T51bwinterized

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Thank you for your input. Again - I get the feeling you are not addressing my points. I won't really comment on yours because I mostly agree - at least about your segment regarding skills.

I specifically wrote how your first game should not be an awesome masterpiece. Yet you seem to misrepresent my points by implying I was calling for a "polished" first game. It is possible to make a good game without being an expert in all the fields you lay out. And I would much rather pay 20 bucks up front and get a great, rounded gaming experience down the road than spend 40 over 3 years and get a bloated mess bit by bit.

If you could give your thoughts on the underlying point I was trying to make - that the current environment leads to subpar games - I would very much like to hear them. We can argue from now until the end of times about the nitty gritty details so I would much rather broaden the discussion. I have argued that the way wegs are made and distributed today makes to many unfinished and money grabbing games and the ones that do finished are worse of for it. And please let's keep it civilised.
There is no denying that the current environment produces more bad games then one wherein the Patreon model would not exist. It also produces more GOOD games too.

See, what the Patreon model does effectively is lower the barrier of entry. If you can slap together a 0.1 then you have a shot of getting income and then converting it into a real game. Before, the only people who could realistically make porn games of note were folks with money. And they wouldnn't have done so because a market exists.

Did you need to have money lying around in order to make a shitty 0.1 quality demo? Not really, but you needed time. You couldn't do it if you had a job. And you would never expect to make any money. It was for hobbyists only.

But, Patreon means any game can potentially be a big earner, if you can market it right and show ability early. Suddenly, people can devote time and resources. Furthermore, it provides incentives for SOME income put in early. 5K might not make a great game on its own but you can make a pretty decent demo that way.

So, yes. If Patreon didn't exist, the proportion of good H-games to bad H-games would weigh higher. But, that's because there'd be less games, and the low budget low effort ones wold evaporate away. But, you'd also lose a massive number of good games too. And the survivors would be badly damaged by the loss in audience.

There is no mythical world where all the good game devs naturally would rise from the bottom through years of labor and the bad ones would fall off. Games take money. And if people without capital can't get money for their games, you get less games. Straight up.
 

rangaru

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It feels like MC is becoming more polite and compassionate.
I agree with that. Player is forced to tell Clara that he loves her. Red personality also seems to care for Danny without any reason. I do understand that dev team had limited time and resources but personaly I would prefer smaller update but with more choices. I don't see the reason why MC must be so nice to Danny. He is a main cuckold character in ntr story ffs, he deserves some humiliation.
 

Yokoroko1337

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anyone has a full save? For the life of me, i can't unlock the other scenes/CG for some reason. tried all the choices.
 

Kakato

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Feb 25, 2017
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Been more than one year I didn't play this one. Waited for Mary content for months, till I gave up on it. Is there any progression with her ? I played it only for her and Becca (which I know got some progress, by reading a few comments).
 
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This update went deep into left field. We went from a dude with an extra horny personality to spy shit and now I have a gun and I'm being blackmailed by a secretive organization that is basically the fucking SCP group except in porn game form and they have Becca and I have to go rescue her and what the actual fuck is this.
 

Deleted member 15555

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this is the only game i dont have in my ignore list that is going to have ntr, though if im honest i will ignore it after they start making the ntr content, so may i suggest UberPie that you add all scenes to gallery , i did notice there is a few scenes missing (like danny scenes etc) and it will be nice if almost all the sex scenes are repeatable like gerdas bootycall or becca sex in the bathroom, maybe you can edit that after you complete the non ntr route so that people can play the sex scenes again in the game like sandbox and slightly edit the text so that it matchs the actual relationship of the mc and the girls etc, it seems like a waste to not reuse those scenes since the game can use that kind of sandbox (like summertime saga does with all sex scenes)

(also i did noticed a bug, if after completing all quest except the raw fuck jessica scene you go to danny/clara house you wont be able to leave, the mc will keep saying i cant leave yet....also you can actually fuck raw jessica any day if you visit her house and press the 2 choice , even if there is no text you cant still press the choices)
 
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cheze

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Jun 12, 2017
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Game doesn't even start for me for some reason? I've downloaded it twice thinking maybe I downloaded the wrong file but it opens for a second and goes away instantly pretty much T_T
 
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