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There is no denying that the current environment produces more bad games then one wherein the Patreon model would not exist. It also produces more GOOD games too.Thank you for your input. Again - I get the feeling you are not addressing my points. I won't really comment on yours because I mostly agree - at least about your segment regarding skills.
I specifically wrote how your first game should not be an awesome masterpiece. Yet you seem to misrepresent my points by implying I was calling for a "polished" first game. It is possible to make a good game without being an expert in all the fields you lay out. And I would much rather pay 20 bucks up front and get a great, rounded gaming experience down the road than spend 40 over 3 years and get a bloated mess bit by bit.
If you could give your thoughts on the underlying point I was trying to make - that the current environment leads to subpar games - I would very much like to hear them. We can argue from now until the end of times about the nitty gritty details so I would much rather broaden the discussion. I have argued that the way wegs are made and distributed today makes to many unfinished and money grabbing games and the ones that do finished are worse of for it. And please let's keep it civilised.
See, what the Patreon model does effectively is lower the barrier of entry. If you can slap together a 0.1 then you have a shot of getting income and then converting it into a real game. Before, the only people who could realistically make porn games of note were folks with money. And they wouldnn't have done so because a market exists.
Did you need to have money lying around in order to make a shitty 0.1 quality demo? Not really, but you needed time. You couldn't do it if you had a job. And you would never expect to make any money. It was for hobbyists only.
But, Patreon means any game can potentially be a big earner, if you can market it right and show ability early. Suddenly, people can devote time and resources. Furthermore, it provides incentives for SOME income put in early. 5K might not make a great game on its own but you can make a pretty decent demo that way.
So, yes. If Patreon didn't exist, the proportion of good H-games to bad H-games would weigh higher. But, that's because there'd be less games, and the low budget low effort ones wold evaporate away. But, you'd also lose a massive number of good games too. And the survivors would be badly damaged by the loss in audience.
There is no mythical world where all the good game devs naturally would rise from the bottom through years of labor and the bad ones would fall off. Games take money. And if people without capital can't get money for their games, you get less games. Straight up.