VN Ren'Py Tales from the Unending Void [S3 v0.23 Extra Edition] [Perverteer]

[Avaron1974]

I'm just expressing my opinion, and I don't care how you react to it.

No matter how much you say here, it's useless if the creators don't care about this forum.

Most of the opinions expressed by non-sponsors are just empty talk.

The fuck are you whittering about?

The dev posts constantly, he's been answering questions on these forums and talking to players since his first game.

As far as your opinion goes, that's why I said your post was dumb. It's a dumb opinion.

There is a storyline many of us have been following since the game started, you know, the purpose behind a visual novel. You think the dev should end his game, forget about the build up to the war, forget the MC's revenge on his dad for trying to kill him and his sisters and all the other story threads going on ..... and the dev should forget about those and end his game because the MC can have threesomes........

Ahhh common sense, oh how I miss thee.

 

[Perverteer]

Hey Perverteer sorry to Hijack but I was wondering if you could give some insight on to the Confessor's role in the story? Originally it seemed like he was going to be the big bad but after the ending of season 2 that doesn't seem to be the case. Was his role in the story altered at some point and his purpose changed? Was he always supposed to be a red herring? Or perhaps is there more info that has yet to be revealed?

No, he was always intended as a red herring (part of why he looks and acts a little like a certain someone who's first name is Sheev). Somewhere in Season 2 it's mentioned that he basically relies on magician's tricks to seem more important/powerful. He's mostly a relatively successful cult leader having some of the answers the people with real power needed. As a villain he's a little too abstract for players to relate to, I think. Agust isn't, I hope.

Same thing with Celine. When visiting Jade right after waking up, Celine is there and kisses MC despite not being in a relationship.

Also, unrelated, but... no coma visit from Jade or Vess?

That should be fixed in the next release. The render was swapped in that instance, as the conditional checking for celine_romance looks good to me.

It occurs to me that when the girls' pregnancies all start to show it's going to require a huge amount of artwork. Say there's a scene in which all three sisters appear. Then depending on which of them you have a relationship with there will be eight possibilities as to which of them need to be shown as pregnant. I suppose to keep the amount of work within bounds, in future there could be very few scenes in which more than one of the girls appear.

Yes, there are quite a lot of variants. The foursome has seven possible versions, I believe. The orgy near the end of Season 2 also had quite a few. The number of course multiplies when a character is added. I've had some experience doing this in Sisterly Lust, but TFTUV is a little more ambitious with the amount of characters.

Those scenes need quite a bit of planning and rendering and they impact the development time quite a bit, so I'm going to implement them strategically, while trying to keep moving the story forward as well.

Quick question, is there no pregnancy path yet for Celine; Vess & Jade ? with the others LI being by now i was assuming those 3 too at last for Celine (1st LI & MC's official girlfriend) & Jade (2nd LI either as Slave or mistress), i know Thyia & Ziv preg path get started at the end of the 2nd season, so will must be added later on a futur update...

Yes, there will be. All characters should have had a conversation about this, where their variables were set (celine_pregnancy, vess_pregnancy and jade_pregnancy) in Season 2. The actual announcements will start a little later. I didn't want the first episode to consist of pregnancy talk with every character.[/ISPOILER}

 

[c3p0]

Ahhh common sense, oh how I miss thee.

anne O'nymous it isn't here either; Ava confirmed it.

 

[anne O'nymous]

anne O'nymous it isn't here either; Ava confirmed it.

And gods know that she's a reliable measuring device when it come to it.

 

[azz111]

There's no NTR in Sisterly Lust, and only one male character outside of the MC (who is the MC's friend and completely avoidable if you choose). The only H-scene content where he could show up, is a threesome with the MC and a girl, and I *think* a foursome with the MC present. But again, both are easily avoidable via choice.

Not to mention, Sisterly Lust one of the best non-animation AVNs I've played. It still ranks in my top 5 easily. Would be a shame to skip it.

I'm not an NTR fan either. But in a game that's already VERY light on the NTR(ish) content, AND it's completely avoidable, it's not just a shame to skip it, it's downright weird.

Like I wonder if someone slapped an NTR tag on a game, even if everyone including the OP knew there was no NTR in the game, that the OP and others would skip the game just because the taint of NTR had...well..."tainted" it. Even by mere association?

Are people really that against certain kinks that even if they can never see it or even hear a suggestion of it in their playthrough they'll avoid a game because they know that kink is lurking somewhere in the code?

Honest question, since I'm largely a tourist here and don't spend a lot of time in certain forums...

 

[OldMoonSong]

What I think marspig is saying with exaggeration -- and what I'll put more diplomatically -- is that the romantic & sexual plot lines have already reached their end-states / conclusions -- or at least they have for the female crew, from what I've experienced. The grander narrative, however, is lagging behind and apparently far from over, as Avaron1974 points out with the growing political intrigue, looming war, and revenge against Agust.

The harem is already formed, what more is there to do really except roll through every combination of threesome / foursome / Nsome? There is nothing new to look forward to romantically except for pregnancies and a happily-ever-after sendoff into rolling credits.

Essentially, the romantic plot lines are at the finish line, waiting for the space opera to catch up.

 

[Cabin Fever]

What I think marspig is saying with exaggeration -- and what I'll put more diplomatically -- is that the romantic & sexual plot lines have already reached their end-states / conclusions -- or at least they have for the female crew, from what I've experienced. The grander narrative, however, is lagging behind and apparently far from over, as Avaron1974 points out with the growing political intrigue, looming war, and revenge against Agust.

The harem is already formed, what more is there to do really except roll through every combination of threesome / foursome / Nsome? There is nothing new to look forward to romantically except for pregnancies and a happily-ever-after sendoff into rolling credits.

Essentially, the romantic plot lines are at the finish line, waiting for the space opera to catch up.

Well, that assumes no new LI's will be added to the harem. But one of the fan favorite side-girl had literally just re-appeared. And there is space in the LI screen for at least 2 more LI's, before any layout adjustment is needed.

All that is the long way to say, your attempt to diplomatically square marspig's circle is potentially just as wrong as marspig's opinion.

 

[OldMoonSong]

Well, that assumes no new LI's will be added to the harem. But one of the fan favorite side-girl had literally just re-appeared. And there is space in the LI screen for at least 2 more LI's, before any layout adjustment is needed.

All that is the long way to say, your attempt to diplomatically square marspig's circle is potentially just as wrong as marspig's opinion.

None of this counters the fact that there is a narrative problem -- the imbalanced development of plot lines. Without commenting on the theory that UI spacing should inform the # of LIs a game should have, I'll just note that this would only become more pronounced as new LIs are introduced, as the older ones -- having already reached their logical / emotional conclusions -- become stale and stagnant by comparison.
Yes, new LIs / returning side characters might serve to bridge the emotional gap while we wrap up the grander political & family conflict, but it comes at the cost of diluting emotional weight of already-established, core characters.

Something else is needed to keep the dynamics of the original crew fresh and engaging.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

Are people really that against certain kinks that even if they can never see it or even hear a suggestion of it in their playthrough they'll avoid a game because they know that kink is lurking somewhere in the code?

Everyone has their own interest in the game and everyone has the right to love and dislike the genre (just without whining and aggression).
But as for your opinion of ntr, there are things like a story approach, it's not that people hate NTR out of anger, but that even some fans may be repelled when viewing tags when they see tags they don't like.
And some are so focused on their favorite game or LI that for some reason you suddenly find out that it has another path, then they will be worried, thinking that now other fans will crave such scenes more.

Also, for fans who spend more time in one thread for a long time, they may be partially shocked when they see unexpected tags, which makes them lose interest in continuing to play!
As you can see? Everyone has their own perception, so it's better not to argue, It doesn't hurt to be careful if it's not whining or complaining, because worse things have happened in some AVNs when introducing new tags.

Well, update to my favorite game have finally been released, and I'll make time for it soon!

 

[Nadira]

Are people really that against certain kinks that even if they can never see it or even hear a suggestion of it in their playthrough they'll avoid a game because they know that kink is lurking somewhere in the code?

Yes. That's literally 99% of all topics in game threads...

 

[Cabin Fever]

None of this counters the fact that there is a narrative problem -- the imbalanced development of plot lines. Without commenting on the theory that UI spacing should inform the # of LIs a game should have, I'll just note that this would only become more pronounced as new LIs are introduced, as the older ones -- having already reached their logical / emotional conclusions -- become stale and stagnant by comparison.
Yes, new LIs / returning side characters might serve to bridge the emotional gap while we wrap up the grander political & family conflict, but it comes at the cost of diluting emotional weight of already-established, core characters.

Something else is needed to keep the dynamics of the original crew fresh and engaging.

Fair enough. In fact I completely agree with all this.

However, that wasn't the point of the original whine by marspig. And that's what I was addressing.

 

[cxx]

No matter how much you say here, it's useless if the creators don't care about this forum.

many devs ignore this forum cause this is pirate forum but perverteer isn't 1 of those, he responds to question occasionally.

 

[guidedbyvoices]

Are people really that against certain kinks that even if they can never see it or even hear a suggestion of it in their playthrough they'll avoid a game because they know that kink is lurking somewhere in the code?

Yes, for me the tags I consider wrong cause me to feel the game is tainted, or at least that it could be purer if those didn't exist.

I can put up with it if such tags are offered as an opt-in though, and then try not to think about it. But it's uncomfortable when I see hints of it existing like Gallery scenes I suspect or know contain such material. Clearly for me it was best if it didn't exist, in the game at hand or at all.

 

[doxxxicle]

Yes, there are quite a lot of variants. The foursome has seven possible versions, I believe. The orgy near the end of Season 2 also had quite a few. The number of course multiplies when a character is added. I've had some experience doing this in Sisterly Lust, but TFTUV is a little more ambitious with the amount of characters.

During the "Holy Trinity" scene, I only saw Lilly and Aven. However, all three are marked as "relationship: yes" and "pregnant: yes". Additionally, there was an errant dialogue line during the scene from Eva even though she wasn't shown in the render.

 

[Hallowicked]

Just discovered this game but is it a known bug or something, that iam missing pictures right from the start like "mansion" or "Calista" ?

 

[Jaga Telesin]

Just discovered this game but is it a known bug or something, that iam missing pictures right from the start like "mansion" or "Calista" ?

If you're using the mod (and it sounds like you are), you need to wait for it to be updated. Pathing on many images was changed in the latest update. The mod for S1 isn't updated yet, but he indicated it would be.

 

[Hallowicked]

If you're using the mod (and it sounds like you are), you need to wait for it to be updated. Pathing on many images was changed in the latest update. The mod for S1 isn't updated yet, but he indicated it would be.

Ah thats why , thx for the info

 

[azz111]

Everyone has their own interest in the game and everyone has the right to love and dislike the genre (just without whining and aggression).
But as for your opinion of ntr, there are things like a story approach, it's not that people hate NTR out of anger, but that even some fans may be repelled when viewing tags when they see tags they don't like.
And some are so focused on their favorite game or LI that for some reason you suddenly find out that it has another path, then they will be worried, thinking that now other fans will crave such scenes more.

Also, for fans who spend more time in one thread for a long time, they may be partially shocked when they see unexpected tags, which makes them lose interest in continuing to play!
As you can see? Everyone has their own perception, so it's better not to argue, It doesn't hurt to be careful if it's not whining or complaining, because worse things have happened in some AVNs when introducing new tags.

Well, update to my favorite game have finally been released, and I'll make time for it soon!

I suppose that's reasonable.

I just have trouble wrapping my head around having a problem with a very minor part of the story that I can ignore and play on as if it didn't exist. I don't care if other people have playthroughs with all the kinks I dislike, as long as there's sufficient content for a playthrough that avoids them.

That being said, for example, if a game is advertised as NTR focused from the get go, then that's fine and I just won't play it. Not my cup of tea. Game like My Bimbo Dream decided to add a non-NTR path to the game, which I appreciate, but I can see why NTR lovers might be upset that development time would presumably be diverted for non-NTR paths for a game that seems to have been advertised as NTR focused from the beginning.

Like, "Why is dev pandering to non-NTR people when he built the game's fanbase on NTR?" type of "mission creep" complaint. It's okay to be, and stay, niche. You don't have to be everything to everybody.

I don't know if that makes sense, and it's a little off topic. I'm just trying to see it from the other side (NTR lovers).

 

[azz111]

Yes. That's literally 99% of all topics in game threads...

I'm seeing that. And as this particular complaint isn't one of the ones I become insufferably whiny about, I can shake my head and pretend like I'm above such things

 

[azz111]

Yes, for me the tags I consider wrong cause me to feel the game is tainted, or at least that it could be purer if those didn't exist.

I can put up with it if such tags are offered as an opt-in though, and then try not to think about it. But it's uncomfortable when I see hints of it existing like Gallery scenes I suspect or know contain such material. Clearly for me it was best if it didn't exist, in the game at hand or at all.

If the game is otherwise enjoyable, and the content you don't like is completely avoidable, I'd hope you wouldn't let it ruin your enjoyment.

I'm thinking, but I don't believe there are any tags that would make me drop a game if the tags were avoidable. But maybe I just haven't encountered the right (or wrong) tag? If certain tags are unavoidable, then yeah, I may bail on a game