Nadira

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I wish there would be fewer characters; clearly too many females and the quality suffers a lot as a result - you could easily delete 2 characters from the crew.
You want less, I want more. I still hope we get to bang Céline's mom.
Male side characters are barely of relevance. What is the point of them being there? You could easily narrate the whole story without them. Rather delete 2-4 females and make the males relevant, i.e. invite them more to tag along (xxx) or hook them up with other females, do friendship stuff (like get shitfaced) etc. etc. etc.
So what?
Why do you care so much for male NPCs? They serve their purpose when needed.
That's it. That's why they're there.
Invest the time to improve the first episodes (bring them standard wise in line with the others) and finish the game. You can always start a new story (same universe or something completely new, also economically makes more sense).
That's the dumbest shit I've read all day.
So you want the dev to abandon the game to start another game in the same universe and not resolve the story of this one?
The overall story starts suffering past episode 15 - a phenomena called "escalation" kicks in. There is always a bigger threat and it gets more and more ridiculous.
You don't seem to understand how a story arch works, that's ok...
But you DO realize that the MC and his crew still don't actually know what the confessor and his father actually want with Eva, right?
So no the story doesn't suffer at all. It's actually very interesting and engaging.
 

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You want less, I want more. I still hope we get to bang Céline's mom.

So what?
Why do you care so much for male NPCs? They serve their purpose when needed.
That's it. That's why they're there.

That's the dumbest shit I've read all day.
So you want the dev to abandon the game to start another game in the same universe and not resolve the story of this one?

You don't seem to understand how a story arch works, that's ok...
But you DO realize that the MC and his crew still don't actually know what the confessor and his father actually want with Eva, right?
So no the story doesn't suffer at all. It's actually very interesting and engaging.
This is a visual novel, not just a porn game. And this is clearly reflected in the game. Anyways, the feedback was not for you, it was for the dev. If you are that horny, go watch porn, play a sandbox porn game or go fuck a prostitute irl.

The amount of characters is too much, resulting in a substantial loss of quality regarding the overall story and individual stories. Again, it is a visual novel. Compare it to other popular VN, they don't feature anywhere near that many characters to have a relationship with for a reason.

Again, it is a visual novel. It is better for immersion, better for the story, and gives more variety.

You have no idea what "escalation" means. This is a common problem for amateur / low-level stories*. Go inform yourself before you come back. I know what the story is about, the issue I describe is present.
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Which one? Raene and Ziv?
The issue is, that the dev probably wanted 1x futa and 1x gay, so removing them might not be realistic. That said, yes, they would be first to go, followed by Vess/Jade (keep either or merge them into 1 character). Since Eva is key character, I suggest to keep 1 of following 3: Lilly, Aven, Nadya (without Nadya there won't be MILF so she would be the logic choice).

Effectively what I suggest:
  • Main characters: Eva, Nadya, Kit, Celine, Vess/Jade-merge!
  • Persistent side characters (no romance): Thim, Thyia (maybe you can have a sidestory where you hook them up :p)
  • And if futa/gay is a must: Merge Raene/Ziv into 1 character where there is a choice if they stay Futa or becoming Gay through a story event (dev happy, players have choice).
That means either 5 or 6 characters, making story far more manageable (both dev & player), increases story quality & immersion & emotional connection, allows dev to spend time/resources to improve quality of other parts of the game.

For what the cheat menu? What can you actually cheat? Your only choices are fucking yes/no and kink x yes/no.
Convenience, so a) better integrated, b) always up to date & working, c) easier for users to access - best would be to unlock it after first playthrough.
 
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Nadira

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This is a visual novel, not just a porn game. And this is clearly reflected in the game. Anyways, the feedback was not for you, it was for the dev. If you are that horny, go watch porn, play a sandbox porn game or go fuck a prostitute irl.

The amount of characters is too much, resulting in a substantial loss of quality regarding the overall story and individual stories. Again, it is a visual novel. Compare it to other popular VN, they don't feature anywhere near that many characters to have a relationship with for a reason.

Again, it is a visual novel. It is better for immersion, better for the story, and gives more variety.

You have no idea what "escalation" means. This is a common problem for amateur / low-level stories*. Go inform yourself before you come back. I know what the story is about, the issue I describe is present.
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GG on finding out this is a VN and not a porn game. I have to give props for that.
Anyway...
The rest of your yapping is quite pointless and I can guarantee you that the dev won't change the game to suit your taste.
If you don't like it how it is then go play something else.
 

neuer31

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GG on finding out this is VN and not a porn game. I have to give props for that.
Anyway...
The rest of your yapping is quite pointless and I can guarantee you that the dev won't change the game to suit your taste.
If you don't like it how it is then go play something else.
You seem not to understand the point of a VN. Go jerk off and come back when you have a clear head.
I don't expect the dev to change anything, at best dev wraps up the story as pretty much most reviews suggest.
The feedback is for the next games the dev creates and also to understand why people don't give it a good review.

Your attitude stinks. It boils down to 'I don't like your feedback, piss off'. I will not.


In any case, I posted my review now, modified it a bit (thx colobancuz c3p0 )
 
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...or becoming Gay through a story event (dev happy, players have choice).
Make no sense at all. If you have multiple different variants of one character, you can just use 2 character since the beginning and avoid a lot of if/else.
Convenience, so a) better integrated, b) always up to date & working, c) easier for users to access - best would be to unlock it after first playthrough.
And what do you want to "cheat"? You simple have nothing for a cheat (mod) to work with?
Also, to use your words it is an AVN and not a porn game, so if you want to have all scene in one play-through that goes against AVN in the first place.
I don't expect the dev to change anything, at best dev wraps up the story as pretty much most reviews suggest.
No, that would be, what mediocre or bad dev would do.
A good dev don't change the story in general. They may adjust/add/remove a few small piece to avoid logic holes or similar things, but they won't change the overall story they want to tell.
 
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Make no sense at all. If you have multiple different variants of one character, you can just use 2 character since the beginning and avoid a lot of if/else.

And what do you want to "cheat"? You simple have nothing for a cheat (mod) to work with?
Also, to use your words it is an AVN and not a porn game, so if you want to have all scene in one play-through that goes against AVN in the first place.
No, what i suggest is, that through an event, (i.e.) Raene grows a pussy. All the dev would need to do is create a second set of XXX scenes for Raene, maybe a few small text modifications and that is it. So gay turns into futa. Saves time etc. in creation, reduces the overwhelming amount of characters and thereby increases quality of everything else.

I don't remember, but like a few years ago I played an AVN that did this, after first playthrough you would unlock an integrated cheat menu, showing you optimal path and allow you to unlock gallery. It was mighty convenient. That said, probably a dev generally doesn't want to spend any more time developing more than necessary and leaves cheat mods to 3rd party.
 

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That won't happen in Episode 22, but after that (the beginning of Season 3) harem season is officially open, including Raene (if you want her to participate).
Way back in Season 1 I accidentally friend zoned myself somehow and while I've periodically thought about going back to fix that I never have. But...now I'm considering that more seriously.
 

Nadira

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Your attitude stinks.
Nah... my attitude is fine. You're just rude.
I never told you to "piss off". Your feedback is just pointless.
You seem not to understand the point of a VN.
I've been playing VNs since the 90s. I understand them very well. Probably better than you.
I don't expect the dev to change anything, at best dev wraps up the story as pretty much most reviews suggest.
The feedback is for the next games the dev creates and also to understand why people don't give it a good review.
Wait... you actually think F95 reviews mean anything? :KEK: :FacePalm:
Nobody of relevance is telling the dev to wrap the game up and the game has 4/5 stars on average.

My advice:
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No, what i suggest is, that through an event, Raene grows a pussy. All the dev would need to do is (i.e.) create a second set of XXX scenes for Raene, maybe a few small text modifications and that is it. So gay turns into futa. Saves time etc. in creation, reduces the overwhelming amount of characters and thereby increases quality of everything else.
I have understand what you mean. So, Futa Raene act exactly the same as Trans Raene. That is the first thing that I don't think would be. Second sex scene, exhibition scene, all scene where you can see her dick or vagina would be needed to render twice.
And if you mean that Raene grows a pussy at some point in her story then it isn't the character arc, would make more sense to scrap her and just use Ziv.
I don't remember, but like a few years ago I played an AVN that did this, after first playthrough you would unlock an integrated cheat menu, showing you optimal path and allow you to unlock gallery. It was mighty convenient. That said, probably a dev generally doesn't want to spend any more time developing more than necessary and leaves cheat mods to 3rd party.
You have the WT-mod (3rd party), the PDF-WT and all in all more is not needed. Their is no difficult way to have something it isn't like other AVN here that you need to have a specific combination of choice to unlock one specific path that you can't otherwise unlock.
And again, cheat-mod != WT-mod and you talked about the first, which is for a standard AVN without any grind, in my eyes, not needed at all.

Also, again my opinion, your initial post is more suggestion and not much review. And at this point (1 session out, the next nearly finished) I very much doubt that Perv will change anything in this regard at all.
Regarding the story and the "escalation". There is simply no "escalation" here. Since the beginning the "whole" plot was based on Eva's prophecy. That is still ongoing and none those questions/plots where closed yet.
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Why?

If you don't like how it currently is, and will be, don't play it. It's not for you.
Read the context please, you'll understand that I suggested merging the 2 characters into 1 for various reasons.
I have understand what you mean. So, Futa Raene act exactly the same as Trans Raene. That is the first thing that I don't think would be. Second sex scene, exhibition scene, all scene where you can see her dick or vagina would be needed to render twice.
And if you mean that Raene grows a pussy at some point in her story then it isn't the character arc, would make more sense to scrap her and just use Ziv.
Yes, but character writing, integration etc, and 90%+ of dialogue can be saved + the original goal of reducing characters could be achieved without taking away from providing those 2 fetishes.

I've been playing VNs since the 90s. I understand them very well. Probably better than you.
It clearly seems you forgot about the part where it is a novel.
Wait... you actually think F95 reviews mean anything? :KEK: :FacePalm:
Nobody of relevance is telling the dev to wrap the game up and the game has 4/5 stars on average.
I don't know what to reply to this ...
If you ever bothered to read the recent reviews you would know better. I know for a fact the dev reads at least some of the reviews, so yes, the feedback gets to him.

You are beyond help!
 

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Yes, but character writing, integration etc, and 90%+ of dialogue can be saved + the original goal of reducing characters could be achieved without taking away from providing those 2 fetishes.
They are 2 different "fetishes". One is trans and one is futa. You can't sum up this two as one. If you want, you can look at some of those thread that request that the futa/trans that is converted into two separate ones (also this is planned for the tag update that will happen at some point).

And, as written before, if you want to save time and "remove" one character, why changing Raena at all as you have Ziv already a futa?

Also, if you just want to save development time and, according to the dev himself, the best option to that is limit choices. Choice that are carried through the (whole) story, are what takes a lot of time. You can read that here.
 
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Read the context please
No.
You want Perverteer to make massive changes to characters and the story just to suit you. Not for Perverteer's benefit, not for the story or character's benefit, just you. That's incredibly entitled behaviour.

You are beyond help!
I'm sure he (and others) thinks the same about you too.
 
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