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I don't think people don't understand it, it's just the only tag available. The fact that "netori", which means literally the opposite of "netorare", shares the same tag doesn't help with the confusion.
 
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I don't think people don't understand it, it's just the only tag available.
There are perfectly understandable English tags available for this game. I've said this a zillion times elsewhere, but I'd love to see "NTR" prohibited as a tag and force people to either identify the specific subgenre(s) or use English terms. The prevailing belief behind "is NTR avoidable?" inquiries is that any form of extracurricular sexual activity is NTR, and of course that's completely wrong.

So here we have a game based on rampant and unavoidable non-monogamous sex. Unavoidable for the wife, at least. Avoidable for the husband if one wishes to play that way. The only instances of netorare are with Martin (who could just as easily receive a cheating tag, plus a jealousy or willing/unwilling cuckolding tag if it existed), Ryan (ditto), and the husband/spa dude whose name I suddenly can't remember, though even then the only hint of netorare was when Anne gave him her panties at dinner and didn't tell her husband about it until later. We don't actually need Japanese terms for this game and we don't really need to be discussing them. Yet we are.

Ultimately, this isn't an NTR game and would never satisfy players for whom it's their fetish. It could eventually become one if it goes on long enough and the player makes a certain set of choices, but right now it's a willing cuckold/open relationship/hotwifing game with the occasional nod towards swinging or cheating or very occasional netorare. That this discussion exists in this thread in the first place is only because people don't understand what NTR is and isn't. We obviously don't want to have a discussion about that because it'll just get deleted, but it's not because there aren't better ways to tag the game. There are.
 
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There are perfectly understandable English tags available for this game. I've said this a zillion times elsewhere, but I'd love to see "NTR" prohibited as a tag and force people to either identify the specific subgenre(s) or use English terms. The prevailing belief behind "is NTR avoidable?" inquiries is that any form of extracurricular sexual activity is NTR, and of course that's completely wrong.

So here we have a game based on rampant and unavoidable non-monogamous sex. Unavoidable for the wife, at least. Avoidable for the husband, if one wishes to play that way. The only instances of netorare are with Martin (who could just as easily receive a cheating tag, plus a jealousy or willing/unwilling cuckolding tag if it existed), Ryan (ditto), and the husband/spa dude whose name I suddenly can't remember, though even then the only hint of netorare was when Anne gave him her panties at dinner and didn't tell her husband about it until later. We don't actually need Japanese terms for this game and we don't really need to be discussing them. Yet we are.

Ultimately, this isn't an NTR game and would never satisfy players for whom that's their fetish. It could eventually become one if it goes on long enough and the player makes a certain set of choices, but right now it's a willing cuckold/open relationship/hotwifing game with the occasional nod towards swinging or very occasional netorare. That this discussion exists in this thread in the first place is only because people don't understand what NTR is and isn't. We obviously don't want to have a discussion about that because it'll just get deleted, but it's not because there aren't better ways to tag the game. There are.
I understand your points. What i meant is that this website has no other tags for cuckold or open relationships content, "ntr" is the only tag available so most people use it to refer to everything related to sharing or similar situations. More specific tags would definitely help avoid misusing that term.
 

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What i meant is that this website has no other tags for cuckold or open relationships content, "ntr" is the only tag available so most people use it to refer to everything related to sharing or similar situations. More specific tags would definitely help avoid misusing that term.
We're in agreement, then.
 
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I'm getting an error that brings the story to a grinding halt (no way around it). I searched the thread and found one other person reported the error back in Oct, but no one offered a solution. I've installed a couple of bugfixes I found in the thread, but nothing has worked.

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There are perfectly understandable English tags available for this game. I've said this a zillion times elsewhere, but I'd love to see "NTR" prohibited as a tag and force people to either identify the specific subgenre(s) or use English terms. The prevailing belief behind "is NTR avoidable?" inquiries is that any form of extracurricular sexual activity is NTR, and of course that's completely wrong.

So here we have a game based on rampant and unavoidable non-monogamous sex. Unavoidable for the wife, at least. Avoidable for the husband if one wishes to play that way. The only instances of netorare are with Martin (who could just as easily receive a cheating tag, plus a jealousy or willing/unwilling cuckolding tag if it existed), Ryan (ditto), and the husband/spa dude whose name I suddenly can't remember, though even then the only hint of netorare was when Anne gave him her panties at dinner and didn't tell her husband about it until later. We don't actually need Japanese terms for this game and we don't really need to be discussing them. Yet we are.

Ultimately, this isn't an NTR game and would never satisfy players for whom it's their fetish. It could eventually become one if it goes on long enough and the player makes a certain set of choices, but right now it's a willing cuckold/open relationship/hotwifing game with the occasional nod towards swinging or cheating or very occasional netorare. That this discussion exists in this thread in the first place is only because people don't understand what NTR is and isn't. We obviously don't want to have a discussion about that because it'll just get deleted, but it's not because there aren't better ways to tag the game. There are.
The correct place for this suggestion is here: https://f95zone.to/forums/features-request.13/
 

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I understand your points. What i meant is that this website has no other tags for cuckold or open relationships content, "ntr" is the only tag available so most people use it to refer to everything related to sharing or similar situations. More specific tags would definitely help avoid misusing that term.
I like when the tags are cheating, cheating and cheating. It keeps things simple and to the point.
 

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It's a bit strange that you can't get anne to do anal unless on the Cuck or Cheating Path... and a bit dissapointing that there isnt a single dp scene even with the secondary characters (like the swinging foursome could have a dp scene)
 
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Its a bit strange that you can get anne to do anal unless on the Cuck or Cheating Path... and a bit dissapointing that there isnt a single dp scene even with the secondary characters (like the swinging foursome could have a dp scene)
Not sure what you mean, but Anne gets into a 3way(dp) at the sauna.
 
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Not sure what you mean, but Anne gets into a 3way(dp) at the sauna.
Unless there's a version of that scene that I've missed there's no DP. The anal scene with Drake is separate from the "threesome" (which is mostly just Anne having sex with two dudes in sequence).
 
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Unless there's a version of that scene that I've missed there's no DP. The anal scene with Drake is separate from the "threesome" (which is mostly just Anne having sex with two dudes in sequence).
Isn't Anne giving a bj and getting banged from behind at the same time, considered DP? That happens in the hot tub.

edit; there's also a scene on the beach with her doing the same thing in some group sex.
 
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Isn't Anne giving a bj and getting banged from behind at the same time, considered DP?
Nope. DP is simultaneous vaginal and anal. Some people also use it for DPP or DVP (double vaginal) and DAP (double anal), but since there are more specific terms for those acts it's almost always restricted to the original definition.
 

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Nope. DP is simultaneous vaginal and anal. Some people also use it for DPP or DVP (double vaginal) and DAP (double anal), but since there are more specific terms for those acts it's almost always restricted to the original definition.
Thanks for the lesson. I always figured if the "hole" is filled with something, it's penetrated.
 
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Thanks for the lesson. I always figured if the "hole" is filled with something, it's penetrated.
In strictly literal terms I suppose, but the act you described above would be called spit-roasting. There are probably some other descriptions for it as well. But go to any pornographic site or company that tags their content and DP means vaginal plus anal. That said, you're not the only one to get this wrong.
 
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Thanks for clearing that up. I guess, since I've never been in to anal, the DP through me off. But, I must admit, I have nothing against "rimming".
 
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I'm getting an error that brings the story to a grinding halt (no way around it). I searched the thread and found one other person reported the error back in Oct, but no one offered a solution. I've installed a couple of bugfixes I found in the thread, but nothing has worked.

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From a quick look at the script I can see there seem to be no lable to jump to if you choose the option "Don't peek". If you absolutely want to choose that option I'm pretty sure you can just change this line in the script

"Don't peek!":
jump v9_sun_nopeek

change the "jump v9_sun_nopeek" to "jump v9_sun_breakfast"
Since if you don't peek I guess nothing should happen during that event and just jump on to the breakfast as it does after the peeking option.
 
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From a quick look at the script I can see there seem to be no lable to jump to if you choose the option "Don't peek". If you absolutely want to choose that option I'm pretty sure you can just change this line in the script

"Don't peek!":
jump v9_sun_nopeek

change the "jump v9_sun_nopeek" to "jump v9_sun_breakfast"
Since if you don't peek I guess nothing should happen during that event and just jump on to the breakfast as it does after the peeking option.

Thanks for the help! I will make that change.
 
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