VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS Part 8b] [Mircom3D]

[88stanford88]

Even when they get back to the room Anne is clearly upset

because Tony first pushes her to play and then regrets it....
this is a mixed signal that Tony is sending to her and she was soo horny she send him atext... she thinks that he does not respect their RECIPROCAL agreement
and he is no more able to feel her desire

there will be a point that if he really pisses her off... GAME OVER

 

[88stanford88]

yeah I know what you are saying. Here is my thought on that. I think the developer (not just Mircom but all of them) have a way that they want you to play the game and they spend more time making sure that path makes as much sense as possible. Not saying they ignore the other paths but when you have so many options it must get confusing to keep them all being true to the story and more importantly true to the character. I may be wrong but I really think that is what is happening. I actually like the new playthrough. While it may seem Annie jumped from 0-60 in this last update she at least wondered if she wasn't moving too fast and just seemed to get caught up in the moment. She was also more concerned about what the MC was thinking and taking into account his feelings. I just hope it stays that way and doesn't go down the path of the original game. If I offered advise to Mircom it would be to keep the number of characters smaller. I would much prefer to see Annie develop relationships with maybe 7-8 guys (which now that I type it does seem like a lot) rather than just trying to figure out new situations where Annie can meet a new guy, fuck him and then move on.

she will be in relationship only with Tony
if they break! Game Over!
They must be a lot of number just because she fucks them only for rekindle sexual attraction between her and Tony

The game is as I explain tons of times

 

[latex lvr]

yeah I know what you are saying. Here is my thought on that. I think the developer (not just Mircom but all of them) have a way that they want you to play the game and they spend more time making sure that path makes as much sense as possible. Not saying they ignore the other paths but when you have so many options it must get confusing to keep them all being true to the story and more importantly true to the character. I may be wrong but I really think that is what is happening. I actually like the new playthrough. While it may seem Annie jumped from 0-60 in this last update she at least wondered if she wasn't moving too fast and just seemed to get caught up in the moment. She was also more concerned about what the MC was thinking and taking into account his feelings. I just hope it stays that way and doesn't go down the path of the original game. If I offered advise to Mircom it would be to keep the number of characters smaller. I would much prefer to see Annie develop relationships with maybe 7-8 guys (which now that I type it does seem like a lot) rather than just trying to figure out new situations where Annie can meet a new guy, fuck him and then move on.

Yeah you could be right on that
Except she is not more concerned about Tony. If she was then she would not be pissed at him if he didn't agree to her having sex. Maybe at first but once he explained that he is not there yet then she should have been more understanding. To me it was so obvious that once we were give the option of "yes! please continue" or "Yes But it's enough" that Anne was going to have full sex with the other guys. Which as I said before just didn't make sense because of Tony's reaction when Anne was telling him about her step brother.
The previous game it was Anne that was very reluctant to opening up their relationship to others but this time round it is Tony who seams to be more reluctant and Anne is already showing her true slutty nature. In the last version Tony did seam to be pushing Anne but this time he is not as pushy.

It just seams that she is not longer sexually attracted to Tony and only gives him pity sex when he is on board with her slutty nature. It's like she thinks that well I've had my sex and you allowed it I'm going to reward you by making you cum. If he isn't on board with it he gets nothing.

I guess its a case of once a slut always a slut. I can't help but get the feeling that now the Pandora's box has been opened there will be no closing it and this version will be worse than the last...

I really do hope I am wrong on this and if I am wrong I will gladly write on here that I was wrong.

 

[Lord Ashram]

Where can I access the cheats for TACOS?

The only cheats I have in the TAC/TACOS games is in certain choices that allow you to do multiple things at once instead of one or the other.

 

[Segnbora]

“A life worth living” my favorite swinging game on here & new update end of the month

Huh. Never even noticed it. My bad.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

I still think he wanted to write a pure cuckolding game and keeps pulling his punches, introducing all sorts of mitigating motivations, but his heart isn't in any of them. He wants Anne to take her husband's fetish and run away with it until it destroys their marriage, but he won't just be absolutely clear about that, so he keeps trying to give her more justification or permission. But it's not his fetish and it's not what he really wants the game to be. And so here we are, take three, wading through the same weakening sauce.

I don't think Mircom's true intention was to have Anne destroy their marriage at all. I think he wanted to depict a couple who had a very adventurous sex life, but ultimately remained in love and stayed together. Most people in their situation would probably split up in the end, but I don't think that was what he intended for Anne and Tony. They were supposed to experiment, make compromises and find a sex life that worked for both of them. Obviously if they make the 'wrong' choices they still split up. But that's not what the game is really supposed to be about.

 

[Segnbora]

Obviously if they make the 'wrong' choices they still split up.

The start making a lot of them awfully early in the story, then. And there are several points — one extended stretch during which Anne is having a ton of sex and Tony is either having none (with Anne, at least, and there's nothing he can do to convince her otherwise because she's always too tired from whoever she was banging during the day) or getting pity HJs, and several others (mostly, but not exclusively, on vacations) during which Tony's choices are 1) let her go do the things she clearly wants to do even though he fairly obviously doesn't want her to do them, or 2) make her so angry at him by insisting that it can damage, or even end, the relationship — that, when I started pointing them out mid-revamp #1, the dev expressed tacit agreement right here in this very thread.

So no, I don't think a happy fetish laden ending was ever the obvious way this game was constructed, because Anne learned to angrily resent her husband's attempts to control her, and because Tony is a big lying cheater who never learns his lesson. There's no question it could have been one of several possible outcomes, but both Tony and Anne have to deliberately route around a huge percentage of the sexual content, which seems like a really wasteful way to write, render, and code a game.

That said, that was back in the original and in revamp #1. The only significant changes so far are that 1) we're railroaded into Eric because Dre isn't (yet?) an alternative...and it turns out that Eric's been sleep raping his (half?/step?) sister all along; 2) January exists, at least visually, but isn't yet an alternative way to end the Nicole storyline; 3) Tony has a third round of sex with Francesca rather than someone else; and 4) Anne expresses an emotional attachment to one of her lovers long, long before she does to either Mike, Dre, or Martin (the latter two of whom may not even exist in version three, or at least not in the same way...though I think one would have to be pretty naïve not to imagine at least Martin isn't going to wreak some sort of havoc).

Again, only he knows where revamp #2 is going to go. But Anne already losing control, plus the appearance of 1+2 in tandem this early in the story w/r/t Micah (so soon after receiving oral from Ryan made her feel too guilty to reciprocate), makes me think the same general template remains in place.

 

[88stanford88]

I don't think Mircom's true intention was to have Anne destroy their marriage at all. I think he wanted to depict a couple who had a very adventurous sex life, but ultimately remained in love and stayed together. Most people in their situation would probably split up in the end, but I don't think that was what he intended for Anne and Tony. They were supposed to experiment, make compromises and find a sex life that worked for both of them. Obviously if they make the 'wrong' choices they still split up. But that's not what the game is really supposed to be about.

I totally agree...
This is the spirit of this game I need to revaluate your skill in writing stories
your little"wall of text" is very nice
Probably only those who have lived a passionate marriage for many years can understand....
many cannot understand what happens between a man and a woman who have been together for many years and love sex.. it often happens that you use your fist to widen your wife's holes to get excited... this helps if she is pregnant. .. the relationship between a man and a woman is not only nourished by romance especially if the years go by... sexual attraction ends and you have to find a way to find it again or resign yourself to monotony of a common couple

The primary intention of the game is not to break up the marriage and the player must find the options for the couple to keep sticking together.

 

[88stanford88]

Except she is not more concerned about Tony. If she was then she would not be pissed at him if he didn't agree to her having sex

do you really believe this sentence of yours?
She realizes that her attraction towards him is fading just like the same as the Tony's to her.
He explicitly asked her to have sex with others...
and...
as soon as Tony understands that she is feeling pleasure, he is the only one decides to close the party...
how... I'm indulging you in your perverse cravings and as soon as you find out that I'm feeling pleasure you have to screw everything up...

NONSENSE!
She's totally on Tony's side
if tony retires it means that he is a man who shits himself
It was not the Anne plan!

 

[Zara Scarlet]

This game as it was before Anne became a slut was very much one of my fav games of all time.
I lost all interest during chapter 14 and 15. For me that is where it became less about an adventurous couple and more about a wife who fucks any cock she see's behind her husband's back.
I just don't understand why when her husband encourages her to have fun she needs to lie to him ( Im talking about the second visit from Ryan before you get the choice that Anne comes clean here) and also why she feels that she need to like about working for his dad. Regardless of if you force the Anne and martin scenario or not.

What about my signature says that this game is not for me?
ALWL is about a couple starting out into the sharing lifestyle, It remains to be seen if the wife cheat's or not
ACDOL&L
Again this is about a guy who wants his wife to cuckold him and the swinging lifestyle and it also has cheating in it.
I did use to have Watching my wife on there but with the latest update it appeared to me to be going the same way as TAC

I think making Anne into a cheater, was just leveling the playing field in their relationship. Of course, you can choose for Tony not to cheat on Anne. But that means he has long periods with virtually no content, and doesn't feel right anyway. Because the text suggests Tony is not averse to giving in to his desires, and rarely feels any guilt about doing so. My guess is, most people play Tony as a cheater. Including most of those people who seem to hate Anne doing the same ( a contradiction which just baffles me).

When Anne cheats on Tony, she becomes addicted to the thrill of doing it. It's got nothing to do with having sex with another guy which her husband would hate, because she knows full well that she could fuck anyone, without it bothering Tony at all. The illicit thrill is about doing it behind his back, because that breaks their arrangement. Tony is already addicted to that thrill himself, because regardless of how much he says he loves Anne, it doesn't stop him fucking virtually every woman he meets. So there is no difference between what Anne subsequently does, and what he's been doing from the start of the game. I don't understand why it's so difficult for so many people to see that, and instead view Tony as some kind of victim.

Anne is on a journey of sexual self discovery, which has been instigated by the protagonist. He wants Anne to become a slut. That's so obvious from the text. People who are objecting to this, and suggesting that they be given the choice to determine what Anne does or doesn't do, are missing the point. Anne is not the protagonist and you're not supposed to choose what she does. Except in a few instances, you can only choose what Tony does and how he responds to how she behaves. And if you make decisions for him that contradict what he's been telling Anne that he wants ( because you personally hate the idea of her becoming a slut). That's what ultimately leads to a game over. Because the MC really wants her to become a slut ( even if you don't).

Yes, it's possible to play the protagonist as a totally faithful guy, but you're not really supposed to play Tony in that way. He's supposed to be just as adventurous as Anne. Because that's how they'll ultimately discover the adventurous relationship that works for both of them. So that they can maintain their love and stay together. So trying to make Tony into some boring, insecure chump, who hates Anne sleeping around, is just counterproductive and guaranteed to have them split up eventually. Which of course is the exact opposite of the game's true objective.

 

[Adviar5050]

Yeah you could be right on that
Except she is not more concerned about Tony. If she was then she would not be pissed at him if he didn't agree to her having sex. Maybe at first but once he explained that he is not there yet then she should have been more understanding. To me it was so obvious that once we were give the option of "yes! please continue" or "Yes But it's enough" that Anne was going to have full sex with the other guys. Which as I said before just didn't make sense because of Tony's reaction when Anne was telling him about her step brother.
The previous game it was Anne that was very reluctant to opening up their relationship to others but this time round it is Tony who seams to be more reluctant and Anne is already showing her true slutty nature. In the last version Tony did seam to be pushing Anne but this time he is not as pushy.

It just seams that she is not longer sexually attracted to Tony and only gives him pity sex when he is on board with her slutty nature. It's like she thinks that well I've had my sex and you allowed it I'm going to reward you by making you cum. If he isn't on board with it he gets nothing.

I guess its a case of once a slut always a slut. I can't help but get the feeling that now the Pandora's box has been opened there will be no closing it and this version will be worse than the last...

I really do hope I am wrong on this and if I am wrong I will gladly write on here that I was wrong.

Yeah I agree. If you don't allow Annie to have fun with the guys in the tub she gets mad at him. I could see her doing that but the conversation should have been different. She could have said, "I don't get you at all. First you push me to explore other guys and then when I actually want to you tell me no. How am I supposed to react to that? You are becoming a walking contradiction. Either you want me to or you don't want me to, just let me know when you make up your mind." That would have made sense. But by her getting mad it just kinda proves my point. It seems that Mircom (and I don't like speaking for him) wants us to let Annie have her fun. When we don't, I don't think the dialogue fits the narrative he has tried to create. But then again this is just a porn game and I'm most likely trying to make sense out of a game that just wants to show hot cartoon people having good sex.

 

[latex lvr]

The start making a lot of them awfully early in the story, then. And there are several points — one extended stretch during which Anne is having a ton of sex and Tony is either having none (with Anne, at least, and there's nothing he can do to convince her otherwise because she's always too tired from whoever she was banging during the day) or getting pity HJs, and several others (mostly, but not exclusively, on vacations) during which Tony's choices are 1) let her go do the things she clearly wants to do even though he fairly obviously doesn't want her to do them, or 2) make her so angry at him by insisting that it can damage, or even end, the relationship — that, when I started pointing them out mid-revamp #1, the dev expressed tacit agreement right here in this very thread.

So no, I don't think a happy fetish laden ending was ever the obvious way this game was constructed, because Anne learned to angrily resent her husband's attempts to control her, and because Tony is a big lying cheater who never learns his lesson. There's no question it could have been one of several possible outcomes, but both Tony and Anne have to deliberately route around a huge percentage of the sexual content, which seems like a really wasteful way to write, render, and code a game.

That said, that was back in the original and in revamp #1. The only significant changes so far are that 1) we're railroaded into Eric because Dre isn't (yet?) an alternative...and it turns out that Eric's been sleep raping his (half?/step?) sister all along; 2) January exists, at least visually, but isn't yet an alternative way to end the Nicole storyline; 3) Tony has a third round of sex with Francesca rather than someone else; and 4) Anne expresses an emotional attachment to one of her lovers long, long before she does to either Mike, Dre, or Martin (the latter two of whom may not even exist in version three, or at least not in the same way...though I think one would have to be pretty naïve not to imagine at least Martin isn't going to wreak some sort of havoc).

Again, only he knows where revamp #2 is going to go. But Anne already losing control, plus the appearance of 1+2 in tandem this early in the story w/r/t Micah (so soon after receiving oral from Ryan made her feel too guilty to reciprocate), makes me think the same general template remains in place.

In most I agree whole heartedly with you.
Sorry I don't get what you mean about January?

As regard's to Martin yeah I think it is pretty obvious Martin will be in this new revamp. I only hope that we the players will be given a meaningful option as to how much Martin is involved. I.e if we the players don't let Anne cheat with Martin then she doesn't work for Martin later down the line and the first time we see him in the game is the last time. I also get the feeling that Ryan will still be a thorn in the couples side.

I think making Anne into a cheater, was just leveling the playing field in their relationship. Of course, you can choose for Tony not to cheat on Anne. But that means he has long periods with virtually no content, and doesn't feel right anyway. Because the text suggests Tony is not averse to giving in to his desires, and rarely feels any guilt about doing so. My guess is, most people play Tony as a cheater. Including most of those people who seem to hate Anne doing the same ( a contradiction which just baffles me).

Tony doesn't have to cheat. He can still have fun with other women and Anne is ok with that. She even sets him up with Nicole and later into the game she even brings his Ex back into his life and persuades him to have sex with her also. Anne even says that she doesn't care who he has sex with just doesn't want him to have sex with his work colleagues. She even gets a kick herself watching Tony have sex with others.

When Anne cheats on Tony, she becomes addicted to the thrill of doing it. It's got nothing to do with having sex with another guy which her husband would hate, because she knows full well that she could fuck anyone, without it bothering Tony at all. The illicit thrill is about doing it behind his back, because that breaks their arrangement. Tony is already addicted to that thrill himself, because regardless of how much he says he loves Anne, it doesn't stop him fucking virtually every woman he meets. So there is no difference between what Anne subsequently does, and what he's been doing from the start of the game. I don't understand why it's so difficult for so many people to see that, and instead view Tony as some kind of victim.

But towards the end of the previous version of the game it was starting to bother Tony that she was fucking any guy she came across. I have already discussed this in great length in the last few pages of this thread. I'm not going to repeat it. He does also have a problem with Anne sleeping with Martin and also with Ryan because with Ryan she lied to Tony on his second visit about what they did. If she didn't lie to Tony then there would have been no problem

Anne is on a journey of sexual self discovery, which has been instigated by the protagonist. He wants Anne to become a slut. That's so obvious from the text. People who are objecting to this, and suggesting that they be given the choice to determine what Anne does or doesn't do, are missing the point. Anne is not the protagonist and you're not supposed to choose what she does. Except in a few instances, you can only choose what Tony does and how he responds to how she behaves. And if you make decisions for him that contradict what he's been telling Anne that he wants ( because you personally hate the idea of her becoming a slut). That's what ultimately leads to a game over. Because the MC really wants her to become a slut ( even if you don't).

I don't think it is so much that Tony wants Anne to become a slut. He want's to open up their sex life as it has become boring. I I will agree that he probably didn't think about what could possibly go wrong if he did it.
In the new revamp It's not a case of tony pushing her to do stuff he says all the time that they will go at her pace. Only in this version Anne is ready alot sooner than what Tony is. The way it was done the last time was at a reasonable pace. Anne slowly got more and more adventurous with the different things that they did together and it was only when they went on holiday did Anne really start to let loose and start becoming more sexually open. That way both parties were exploring the Adventures together. This time around there has been no exploring together but more like going from 0 to 100 in a blink of an eye. Tony was not yet ready to see his wife having sex with others there was no gradual build up to it. The only previous experience that Tony had of seeing his wife with another man was with Ryan and Anne herself didn't feel right doing much more than heavy touching with him.

Yes, it's possible to play the protagonist as a totally faithful guy, but you're not really supposed to play Tony in that way. He's supposed to be just as adventurous as Anne. Because that's how they'll ultimately discover the adventurous relationship that works for both of them. So that they can maintain their love and stay together. So trying to make Tony into some boring, insecure chump, who hates Anne sleeping around, is just counterproductive and guaranteed to have them split up eventually. Which of course is the exact opposite of the game's true objective.

That is exactly how I played it previously. The only women that Tony didn't sleep with was he colleagues and that was a limit set by Anne. At every opportunity I had Tony tell Anne who or what he had done. That is how I was able to keep his stats as faithful.

I would also say that from the previous version and also how this version is going I do wonder if Anne is perhaps not as in love with Tony anymore and that is why she is cheating behind his back and setting him up with other women so that perhaps Tony will develop strong feeling towards some of the other women and once he catches Anne cheating she hope that he will kick her out and get a divorce

Yeah I agree. If you don't allow Annie to have fun with the guys in the tub she gets mad at him. I could see her doing that but the conversation should have been different. She could have said, "I don't get you at all. First you push me to explore other guys and then when I actually want to you tell me no. How am I supposed to react to that? You are becoming a walking contradiction. Either you want me to or you don't want me to, just let me know when you make up your mind." That would have made sense. But by her getting mad it just kinda proves my point. It seems that Mircom (and I don't like speaking for him) wants us to let Annie have her fun. When we don't, I don't think the dialogue fits the narrative he has tried to create. But then again this is just a porn game and I'm most likely trying to make sense out of a game that just wants to show hot cartoon people having good sex.

Exactly
There is a gap of 10 days where Anne and Tony don't have any sexual relations with each other. Even when Anne comes home from her mothers there is nothing for a couple of days more and only if Tony agrees to Anne having sex with other guys does he then get a bit of action himself by way of oral and doesn't actually get to have penetration with her till after the weekend away.
If he doesn't agree with Anne to have sex then I can foresee that he won't be getting any action from Anne till they go on the vacation in a week or so's time.

Its not very often I go away from my wife for more than a night or 2 but as soon as I do get home the very first thing we do is head straight to the bedroom and that is after 11 years of marriage, there has even be a case of we couldn't even wait to get home and did it in the car. That's not me bragging, I am just saying that Tony and Anne are only married 5 years and already their sex life is straining.

 

[Jstforme]

What I don’t understand is this “adventurous couple” have only been married for what, five years? If they’re bored with each other this early in the marriage, then they probably shouldn’t have ever gotten married.
Outside of that, I wish we would get a little insight into what’s going on in Anne’s head at times…Tony to me is just a buffoon that can’t think beyond tomorrow, and never learned what the word consequences actually means. So far, part 3 is showing the same warning signs as the prior versions that Pandora’s box is opened for Anne, I just hope it’s centered on a few lovers instead of a few dozen…would be nice if one or two are working the Martin angle and do what they can to take Anne for themselves.

 

[latex lvr]

What I don’t understand is this “adventurous couple” have only been married for what, five years? If they’re bored with each other this early in the marriage, then they probably shouldn’t have ever gotten married.
Outside of that, I wish we would get a little insight into what’s going on in Anne’s head at times…Tony to me is just a buffoon that can’t think beyond tomorrow, and never learned what the word consequences actually means. So far, part 3 is showing the same warning signs as the prior versions that Pandora’s box is opened for Anne, I just hope it’s centered on a few lovers instead of a few dozen…would be nice if one or two are working the Martin angle and do what they can to take Anne for themselves.

I personally think that Ryan Martin and Walker will try to take Anne for themselves. I hope I am wrong particularly with regards to martin.

 

[Joshy92]

Yeah you could be right on that
Except she is not more concerned about Tony. If she was then she would not be pissed at him if he didn't agree to her having sex. Maybe at first but once he explained that he is not there yet then she should have been more understanding. To me it was so obvious that once we were give the option of "yes! please continue" or "Yes But it's enough" that Anne was going to have full sex with the other guys. Which as I said before just didn't make sense because of Tony's reaction when Anne was telling him about her step brother.
The previous game it was Anne that was very reluctant to opening up their relationship to others but this time round it is Tony who seams to be more reluctant and Anne is already showing her true slutty nature. In the last version Tony did seam to be pushing Anne but this time he is not as pushy.

It just seams that she is not longer sexually attracted to Tony and only gives him pity sex when he is on board with her slutty nature. It's like she thinks that well I've had my sex and you allowed it I'm going to reward you by making you cum. If he isn't on board with it he gets nothing.

I guess its a case of once a slut always a slut. I can't help but get the feeling that now the Pandora's box has been opened there will be no closing it and this version will be worse than the last...

I really do hope I am wrong on this and if I am wrong I will gladly write on here that I was wrong.

Exacty i see this sorta stuff in swinging/cuckold games all the time and i think that as soon as people in that sort of relationship start lying or not talking to each other like adults well that's when relationships turn to shit imo
I have never even been in a swinging or cuck relationship but even I know couples should he open and honest with each other

 

[Sadowdark]

Yes, it's possible to play the protagonist as a totally faithful guy, but you're not really supposed to play Tony in that way. He's supposed to be just as adventurous as Anne. Because that's how they'll ultimately discover the adventurous relationship that works for both of them. So that they can maintain their love and stay together. So trying to make Tony into some boring, insecure chump, who hates Anne sleeping around, is just counterproductive and guaranteed to have them split up eventually. Which of course is the exact opposite of the game's true objective.

How I hate it when someone teaches you how to play and tells you that you play badly because you don't make Anna a whore. It's terribly selfish. Let everyone play as they like. You can see that in the new version at such an early stage, Anna is more aggressive and wants to break the cage as soon as possible and break free as a slut who fucks everything that moves from the old game, not caring about her husband's opinion. I hope we don't get a mechanic who if we don't let Annie fuck everyone, Tony won't have sex with Anna as punishment.

 

[danvo2004]

The only cheats I have in the TAC/TACOS games is in certain choices that allow you to do multiple things at once instead of one or the other.

hi, just wondering are you updating mod for part 3 soon ? tks

 

[88stanford88]

I think making Anne into a cheater, was just leveling the playing field in their relationship. Of course, you can choose for Tony not to cheat on Anne. But that means he has long periods with virtually no content, and doesn't feel right anyway. Because the text suggests Tony is not averse to giving in to his desires, and rarely feels any guilt about doing so. My guess is, most people play Tony as a cheater. Including most of those people who seem to hate Anne doing the same ( a contradiction which just baffles me).

When Anne cheats on Tony, she becomes addicted to the thrill of doing it. It's got nothing to do with having sex with another guy which her husband would hate, because she knows full well that she could fuck anyone, without it bothering Tony at all. The illicit thrill is about doing it behind his back, because that breaks their arrangement. Tony is already addicted to that thrill himself, because regardless of how much he says he loves Anne, it doesn't stop him fucking virtually every woman he meets. So there is no difference between what Anne subsequently does, and what he's been doing from the start of the game. I don't understand why it's so difficult for so many people to see that, and instead view Tony as some kind of victim.

Anne is on a journey of sexual self discovery, which has been instigated by the protagonist. He wants Anne to become a slut. That's so obvious from the text. People who are objecting to this, and suggesting that they be given the choice to determine what Anne does or doesn't do, are missing the point. Anne is not the protagonist and you're not supposed to choose what she does. Except in a few instances, you can only choose what Tony does and how he responds to how she behaves. And if you make decisions for him that contradict what he's been telling Anne that he wants ( because you personally hate the idea of her becoming a slut). That's what ultimately leads to a game over. Because the MC really wants her to become a slut ( even if you don't).

He's supposed to be just as adventurous as Anne. Because that's how they'll ultimately discover the adventurous relationship that works for both of them. So that they can maintain their love and stay together. So trying to make Tony into some boring, insecure chump, who hates Anne sleeping around, is just counterproductive and guaranteed to have them split up eventually. Which of course is the exact opposite of the game's true objective.

I must admit that you write English perfectly and you described what I wanted to say with correct English ...) unfortunately I am forced to use the google translator also if I know English... but only in a basic way
I've bookmarked the link of this post of yours...
there's only one small sentence that I don't agree with and it's this one below

Yes, it's possible to play the protagonist as a totally faithful guy, but you're not really supposed to play Tony in that way.

I believe that everyone should play the path they prefer I also tried to play with totally faithful Tony because it reminded me of the times when I was a teenager it will lead in Anne total slut because Tony accepts everything for stay with her
Anyway there are other courses and I think each of them is worth playing. the people who are objecting to this would like to rewrite history as it never was or they hope that their objection will prompt Mircom to write something for them. the dev for sure started this remake to go back to the original story that had slipped out of his hands it seems due to suggestions or wrong dialogues (i'm not sure about) so the only thing to do is wait for the next parts of the game hoping they will come soon.

this game is best suited to the over 30s people

 

[itanimull1]

hello im new here, which part should i download for the first time to play? should i download part 14 or just download the tacos part? thank you

 

[mizilic]

I think if you are playing the more swinging type route as opposed to the cheating/cuck route they should share their experiences with each other more and maybe just maybe even have sex while doing so. It's weird that the extent of them sharing their stories is a handjob or masturbation. There should also be more scenes where they are doing things together with others (mmf, ffm, group, etc) or at the very least in the same room lol. Every scene basically feels like a cheating/cuck scene.

Unfortunately you can not play a "more swinging type route" because there is no such route. In the first version there was a "swinging path" which i have chosen at that time but that led to nothing more than the same and only 2 swinging scenes (with the neighbors and with Mike and his wife at the club) which you would get anyway and which both have a lot of choices meant to make you avoid by all means a "classic swinging (aka wife swapping) and land in a threesome FFM where the MC just watches and optionally licks the cum of the other male from Anne.

Whenever i ask here or in threads of other games with the same tendency of avoiding swinging in favor of cuckolding/hotwifing, i get as reason that swinging is not popular because it's "boring". I dunno.. for my taste swinging, mostly in its classical form of 2 couples swapping partners, is very exciting and never boring, apart from being the most fair of all forms of "open relationship". And it is by all means less boring than again and again a FFM or maybe, if you are lucky.. a MMF, which usually are also considered swinging.

Maybe those of us who enjoy classic "wife swapping" should use all occasions to signal to the devs of such games that swinging is anything but boring and may be in fact more popular than they think..