VN Ren'Py Abandoned Symbol of Tanit [v0.1 Silver] [Mars Dog Invasion]

[leo mandaloufas]

god damn it.. 5 years old girls... is this artist sick??

 

[Kira77]

god damn it.. 5 years old girls... is this artist sick?

They don't even look like lolis, even then there is no real need to be that rude.

I will probably wait for a few more versions until I play the game.

 

[Konstantinus]

They don't even look like lolis, even then there is no real need to be that rude.

I will probably wait for a few more versions until I play the game.

I wait until it is german again.

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

So some comments. Be aware i havnt played the game.

The art is ok, but could use some improvements. Aforementioned backgrounds are one, having a modern picture just made blurry and used as a BG might go for alpha builds, but try to find some good replacements when you have the story and some decent content in.

Next, historical accuracy. As said before, some scenes show the characters wearing clothes in a slightly wrong way. Take the Palla, here is a picture example of some clothing, including the palla:

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As you can see the palla is a sort of extra garnment worn over the regular womens toga, simmilar to what men would also wear (Pallium). There is also a strophium (equivelent to a bra) and some examples of footwear. Also notice how the neckline is often straight and high on the toga. If anything, a deeper neckline if at all present in ancient rome, as well as short, above the knee, dress length, was something only seen in low class "prostitutes".

As on that topic, be aware that protitution was around, but it had various layers and was never realy called that (prostitution is a more modern invented name) but low class "protitutes" are often if not exclusively slaves. Similar to greek sociëty, women of higher class that engaged in prostitution usualy didnt wear such scandelous (for the time) clothes, and can be meassured more akin to expensive call girls in modern days.

So for a married women to wear the currently depicted short dress would be highly unheard of, and probely something the main character would have to work her up to before she would start wearing it.

Take these points and perhaps make use of it to improve the setting of your game, or ignore it..... it is your game after all. Good luck with the development, and maybe i will try it out at a later stage.

PS: Indeed dont be discouraged by me or anyone else, it's your first game, so take it as a learning experience. Ignore us if you disagree

We actually adjusted that with update 0.55. The main character is now fully and historically properly dressed when she goes out.

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

I wait until it is german again.

I'm afraid the German translation will take a while. We will first complete the game in English and then translate it into German. If we find enough supporters, a French and a Spanish translation could also be possible.

 

[Konstantinus]

I'm afraid the German translation will take a while. We will first complete the game in English and then translate it into German. If we find enough supporters, a French and a Spanish translation could also be possible.

Well then I need to wait until it is done.

 

[esoom]

god damn it.. 5 years old girls... is this artist sick??

Come on, she must at least be 12 she has breasts.

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

Come on, she must at least be 12 she has breasts.

Thanks for your feedback,

we take this point very seriously. Even though my drawing skills are still rather limited, I tried to draw adult women. I think it's because of the big eyes and unpropercially big heads (typical manga style) that make a very young impression for some players. We started to adjust the head sizes in the previous graphics to avoid this impression. Here is an example of an optimized version.
I really like to hear from you what age you value the protagonists.

 

[Konstantinus]

Thanks for your feedback,

we take this point very seriously. Even though my drawing skills are still rather limited, I tried to draw adult women. I think it's because of the big eyes and unpropercially big heads (typical manga style) that make a very young impression for some players. We started to adjust the head sizes in the previous graphics to avoid this impression. Here is an example of an optimized version.
I really like to hear from you what age you value the protagonists.

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I would say 15 +/- 1 year. By the way, in ancient Rome a girl whas legally grown up with 12 years. Men where free from the patria potestas with 14 years though they need to be at least 16 for being able to enter Auxiliar or Legion. So yeah like in japan she could be theoretically sexed with 12 years already.

 

[Rhazes]

I just need to know one thing before I download. Is their scenes of Legionnaires marching in formation and in shield wall formation wearing lorica segmentata? If not please, just a few and a bit of story for immersion.

Thanks for your feedback,

we take this point very seriously. Even though my drawing skills are still rather limited, I tried to draw adult women. I think it's because of the big eyes and unpropercially big heads (typical manga style) that make a very young impression for some players. We started to adjust the head sizes in the previous graphics to avoid this impression. Here is an example of an optimized version.
I really like to hear from you what age you value the protagonists.

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Protagonist age depends on the story. If you plan on him sitting around the house living off his families wealth being a drunkard and banging slaves etc make him young if you are going to write politics, warfare and have him from a privileged start and choices into it make him at least 25. Of course if he is conscripted and makes a name from his actions and choices you can start him out around 16 and age him up during the story.. I prefer my second option but the third is great as well.

Please tell me there will be more to it than just sex? politics, warfare and acquisitions with some choices would be great to add to the story.

I'm downloading now to check it out I hope the story is interesting from an immersive perspective.

Seriously, tho, with Rome politics+warfare is > than just banging slaves and finding a wife. Give me a bit of that Rome series from HBO type of story but from a lesser man than Caesar or Mark Anthony working their way up. Although a Mark Anthony type of story would be cool. Sorry, I'm just bored of sitting in a house banging my sisters and mom. Rome or Vampire VNs with immersive writing would be like caviar to me at the moment.

 

[esoom]

It's only a cartoon womans who cares. Women and men back then were smaller anyway due to their diet so they would appear younger by todays standards.

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

It would be nice to find supporters who write a review for the game. Unfortunately, the only 2 reviews of our game come from the early days when the game was still very unfinished.
I have created a special Silver_PLUS version as a reward for all who write a review within the next 2 months or promote our game in another forum.
Just send me a message (with a link if it is on another website) and I will send you the Link to download.

 

[Crazygamer43]

Op: Updated !

 

[9inchz]

the title
& this
so what made the developer do this? what triggers him?

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

the title
& this
so what made the developer do this? what triggers him?

I like to create a game.
I like the ancient world.
I like consensual BDSM. (Things that are legal in many countries)
I don't like rape and things like that.
These preferences drove me to make the game.

I know the art design could be even better.
We are currently looking for an artist to redraw the characters. If anyone reads this and is interested, please let me know.

 

[Cumknuckles]

god damn it.. 5 years old girls... is this artist sick??

I really like to hear from you what age you value the protagonists.

I think showing the male protagonist too would go a long way towards putting her in perspective.

Anyway I really like the game and mainly just wish there were more stages for each of the sexual acts, ideally going into more detail about how exactly the guy convinces her to do whatever it is they are doing.
Also it's not terribly important but could something be done to make the buttons at the bottom more visible? The grey font makes them really blend in during many scenes.

I know the art design could be even better.
We are currently looking for an artist to redraw the characters. If anyone reads this and is interested, please let me know.

Personally I like the art, it's cute, works and doesn't look the same as every other porn game so I'd say stick with the current art unless going with a different style would be less expensive time or money wise.

 

[macadam]

if i may give a little advice for the dev.

when you make a post about real life stuff, like a bad news or a good news or something... not directly related to the game (but may impact the speed of developing or else) but something considered as "personal life".

i honestly and seriously advise you to post that as a "public" post. and not as a patreon post.

just keep in mind that, many many people love the game, but arent patrons, some just follow...some just dont say anythig ... some just "like" the messages etc.

but more importantly, this is important to share with everybody. because in case you lost like 2 weeks because something bad happen (like family troubles, money troubles or just like electricity went out in the neighbor because a dog pee on a line that was digged out due to road management work....anyway, everyhting possible), only the patrons will know about it, and many many people who play the game will wonder why nothing happen during this time, why you take more time to release an update, etc.
and they will lost interest in the game and start having doubt about your capability, relation with community and else.

so my advice is to post "private life" post as "public" and not "patron only", that way everybody know what's going on and wont wonder clueless about the reasons of possible slow.

it also show your love to the community, so dont hesitate to post more stuff as "public" to keep contact with people that just discover the game or enjoy it but have no clue what's the plan.

i dont ask you to copy me (dont do that lol), i usually post everything public (except nudity). But i think its important to also have contact with "outside" people that arent patrons. it even help to get more patrons sometime , and who doesnt like to have news about a game you enjoy, but cant because of patrons only lock ?.... nobody !

dont hesitate to post news and stuff publicly too. no big spoil or else, but a bit of infos

just a small advice... now... i m out because people gonna start to kick me for posting such a huge text wall XD

GL

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

I think showing the male protagonist too would go a long way towards putting her in perspective.
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Anyway I really like the game and mainly just wish there were more stages for each of the sexual acts, ideally going into more detail about how exactly the guy convinces her to do whatever it is they are doing.
Also it's not terribly important but could something be done to make the buttons at the bottom more visible? The grey font makes them really blend in during many scenes.

Personally I like the art, it's cute, works and doesn't look the same as every other porn game so I'd say stick with the current art unless going with a different style would be less expensive time or money wise.

Thank you for your message and your positive review. Nothing boosts my motivation more than a few nice words. In the last few weeks I have assembled a small team which is further expanding the Storry and improving the graphics in line with the old style. I hope i can show a new version in the next few days.

 

[mars_dog_invasion]

if i may give a little advice for the dev.

when you make a post about real life stuff, like a bad news or a good news or something... not directly related to the game (but may impact the speed of developing or else) but something considered as "personal life".

i honestly and seriously advise you to post that as a "public" post. and not as a patreon post.

just keep in mind that, many many people love the game, but arent patrons, some just follow...some just dont say anythig ... some just "like" the messages etc.

but more importantly, this is important to share with everybody. because in case you lost like 2 weeks because something bad happen (like family troubles, money troubles or just like electricity went out in the neighbor because a dog pee on a line that was digged out due to road management work....anyway, everyhting possible), only the patrons will know about it, and many many people who play the game will wonder why nothing happen during this time, why you take more time to release an update, etc.
and they will lost interest in the game and start having doubt about your capability, relation with community and else.

so my advice is to post "private life" post as "public" and not "patron only", that way everybody know what's going on and wont wonder clueless about the reasons of possible slow.

it also show your love to the community, so dont hesitate to post more stuff as "public" to keep contact with people that just discover the game or enjoy it but have no clue what's the plan.

i dont ask you to copy me (dont do that lol), i usually post everything public (except nudity). But i think its important to also have contact with "outside" people that arent patrons. it even help to get more patrons sometime , and who doesnt like to have news about a game you enjoy, but cant because of patrons only lock ?.... nobody !

dont hesitate to post news and stuff publicly too. no big spoil or else, but a bit of infos

just a small advice... now... i m out because people gonna start to kick me for posting such a huge text wall XD

GL

Thank you for your tips. I know that I do not communicate much with my community at the moment. I plan to change that. We enlarged the team and started a Discord channel:

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so that we can give more insight into the plans and current situation.

 

[rf96]

So this is the remake of For Rome, with a professional artist and a writer.