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highly unlikely, here Asuna and Inoda are in work clothes, why would they be in them when they get off the train?
plus it looks like the building where Kirito Inoda lives,maybe before after work scene, or even at work
Since Asuna didn’t have any proper clothes to wear during the quarantine period, it’s understandable that they wore business attire. As for the location where they had sex, it could have been at the train station or near Kirito’s apartment. For some reason, he had fallen asleep on the day Asuna returned by train, and Inoda had sex with Asuna while they were on their way back to his room.
 

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If it has to end badly for all the girls, then why did Fujino put admin and the council and what does Oberon have to do with it? Fujino puts these things for then in the end changes the cards on the table by sending all The girls at Inoda? Like he wants to see who feels better on his dick? Does he do it to make us jerk off? And the rest? If it doesn't matter anymore, why did he put it there? He creates plots for other girls and then what? Derail them towards Inoda?, it would be silly if Suguha ended up with Inoda, I say silly because with Asuna he took so long for Asuna to become Inoda's whore, while Suguha turns into a whore in 3 seconds just by looking at his dick? Oh, please!
 

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If it has to end badly for all the girls, then why did Fujino put admin and the council and what does Oberon have to do with it? Fujino puts these things for then in the end changes the cards on the table by sending all The girls at Inoda? Like he wants to see who feels better on his dick? Does he do it to make us jerk off? And the rest? If it doesn't matter anymore, why did he put it there? He creates plots for other girls and then what? Derail them towards Inoda?, it would be silly if Suguha ended up with Inoda, I say silly because with Asuna he took so long for Asuna to become Inoda's whore, while Suguha turns into a whore in 3 seconds just by looking at his dick? Oh, please!
Based upon the last update it seems Fujino is going to this direction, if you don't act (choose) as Kirito they will fall, and even if you act this dosen't mean that Kirito will not end up being cucked by them.
Fujino let clear they have knowledge about Inoda, they both talk shit about him calling him Pig, but he went further with Sinon when she said that she could trade Kirito for him because she heard about his "special talent" and in the bath scene with Sugu she said that she will leave, both because the same reason which is that Kirito keep refusing their advances.

It seems small but the "Pig" is how Inoda sees himself, he said the other girls don't look at him because of that, but Asuna said to him is just because they don't know how good he is in sex if they did that would change, so Fujino already left the "seed" planted in the plot, see Liz she was raped and still think about his dick.
Now it will be Inoda the one, is hard to say but from a simple perspective we don't have any other main male character
 

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Based upon the last update it seems Fujino is going to this direction, if you don't act (choose) as Kirito they will fall, and even if you act this dosen't mean that Kirito will not end up being cucked by them.
Fujino let clear they have knowledge about Inoda, they both talk shit about him calling him Pig, but he went further with Sinon when she said that she could trade Kirito for him because she heard about his "special talent" and in the bath scene with Sugu she said that she will leave, both because the same reason which is that Kirito keep refusing their advances.

It seems small but the "Pig" is how Inoda sees himself, he said the other girls don't look at him because of that, but Asuna said to him is just because they don't know how good he is in sex if they did that would change, so Fujino already left the "seed" planted in the plot, see Liz she was raped and still think about his dick.
Now it will be Inoda the one, is hard to say but from a simple perspective we don't have any other main male character
Suguha said she'd live alone, not with someone, and judging by how obsessive Kirito is becoming with his sister, I don't see why he should reject her. Then again, how does Sinon know about Inoda's performance? But what choices do we have, if all choices lead to a fat man?

Every choice determines an ending, they said. The result? All the broken-ass girls lying next to Inoda.
 

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That's the problem now every time Asuna have a dialogue with others characters about the affair we will get a new plot hole
Like in this example with Liz, Asuna was talking about the affair with Inoda in SAO and Liz was probably talking about the trauma they got stuck inside SAO which in her mind Asuna is using as excuse for cheating, if it's well done this "overlapping" can be used in revealing subtext, generating tension and move the plot foward, but if well done and that's is not the case here.

I think Fujino is running on fumes for a while now, but for some reason is stretching the story way more than he should.
The fact he push straight to 0.90 is the hint that he's tired and want to finish this game asap, but he said himself he would be 100% focused in develop this ending, so we have to wait and see.

And because of those "inconsistencies" like you said once again he left the door open for harem ending, because judging by the Sinon dialogue he is already creating the pretext for it.
What plot hole? I don’t see anything wrong with the conversation between Liz and Asuna. Honestly, I don’t really get what the issue is. On this forum, it feels like criticizing Fujino’s writing has become some kind of political correctness. If you compare it to most adult games that are full of dumb plot holes and clichés, Fujino’s story at least holds together and makes sense. So a lot of the comments here just come off as nitpicky or borderline cyberbullying.

And don’t forget—Fujino is Chinese. Maybe some of the parts you don’t agree with come down to cultural differences. But regardless, the story is engaging, it gets an emotional reaction from players, and like I said before, it’s internally consistent. That alone makes it a solid adult game story. Sure, it’s not perfect, but why hold Fujino—the guy putting out monthly updates—to standards way above the industry average?
 

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Suguha said she'd live alone, not with someone, and judging by how obsessive Kirito is becoming with his sister, I don't see why he should reject her. Then again, how does Sinon know about Inoda's performance? But what choices do we have, if all choices lead to a fat man?

Every choice determines an ending, they said. The result? All the broken-ass girls lying next to Inoda.
That is a very good question how Sinon knows about Inoda's performance?

I think it's related to the admin how she knows, also she is keeping tabs on Asuna and Inoda for a long time now, but i'm not sure if was in part 1 or part 2 but Inoda was fucking with a hooker and you could see the scene trough the peephole in Kirito's room, the hooker herself was suspicious similar to Sinon even using the same black mask of hers but like i said i'm not sure.

Fujino is setting the stage, we know Inoda is being target by Fox and Oberon now, and that could spoil the Admin plans because the affair between Inoda and Asuna is a part of it, if Sinon works for her she will be order to stop them and for that she will have to protect or at least keep Inoda busy, she will invite Inoda for one her videos and she will bring Sugu along.
Sugu will go because Sinon will convice her that is a good chance for her get a confession/proof from him about the affair with Asuna, he will fuck them both but since Sinon is a dominatrix sadist this could not end well for Inoda, the twist is Kirito in high lust mode showing up at the same time to see Inoda banging them both.
 

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That is a very good question how Sinon knows about Inoda's performance?

I think it's related to the admin how she knows, also she is keeping tabs on Asuna and Inoda for a long time now, but i'm not sure if was in part 1 or part 2 but Inoda was fucking with a hooker and you could see the scene trough the peephole in Kirito's room, the hooker herself was suspicious similar to Sinon even using the same black mask of hers but like i said i'm not sure.

Fujino is setting the stage, we know Inoda is being target by Fox and Oberon now, and that could spoil the Admin plans because the affair between Inoda and Asuna is a part of it, if Sinon works for her she will be order to stop them and for that she will have to protect or at least keep Inoda busy, she will invite Inoda for one her videos and she will bring Sugu along.
Sugu will go because Sinon will convice her that is a good chance for her get a confession/proof from him about the affair with Asuna, he will fuck them both but since Sinon is a dominatrix sadist this could not end well for Inoda, the twist is Kirito in high lust mode showing up at the same time to see Inoda banging them both.
I've always thought that if they want information from Inoda, they'll do it through sex, but I don't understand why Suguha has to participate? She knows what Inoda did, and what if she doesn't confess?
Sinon: It's better if you confess, otherwise you'll become a woman.
 
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That is a very good question how Sinon knows about Inoda's performance?

I think it's related to the admin how she knows, also she is keeping tabs on Asuna and Inoda for a long time now, but i'm not sure if was in part 1 or part 2 but Inoda was fucking with a hooker and you could see the scene trough the peephole in Kirito's room, the hooker herself was suspicious similar to Sinon even using the same black mask of hers but like i said i'm not sure.

Fujino is setting the stage, we know Inoda is being target by Fox and Oberon now, and that could spoil the Admin plans because the affair between Inoda and Asuna is a part of it, if Sinon works for her she will be order to stop them and for that she will have to protect or at least keep Inoda busy, she will invite Inoda for one her videos and she will bring Sugu along.
Sugu will go because Sinon will convice her that is a good chance for her get a confession/proof from him about the affair with Asuna, he will fuck them both but since Sinon is a dominatrix sadist this could not end well for Inoda, the twist is Kirito in high lust mode showing up at the same time to see Inoda banging them both.
Suguha knows about Inoda and Asuna's affair. Suguha and Sinon are now basically best friends who tell each other everything. Sinon also has a crystal ball that can pretty much monitor the entire FOG world.
So how did Sinon find out that Inoda has insane sexual skills? Damn, this is hard to guess.
 

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What plot hole? I don’t see anything wrong with the conversation between Liz and Asuna. Honestly, I don’t really get what the issue is. On this forum, it feels like criticizing Fujino’s writing has become some kind of political correctness. If you compare it to most adult games that are full of dumb plot holes and clichés, Fujino’s story at least holds together and makes sense. So a lot of the comments here just come off as nitpicky or borderline cyberbullying.

And don’t forget—Fujino is Chinese. Maybe some of the parts you don’t agree with come down to cultural differences. But regardless, the story is engaging, it gets an emotional reaction from players, and like I said before, it’s internally consistent. That alone makes it a solid adult game story. Sure, it’s not perfect, but why hold Fujino—the guy putting out monthly updates—to standards way above the industry average?
Well he did some poor choices, like memory manipulation (time travel) to move the plot for instance, like i said with that he put the effect(Asuna downfall) before the cause (Asuna affair), which is ilogical because now she believes in a long lost affair with inoda that never happen, and the the others characters have to play along. Like this example Liz were told by Asuna that she met Inoda first in FOG now that change.

If you put your work out and monetize it you should be open to criticism, his story is also full of cliches and most of the time hold it self togheter by the magical power of plot conviniences, like Inoda superpowers to avoid tension and confrontation which requires nuance to write.
 

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Suguha knows about Inoda and Asuna's affair. Suguha and Sinon are now basically best friends who tell each other everything. Sinon also has a crystal ball that can pretty much monitor the entire FOG world.
So how did Sinon find out that Inoda has insane sexual skills? Damn, this is hard to guess.
where you see friendship the plot shows a aliance by convinience, they kind want the same thing (Kirito) for different reasons, and to be fair Sinon motivations and goals are not clear so is hard to gauge her intentions.
It's not clear if the cristal ball can see everything that happens in FOG, i think she said the ball dosen't work all the time and have some limitations or time limit, either way you are right that could be how she knows as well.
but regardless the main thing now is that she is at least curious about Inoda sexual skills.
 

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Well he did some poor choices, like memory manipulation (time travel) to move the plot for instance, like i said with that he put the effect(Asuna downfall) before the cause (Asuna affair), which is ilogical because now she believes in a long lost affair with inoda that never happen, and the the others characters have to play along. Like this example Liz were told by Asuna that she met Inoda first in FOG now that change.

If you put your work out and monetize it you should be open to criticism, his story is also full of cliches and most of the time hold it self togheter by the magical power of plot conviniences, like Inoda superpowers to avoid tension and confrontation which requires nuance to write.
I don’t think the memory modification storyline was a mistake by the author. Fujino once said that when Asuna willingly had sex with Inoda in real life on July 12, the NTR part had already concluded. But because a lot of fans wanted the game to continue—and he himself wanted to carry on the story—he came up with a deeper, more intense NTR development.

NTR is short for netorare, a Japanese term that means taking a woman through sex. Inoda had already taken Asuna’s body and part of her heart—so what else was left? The answer is the irreplaceable memories she shared with Kirito during their time fighting together in SAO. That’s why this chapter is titled Netorare of the Yesteryear.
In Chapter 1, Inoda took Liz’s virginity.
In Chapter 2, he took Asuna’s body and heart.
In Chapter 3, he took the precious memories between Asuna and Kirito (even though he himself wasn’t aware of it).

The whole memory modification plot sparked widespread discussion among fans and even caused emotional breakdowns among veteran NTR fans. For an NTR game, that’s a clear sign the story hit its mark.

The memory rewrite only affected Asuna—it didn’t touch anyone else. This is obvious and also supported by several lines in the game. The memory thing isn’t some time-travel plot. When Asuna tells Liz the reason she’s with Inoda is due to pressure from their SAO days, Liz responds in the Chinese version with:
“我还以为你会找什么更好一点的借口。这还能怪到SAO吗?SAO,SAO…SAO……”
And in the English version, she says:
“I expected a better excuse than that. You're really blaming it all on SAO? SAO, SAO… always SAO…”

No matter which version, it’s clear she’s confused and skeptical about Asuna using SAO as a reason for cheating—because she has no idea Asuna’s memories were altered.
 

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I've always thought that if they want information from Inoda, they'll do it through sex, but I don't understand why Suguha has to participate? She knows what Inoda did, and what if she doesn't confess?
Sinon: It's better if you confess, otherwise you'll become a woman.
Sugu can try make him talk with the promise of sex
Remember one is a Sadist Dominatrix and the other a crazy Yandere so he's cooked.
 
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Sugu can try make him talk with the promise of sex
Remember one is a Sadist Dominatrix and the other a crazy Yandere so he's cooked.
I just hope they know what they're doing and not that once they sit on the dick, they forget who they are and what they were supposed to do
 
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Since Asuna didn’t have any proper clothes to wear during the quarantine period, it’s understandable that they wore business attire. As for the location where they had sex, it could have been at the train station or near Kirito’s apartment. For some reason, he had fallen asleep on the day Asuna returned by train, and Inoda had sex with Asuna while they were on their way back to his room.
of course it could be anything, but why would Inoda be in a cleaner's outfit, + Asuna was sent different clothes (maybe there are regular ones there too)
 
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That is a very good question how Sinon knows about Inoda's performance?

I think it's related to the admin how she knows, also she is keeping tabs on Asuna and Inoda for a long time now, but i'm not sure if was in part 1 or part 2 but Inoda was fucking with a hooker and you could see the scene trough the peephole in Kirito's room, the hooker herself was suspicious similar to Sinon even using the same black mask of hers but like i said i'm not sure.

Fujino is setting the stage, we know Inoda is being target by Fox and Oberon now, and that could spoil the Admin plans because the affair between Inoda and Asuna is a part of it, if Sinon works for her she will be order to stop them and for that she will have to protect or at least keep Inoda busy, she will invite Inoda for one her videos and she will bring Sugu along.
Sugu will go because Sinon will convice her that is a good chance for her get a confession/proof from him about the affair with Asuna, he will fuck them both but since Sinon is a dominatrix sadist this could not end well for Inoda, the twist is Kirito in high lust mode showing up at the same time to see Inoda banging them both.
this is definitely not synon in that scene, there is another girl who then appears 1-2 more times in the game.
 
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Sugu can try make him talk with the promise of sex
Remember one is a Sadist Dominatrix and the other a crazy Yandere so he's cooked.
well that's weird too, it's in the spirit of NTR, but how does she plan to show this to Kirito? she can just hire some bullies and beat him up and make him confess or threaten him, well literally anything.
And Sinon doesn't seem to be interested in Inoda's dick, maybe she was just trolling Kirito, or maybe the administrator is hinting to her that she should try, but why if she can order
 

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where you see friendship the plot shows a aliance by convinience, they kind want the same thing (Kirito) for different reasons, and to be fair Sinon motivations and goals are not clear so is hard to gauge her intentions.
It's not clear if the cristal ball can see everything that happens in FOG, i think she said the ball dosen't work all the time and have some limitations or time limit, either way you are right that could be how she knows as well.
but regardless the main thing now is that she is at least curious about Inoda sexual skills.
Sinon is just a supporting character—there’s no way Fujino could give every one of her actions a full, acted-out scene. That’s why the hints and implications scattered throughout her storylines are exactly how Fujino chose to convey his intentions.
Sinon is the head of security and special ops within the antagonist organization. It’s not strange at all that she has intelligence-gathering abilities second only to Shadow Fox. The crystal ball scene with Kirito showed the player how that item works.
In the previous version, there was clear interaction between Sinon and Suguha that showed their friendly relationship—Sinon even had a heart emoji pop up in one of the lines. In the recent dual footjob scene, there was a moment where Sinon gave Suguha a suggestive look.
Sinon’s initial interest in Kirito actually came from her jealousy of Suguha, so honestly, if they eventually end up having a lesbian storyline together, I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
 
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