- Mar 12, 2018
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I don't mind intelligent posts such as yours, I do dislike the type of posts you referenced as there is nothing to discuss due to the lack of any reasoning. Now I was unaware of Uberpie having an account here so i never really thought of this being the right place to complain, turns out he does have one but looks as if he is not all that active probably working on his game or is tired of all the toxicity. I think one of the points some of us have been trying to make is that unless you are a patreon bitching holds no real weight because you will not be affecting the money train and the money train is typically what gets a Dev to change. So doing that here as a pirate seems foolish. The real way to get that message across is for the patreons to post on his patreon page.
Every one has a right to post there dissatisfaction here , but if you are going to drop a one liner and use bogus facts there are some who will challenge that. At the end of the day you are probably pissing in the wind but if you want to have an actual conversation about it then try and bring some reasonable debate points into your post some of us will honestly respond to that as I have done with this post.
I am not a person who blindly follows anyone and I totally get why people are irritated and surprisingly enough I agree with some of these issues , I am not a patreon though and hold no power. It is "reasonable" to assume some things however such as, Games such as this one take time, people make estimates all the time and are wrong, Game dev. is not as simple as many make it out to be, the creative process can't be quantified into X takes this amount of time.
So making estimations is foolhardy but, and here is the real problem Patreons keep demanding time lines and when game Devs try and push back the patroens revolt so the Devs play this game of trying to give people what they want with out really being able to truly give accurate estimates. If you think this is a problem that only happens to Patreon Devs think again in the art world artists are notoriously bad at project management, accurately estimating time it takes to create art and communication. My question is why would we expect Game Dev's to be any different than your traditional artists?
Who thinks Game Dev is a simple job is a fool. When you do it alone it normally combines 3-4 learned full time jobs in one. But there a tools and ways to make it work out at a small scale even alone or with a very small team like all this wonderfull projects on this site show.
Ii agree with you that this job has aspect's where you can come into a crative blockade, that does not give them a freepass to anything. It's importent how they tackle this situations. Most other person with a creative job still has to make stuff even when they have a blockade. Sure it wont be there masterpiece but sometimes "good" has to be good enough.
So i ask you the counter question what do you expect from a Game Dev that has a creative Blockade like any other artist but does not have to work on it because like you said the money train keeps driving?
This one here shows the clear typical signs.
Delays over Delays for so called "Mega Updates" where i already stated in another post what i think about those.
The Dev lies about going back to the old smaller updates.
Pushing in more side characters while so much others still lack any content.
and the list goes on...
I love this Game for it's art and writing. But how it is now it tends more and more to the Milfy City, Estate Dominate etc. you name them side.
Meanwhile there are for example Dev's like Blue Axolotl. He's also a full time Dev and caters to a much more niche taste. So he has much less attention and support but still managed to push out 5 COMPLETED games. And i mean really finished high quality stuff that got better from Game to Game. He always delivered in the end. Never lied. But still struggles atm and had to pause his main project because he could not affort to pay the art for it anymore.
So yeah i don't expect from Game Dev's anymore than from anyone else. There actions just determine which one of them i support.