and more the Lustful Stormy Night being the problem. That scene happens too soon for how things were progressing.

Anyways we got another 6 weeks to goooooo. So I go back to sleep, since there's not much relevant stuff to talk about.

Good dreams, buddy. We are waiting for you in 6 weeks at first light, at dawn, from the east!

 

[Aniky Light]

more than a ntr game, it seems more like a stupid simulator, as if the game was based on making characters as stupid as possible

 

[mos555]

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Questo è ciò che viene chiamato il canone Fujino. Forse Oberon indossa sempre un perizoma, anche nell'ultima scena in cui Kirito lo incontra al bordello del Consiglio.
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Oberon seems like a faggot to me xD

Maybe he wants Kirito after all, not Asuna! And he wanted Asuna to leave Kirito, but Asuna's father prevented her.

What a good theory.

In general, his plan will work one way or another, but Sinon will not allow Kirito to be turned into a trap for Sugo.

 

[Aniky Light]

Perhaps he still wants Kirito more and wanted Asuna to leave Kirito, but Asuna's father prevented it.

What a good theory.

Oberon is angry with Kirito because he doesn't reciprocate his feelings
Oberon: How dare Kirito ignore me, I even put on a thong to be sexier for him, he's disappointing me and now I'm fucking his girlfriend, so he learns

 

[jwag12787]

In the final temple scene, the light orb representing Yui clearly bounced near Inoda's position—a reaction identical to when she recognized Kirito during the crystal-guiding sequence earlier. There's compelling evidence to suggest Yui will become Inoda's ally.

And this raises the next question. Won't that trigger something in the back of Kirito-cuck's mind that... wtf is she calling Inoda daddy for? That was the second outcome that I hope causes his obliviousness to fade at least a little bit. And of course I want to see Asuna's guilt watching it happen overwhelm her. But we shall see

 

[mos555]

And this raises the next question. Won't that trigger something in the back of Kirito-cuck's mind that... wtf is she calling Inoda daddy for? That was the second outcome that I hope causes his obliviousness to fade at least a little bit. And of course I want to see Asuna's guilt watching it happen overwhelm her. But we shall see

In fact, this situation with Yui has too much variation in the consequences. The most likely outcomes are
1. Inoda will order Yui to pretend that Kirito is her father and Kirito will not understand anything again.
2. Yui won't be born at all, because of some events.
3. The Administrator will be reborn instead of Yui. And she will behave as she pleases.
The probability that Yui will be born canonical and begin to open Kirito's eyes to the current situation is extremely low.

 

[jwag12787]

All of which disappoints me. But yes, it has alot of routes it can take. But, since we're approaching that I understand to be the last arc, I'd assume Yui is a catalyst of some kind? Of course, I could be mis-guaging how long the arc will be.

 

[mos555]

All of which disappoints me. But yes, it has alot of routes it can take. But, since we're approaching that I understand to be the last arc, I'd assume Yui is a catalyst of some kind? Of course, I could be mis-guaging how long the arc will be.

It depends on what Fujino has prepared for Yui. If Yui is reborn as an Administrator, then she will probably be important to the plot. If it's just Yui, then she's nothing more than a filler character to mark the connection between Inoda and Asuna.

 

[ASDZXCQWER1321]

more than a ntr game, it seems more like a stupid simulator, as if the game was based on making characters as stupid as possible

actually i have questions mostly about asuna and liz(she is even worse than asuna in my opinion), the rest of the characters are not bad for ntr's story. suguha - she was blackmailed, drugged, she enjoyed sex, but she knew hebeshima was a bad guy, and when she was able to get rid of the evidence, she left him, +- the same thing happened with sinon, she loved him in the beginning, she tolerated his betrayals for a while, didn't want to follow his example regarding suguha's issues, and in the end she left him and took revenge on him, alice - i don't like mind control as a tag, but here it was not bad, kyoko - pretty weak storyline, but okay

 

[Aniky Light]

It depends on what Fujino has prepared for Yui. If Yui is reborn as an Administrator, then she will probably be important to the plot. If it's just Yui, then she's nothing more than a filler character to mark the connection between Inoda and Asuna.

if Yui recognized Inoda as her father, then it's obvious that Quinella had a hand in it, I don't want Yui to be a filler but rather that it's the birth of the administrator in real life

 

[Aniky Light]

actually i have questions mostly about asuna and liz(she is even worse than asuna in my opinion), the rest of the characters are not bad for ntr's story. suguha - she was blackmailed, drugged, she enjoyed sex, but she knew hebeshima was a bad guy, and when she was able to get rid of the evidence, she left him, +- the same thing happened with sinon, she loved him in the beginning, she tolerated his betrayals for a while, didn't want to follow his example regarding suguha's issues, and in the end she left him and took revenge on him, alice - i don't like mind control as a tag, but here it was not bad, kyoko - pretty weak storyline, but okay

what do you tell me instead of Aduna?

 

[Aniky Light]

I wonder how the game would be if Asuna was the protagonist instead of Kirito like in the game Naughtyville Town Revelation