Unity Taffy Tales [S5 v1.07.3c] [UberPie]

[davipitons]

No voy a debatir si Darnell tiene o no méritos o es un alma perdida. Sin embargo, algunos de los puntos que haces sobre Darnell podrían decirse sobre la personalidad roja del MC, y solo si el jugador elige que la personalidad original del MC se enfrente a Red, muestra preocupación y preocupación por las personas en su propia vida y no simplemente para salvarlos para sí mismo para poner su polla en cada agujero. Una persona con experiencia en consejería podría argumentar que si el jugador permitiera que Red hiciera lo que la personalidad quería, los comportamientos, actitudes y pensamientos del MC serían considerados un narcisista sociópata. En este momento, Red solo está ligeramente controlado. Por lo tanto, otros podrían argumentar que, si bien el MC está bajo la influencia de Red, gran parte de la misma retribución que se busca para Darnell también debería hacerse para el MC.

Sí recuerdo la escena que mencionas, en la que Darnell resulta herido. Yo, por supuesto, no puedo encontrarlo de inmediato para obtener la escena completa. Encontré el diálogo en los activos.
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Y, desde lostraven hace 4 años atrás - #6,769 - esto parece haber sido considerado el punto de entrada para la tercera ruta, aún por comenzar, la Ruta de la Amistad (compartir). Darnell parece ser un personaje clave en cada una de las tres rutas, por lo que la ruta de la venganza probablemente sería darle unas buenas patadas. Eso fue tan temprano en la historia, estamos hablando de v0.11.2a (!) Antes de cualquiera de las "megaactualizaciones", que no sería nada debilitante porque está en la ruta principal desde entonces. Especialmente ahora que el MC tiene la mira puesta en llevarse tanto a la hermana de Darnell como a su madre.

No te deshaces de un némesis en la historia a menos que tengas algo aún más atroz esperando entre bastidores. Eso, o está en el clímax y la resolución de la historia, por lo que la gente se queda atrapada con Darnell a lo largo de las tres rutas a menos que la narrativa ya complicada se pliegue por completo sobre sí misma. Por mucho que algunos desprecien por completo a Darnell, deberían esperar que permanezca en la historia hasta el final porque podría empeorar muchísimo.

Nunca dije que Darnell es un santo. Dije que deberías considerar relajar el lenguaje violento o considerar jugar un juego/VN diferente.

Deshacerse de Darnell no sucederá a menos que sea el final de la historia o Uberpie tenga planeado algo más destructivo. Véase más arriba.


Espera, ¿estás jugando INTENCIONALMENTE en la ruta Netorare (NTR) y quejándote de eso? Todo lo que tiene que hacer es NO JUGAR la Ruta Netorare OPCIONAL , y la mayor parte de su dolor desaparecerá. Santa mierda tío.

No pones la mano en medio de una fogata y luego te quejas de cómo el fuego te quemó la mano. No metas la mano en el fuego y no juegues una ruta opcional de Netorare (NTR) si tanto te duele. Sentido común.
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Es porque es contenido que se pierde en esa ruta que es curioso ver lo que hicieron con ese tiempo.

 

[mrttao]

I'm not going to debate whether or not Darnell has merits or is a lost soul. However, some of the points you make about Darnell could be said about the Red personality of the MC - and only if the player chooses to have the original personality of the MC stand up to Red, does he show concern and caring about the people in his own life and not just simply to save them for himself to put his dick in their every hole. A person with a background in counseling could make the case that if the player allowed Red to do what the personality wanted, the MC behaviors, attitudes, and thoughts would be considered a sociopathic narcissist. Right now Red is only slightly reigned in. And so others could make the argument that while the MC is under Red's influence, much of the same retribution sought for Darnell should also be done for the MC.

Red unchecked can be quite the bastard.
Although even at his worst, red is not quite as bad.
I just reviewed every scene in ch1-4.

1. Red repeatedly puts his life in danger to protect the girls.
2. There are multiple scenes where becca goes "I am not ready yet", and red holds back and does not forcibly take her cherry. Likewise for some other girls.

And, from lostraven back 4 years ago - #6,769 - this appears to have been considered the entry point for the third route, yet to be started, the Friendship (sharing) Route.

I genuinely can't imagine how such a route can be viable without a rewrite for Darnell.
... maybe the MC decides to join in on tgang raping Becca and MC and Darnell bond over it.
I seriously doubt this is how they plan it.
I imagine if such a route ever comes they will rewrite darnell to be less criminal and more chad.

 

[Count Morado]

Red unchecked can be quite the bastard.
Although even at his worst, red is not quite as bad.
I just reviewed every scene in ch1-4.

1. Red repeatedly puts his life in danger to protect the girls.
2. There are multiple scenes where becca goes "I am not ready yet", and red holds back and does not forcibly take her cherry. Likewise for some other girls.

I genuinely can't imagine how such a route can be viable without a rewrite for Darnell.
... maybe the MC decides to join in on tgang raping Becca and MC and Darnell bond over it.
I seriously doubt this is how they plan it.
I imagine if such a route ever comes they will rewrite darnell to be less criminal and more chad.

Red does so because he wants the women for himself. All to himself. It's not out of compassion - it's out of greed. Any compassion you might see by the MC is from the original personality (Blue) - not Red. Happy sex slaves are thankful sex slaves. Unhappy, sad sex slaves are a nuisance at best.

I don't want to search all the scenes you are summing up - but if you can tell me one of the tasks near the scenes you are talking about, I'd be happy to look them up.

As for the third route - it's been part of the game plan since Day 1 of development. Just like the Netorare (NTR) Route. There have been three routes planned since the spring of 2018. The implementation of how the routes start have appeared to change over the years - but yes, at some point in the third route, the OPTIONAL Friendship (Sharing) Route, people will be able to build Eiffel Towers with Darnell.

 

[mrttao]

Wait, you're INTENTIONALLY playing the Netorare (NTR) Route and bitching about it? All you got to do is NOT PLAY the OPTIONAL Netorare Route, and most of your pain is gone. Holy fucking shit dude.

Not all NTR fans are into having their waifu raped by a two bit thug.
Plenty want an alpha male chad to seduce the waifu and make the willing cuckold feel inadequate that she chose the other (superior) guy.

Amusingly, this is the case with "Cucky" in the game.
Who wants you to show physical dominance in the gym before fucking his wife in front of his eyes while calling him cucky

 

[mrttao]

Red does so because he wants the women for himself. All to himself. It's not out of compassion - it's out of greed. Any compassion you might see by the MC is from the original personality (Blue) - not Red. Happy sex slaves are thankful sex slaves. Unhappy, sad sex slaves are a nuisance at best.

I don't want to search all the scenes you are summing up - but if you can tell me one of the tasks near the scenes you are talking about, I'd be happy to look them up.

I think you are assuming a bit much about his motives.
Plus at the end of the day red does have to coexist with blue as well, as they are both parts of the same person.
So even if you choose to minimally check him, there are still some checks.

And regardless of his motives, the end result is different.
It is like lawful evil vs chaotic evil.
Chaotic evil burns your town the ground and slaughters everyone.
Lawful evil makes the town prosperous for selfish reasons (he owns it).

You can argue that both have wicked motives. But that bit in ones brain of "I want to rule a prosperous town / happy and willing slavegirl waifu" makes all the difference.

 

[Count Morado]

Not all NTR fans are into having their waifu raped by a two bit thug.
Plenty want an alpha male chad to seduce the waifu and make the willing cuckold feel inadequate that she chose the other (superior) guy.

Amusingly, this is the case with "Cucky" in the game.
Who wants you to show physical dominance in the gym before fucking his wife in front of his eyes while calling him cucky

Some people are confusing the various types of what the three letters NTR mean.

Netorare (which is the Netorare route of this VN) - means the protagonist doesn't like getting cheated upon.
Netorase (which is Harry's thing - and could be what some of the Friendship/Sharing route will be) - means the protagonist approves and may even get off on their partner fucking others. ** The modern cucking **
Netori (which is part of the Main Route) - is when the protagonist is fucking other people's partners, with or without permission.

I think you are assuming a bit much about his motives.
Plus at the end of the day red does have to coexist with blue as well, as they are both parts of the same person.
So even if you choose to minimally check him, there are still some checks.

And regardless of his motives, the end result is different.
It is like lawful evil vs chaotic evil.
Chaotic evil burns your town the ground and slaughters everyone.
Lawful evil makes the town prosperous for selfish reasons (he owns it).

You can argue that both have wicked motives. But that bit in ones brain of "I want to rule a prosperous town / happy and willing slavegirl waifu" makes all the difference.

I can appreciate your mental gymnastics in justifying - but in the end, lawful v. chaotic is no different for everyone else around the person causing the destruction. Darth Vader is Lawful Evil. Pennywise is Chaotic Evil. It only matters what that person gets in the end. They are both evil. They are both nefarious. They are both greedy. They are both needy. In one, the evil person gets all the spoils. In the other, no one gets all the spoils.

The only redeeming feature of the MC is that the original personality seems to be gaining strength. It's a classic good v. evil - intrapersonally, within the character, as well as interpersonally, in terms with how the town will end up in the resolution of the MC's own personal inner battle.

(edited to put two posts into one)

 

[mrttao]

Some people are confusing the various types of what the three letters NTR mean.

Netorare (which is the Netorare route of this VN) - means the protagonist doesn't like getting cheated upon.
Netorase (which is Harry's thing - and could be what some of the Friendship/Sharing route will be) - means the protagonist approves and may even get off on their partner fucking others. ** The modern cucking **
Netori (which is part of the Main Route) - is when the protagonist is fucking other people's partners, with or without permission.

1. game only says NTR and dev does not visit this site.

2. you are conflating players and MC. every [netorare] player is willingly roleplaying as an unwilling main character.

3. even in [netorare] is there is a difference between a chad seducing your girl, and her being gang raped. different strokes for different folks. Not every single [netorare] fan is into having his girl gang raped.

 

[Count Morado]

1. game only says NTR and dev does not visit this site.

2. you are conflating players and MC. every [netorare] player is willingly roleplaying as an unwilling main character.

3. even in [netorare] is there is a difference between a chad seducing your girl, and her being gang raped. different strokes for different folks. Not every single [netorare] fan is into having his girl gang raped.

1. It's something I've repeated time after time in this thread.
2. I am not conflating. You are correct in the second sentence.
3. Correct. And that is one reason why I have stated - again, time and again in this thread - that this may not be the game/VN for some people. Even if they are fans of "NTR." Uberpie's M.O. has been very obvious from day one of what kind of Netorare he enjoys - from the first scene with Becca, to how Darnell interacts with Mary, to how he treats Tiffany, and to how he takes advantage of Mary when she appears to be under control (though, isn't). And I've stated that he misuses the abbreviation of NTR in at least one scene in v0.89.8 (Seasons 1-4).

One can make valid, constructive criticisms of the handling of Netorare, Netorase, Netori and have fruitful discussions about storyline, interpretation, rising conflict, short lines of tension, long lines of tension, resolution, etc. but "OMG - the dev needs to kill xyz" is none of the above. And that is what prompted my reply to the person above. And that was before I thought it just meant he was playing the regular game, not the Netorare (NTR) Route.

It's obvious that the person is not a fan of Netorare, but continued playing an optional route that made him feel very uncomfortable instead of stopping and deciding that 'nope that's not the route for me.' Again, it's like putting your hand into the fire and then blaming the heat for burning your hand. You can pull it out of the fire at any time. The power is - literally - in your hand.

 

[mrttao]

Correct. And that is one reason why I have stated - again, time and again in this thread - that this may not be the game/VN for some people. Even if they are fans of "NTR." Uberpie's M.O. has been very obvious from day one of what kind of Netorare he enjoys - from the first scene with Becca, to how Darnell interacts with Mary, to how he treats Tiffany, and to how he takes advantage of Mary when she appears to be under control (though, isn't). And I've stated that he misuses the abbreviation of NTR in at least one scene in v0.89.8 (Seasons 1-4).

You know what, you are right.
I mistook you as criticizing that guy. But genuinely some games are not for everyone.
As you say, uberpie is going for a kind of implementation that is not for everyone.

It's obvious that the person is not a fan of Netorare, but continued playing an optional route that made him feel very uncomfortable instead of stopping and deciding that 'nope that's not the route for me.'

I don't agree with this part, it even conflicts with what you said in the paragraph prior.
Someone can be into netorare, but not into this specific kind of netorare.
Don't go dismissing him as "someone who dislikes netorare" just because he dislikes this kind.
A "this game is aiming at a specific kind. so it might not be for you" would suffice without invoking a "you are not a true fan"

You can pull it out of the fire at any time. The power is - literally - in your hand.

While true, it sounds like he would be ok with it if we could get rid of darnell.
And IIRC the game had (or does it still have?) placeholder choices for doing just that.
As I mentioned before, there is the scene where darnell is unconscious on the side of the road after losing the drugs he was supposed to sell.

 

[Count Morado]

Don't go dismissing him as "someone who dislikes netorare" just because he dislikes this kind.

I took the time to look at the other half dozen games he's posted in before I stated that. This is the only game that has a netorare tag. So I am making an assumption based upon that. If I am wrong, I apologize. However, I do stand beside that it was his choice to keep playing when he was obviously becoming so agitated that he thought he needed to exclaim not once, but several times, that the dev should kill the character.

without invoking a "you are not a true fan"

I didn't say that, I didn't imply that. I made the assumption I mention above based upon a quick review of where he appears to be active in his previous posts because I was curious after it was revealed that he played the Netorare (NTR) Route even after it made him feel so uncomfortable.

And IIRC the game had (or does it still have?) placeholder choices for doing just that.
As I mentioned before, there is the scene where darnell is unconscious on the side of the road after losing the drugs he was supposed to sell.

And as I mentioned in my reply to when you brought it up - that was in v0.11.2a, four years ago.

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[adude21222]

how do i redo the game from the start

 

[Count Morado]

how do i redo the game from the start

Load the version you want to start at the beginning and click "New Game" - same as you did the first time you played it.

 

[Count Morado]

...

I know it's your first post, but you're quoting a post from 2022 about something 5 updates ago in early 2021 that has no bearing on the current version. Also, there will never be any bestiality as long as Uberpie promotes Taffy Tales on Patreon. As for cuckolding/Netorare/Netorase - it's been in the plan since day one and the separate Netorare (NTR) Route just started development this most recent update. If you want to know more, read the last 2 pages.

 

[xyzaxis]

please tell mc kills or beats up darnell

and please dont have darnell sleep or have sex with mc mom

get him out game already guy is annoying let evil side mc kill him already

LMFAOOOOOO

 

[thedevilbank]

man yous missed whole point what i as talking about but im let it go im not going start arguments over a game

 

[TailsYcs]

The guys arguing and killing each other over a game and me wanting to know when the next update is coming so I can punch a big handjob

 

[Lucas90251]

The guys arguing and killing each other over a game and me wanting to know when the next update is coming so I can punch a big handjob

not soon for all we know

 

[Bruhmoment.mp4]

damn....all that effort in this version goes to waste

 

[thedevilbank]

damn....all that effort in this version goes to waste

yup becoming a soap opera

 

[mangagamer101]

yup becoming a soap opera

just like your comments on this game.