VN Ren'Py The Adventurous Couple [TACOS Part 9b] [Mircom3D]

[88stanford88]

The point of storytelling is to illicit an emotional response, negative or positive. Sometimes I have a negative emotional response to some elements of a story/characters/scenes. It is the point of reading stories. You are a music teacher, isn't the whole point of music to illicit an emotional response?

About my Job as Maestro:
in order to convey emotion to the audience with music, the musician must be focused on his technique and not feel emotions that might make him make mistakes or lose concentration...
to convey emotions to the audience with music, the musician must be focused on his technique and not feel emotions that might cause him to make mistakes or lose concentration...

basically, the musician's fingers must not tremble if he wants to convey emotions of sadness or fear...so to convey emotions, one must not feel them during the performance
Emotion reaches the audience well only if the performer knows exactly how to convey it.... because they are written into the score. neither the performers of a musical composition nor the viewers will ever ask the author to change what he is writing
....but i don't want to talk about me... we are talking about TAC

if the dev has said he is writing the story the way he wants without interference it becomes disrespectful to ask for changes
a musician must be able to convey joy also when he feels sad and vice versa if it is written in the partitura (music sheet)

and in any case making the listener/reader feel disgust is part of the technical skill of conveying emotions to the audience

My comment are based on the composition because I am used to respecting the choices of the person who wrote a musical or literary work (in this case the DEV)

I like the various forms of consensual sharing, it excites me as well as other elements of the story, but I don't like the lying and cheating in any version of this story,

there is a shorter way to say that: you don't like NTR!
but there is netorare tag here (in any case there are path where Anne is totally faithful to the MC)
depend on the choices you take. Martin ishould be tatally avoidanle and if not... it was one of mistakes... this will be corrected

Some people love the lying and cheating,

You're obviously talking about the wife here right?
nobody likes to be betrayed but in this case Anne's behavior depends on the MC... and if when you are in the Anne faithful path you get some wrong scene this may be another of the mistakes that will be corrected with the remake

The latest answer n.15 from Mircom can clarify a lot about how the new remake will be

15. So if I don't pick one of those characters like Martin, I won't have him. I meant more that if I don't pick one of these characters, Anne doesn't cheat with them?

Dev answer: They’ll still be there as they are part of the story but the “hot” scenes won’t be available. Correct!

this should reassure you that in the new draft of the game...f you choose the path of Anne being faithful to her husband you won't see any unwanted scenes

So now I hope (yes I used that word again) the dev will change those later chapters to salvage the relationship. He may or may not.

the developer has clearly said that he will follow the original story and not make the same mistake that forced him to write the story from scratch by accepting complaints from others
here is the question 2.

2. Will we finally have full control over Anne or will she again be a slut who fucks everything that moves and we watch her fuck guys we would never choose, like dirty homeless people That we didn't have full control over Ania, that was the worst part of your game.

Dev answer: Some control yes over her decisions. Not complete control. Some actions of hers will be dependent on "cheat" or not.

But as you can see from his answers Martin will be also in the new TACOS and Anne cheating path will be there too (avoidable)

at this point there is a question you don't want to answer.
I'll try to ask it again

What do you think about Tacos part3? Does it fit your expectations?

Thanks

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

About my Job as Maestro:
in order to convey emotion to the audience with music, the musician must be focused on his technique and not feel emotions that might make him make mistakes or lose concentration...
to convey emotions to the audience with music, the musician must be focused on his technique and not feel emotions that might cause him to make mistakes or lose concentration...

basically, the musician's fingers must not tremble if he wants to convey emotions of sadness or fear...so to convey emotions, one must not feel them during the performance
Emotion reaches the audience well only if the performer knows exactly how to convey it.... because they are written into the score. neither the performers of a musical composition nor the viewers will ever ask the author to change what he is writing
....but i don't want to talk about me... we are talking about TAC

if the dev has said he is writing the story the way he wants without interference it becomes disrespectful to ask for changes
a musician must be able to convey joy also when he feels sad and vice versa if it is written in the partitura (music sheet)

and in any case making the listener/reader feel disgust is part of the technical skill of conveying emotions to the audience

My comment are based on the composition because I am used to respecting the choices of the person who wrote a musical or literary work (in this case the DEV)


there is a shorter way to say that: you don't like NTR!
but there is netorare tag here (in any case there are path where Anne is totally faithful to the MC)
depend on the choices you take. Martin ishould be tatally avoidanle and if not... it was one of mistakes... this will be corrected

You're obviously talking about the wife here right?
nobody likes to be betrayed but in this case Anne's behavior depends on the MC... and if when you are in the Anne faithful path you get some wrong scene this may be another of the mistakes that will be corrected with the remake

The latest answer n.15 from Mircom can clarify a lot about how the new remake will be



this should reassure you that in the new draft of the game...f you choose the path of Anne being faithful to her husband you won't see any unwanted scenes


the developer has clearly said that he will follow the original story and not make the same mistake that forced him to write the story from scratch by accepting complaints from others
here is the question 2.


But as you can see from his answers Martin will be also in the new TACOS and Anne cheating path will be there too (avoidable)

at this point there is a question you don't want to answer.
I'll try to ask it again

What do you think about Tacos part3? Does it fit your expectations?

Thanks

Wow you have contradicted yourself on a number of issues in this post but I'm too tired to go there, I'll make one point and answer your question at the end again.

NTR:
1. I don't mind NTR in some circumstances, depends on the story.
2. Just because a game has an NTR path, that doesn't mean there won't be paths I enjoy playing or that I won't enjoy the NTR path. It depends on the story. If it has an interesting description I will most likely try it.
3. Often the NTR tag is applied for one or two scenes, it is often a misleading tag.
4. I don't mind if people like or dislike NTR. If it works for them whichever way then good luck to them. Not my concern.

What do I think of TACOS so far I already answered it but I will say it again, I enjoyed the story so far overall, a couple of things I don't like so much. As for expectations, for the most part yes. The one thing I will add is TACOS could do without the Ryan character, he adds nothing to the story that couldn't be achieved through another character plus he takes away respect from Anne and the MC and the value of the early relationship IMO.

 

[88stanford88]

I think that someone doesn't want to understand, that most players don't complain about the game itself, but about a very specific dynamic, Anna and Martin, this relationship doesn't make sense if the aim is to fix the relationship.

There will be Bad and Good endings and actually those who complain about the story between Martin and Anne do not understand that it very well defines the wife's behavior based on the MC's choices

In fact, Martin path is completely avoidable and in any case the dev said it will be in the new remake as well....

the hope that Martin (the MC's father) will disappear is for losers because
1. the story is completely avoidable
2. the fact that Emma (MC's first girlfriend left Tony preferring to fuck his father opens the story toward important events that will surely be clarified in the endings.

The relationship between Martin and Anne is completely avoidable even in CH14...but as I have said several times...many of you install the mod... precisely because the sex scenes between Anne and martin are irresistible..

What do I think of TACOS so far I already answered it but I will say it again, I enjoyed the story so far overall, a couple of things I don't like so much. As for expectations, for the most part yes. The one thing I will add is TACOS could do without the Ryan character, he adds nothing to the story that couldn't be achieved through another character plus he takes away respect from Anne and the MC and the value of the early relationship IMO.

Sorry maybe i have miss your answer
Thanks for that...
so you don't care about NTR

but at this point you don't like Martin and Ryan... that are avoidable also in the old version

one last question remains for you--how come you choose to see paths you don't like?

... never mind this is just a rhetorical question

aly237204 let me understand the reason for all these complaints

at this point I better change my avatar

Done!

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

so you don't care about NTR

but at this point you don't like Martin and Ryan... that are avoidable also in the old version

Across several posts I have said I don't care for NTR and it is not my thing but some times, depending on the story, I am fine with it and even enjoy it.

I played TACOS first originally. I had no idea who Ryan was and hence why I played that path... I usually play all the paths in a game initially, otherwise how will I know what happens if I don't play all the paths to the end? If I discover I don't like that path I probably wont play that path again. Does that make sense to you?

Martin is different to Ryan. Martin is the protagonist of the story, players are not suppose to like him. Ryan is a filler character. Even if you avoid Martin, his spectre hangs over the TAC storyline. Anne works for him for a substantial part of the game. His part in the story is especially prevalent in Ch15. He is the necessary evil lurking in the shadows of the story even if you avoid the earlier interactions with him. Unlike Ryan, Martin serves a purpose, a nefarious purpose, but a purpose all the same. No doubt he will serve a similar purpose in TACOS.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

perhaps it is true, we are giving too much importance to a low-level game, I accept the suggestion not to play any more versions of marriage stories, which are too obvious and piloted.

Maybe you just need to walk away from this particular one. I would encourage you to keep reading marriage stories if you enjoy them. Some you won't like, some you will. PM me if you like. I can pass on some recommendations from ones I have read. Why give up something you enjoy from one bad experience.

 

[aly237204]

Maybe you just need to walk away from this particular one. I would encourage you to keep reading marriage stories if you enjoy them. Some you won't like, some you will. PM me if you like. I can pass on some recommendations from ones I have read. Why give up something you enjoy from one bad experience.

thank you, if you have suggestions, I gladly accept them, thanks

 

[88stanford88]

I played TACOS first originally. I had no idea who Ryan was and hence why I played that path... I usually play all the paths in a game initially, otherwise how will I know what happens if I don't play all the paths to the end? If I discover I don't like that path I probably wont play that path again. Does that make sense to you?

yes I agree with you. this is good and i also play by this way but i do not hope that dev will change what i don't like

if you avoid Martin, his spectre hangs over the TAC storyline.

yes i know... this happens because Martin is his father... the one that have paid for his college (his mother abandoned Martin and Tony if I remember well) Martin is very important in the storyline...
This makes a lot of sense in some way is very realistic! not always the mothers are good... and of course this also makes sense that Martin is not a lucky man about his marriage and his relationship

His part in the story is especially prevalent in Ch15. He is the necessary evil lurking in the shadows of the story even if you avoid the earlier interactions with him.

the CH15 was the big mistake because it was not only CH15
but in the reality it was the CH1 of an EP2... it was standalone and not well connected by using the old saves from CH14
about this... here is the question 10

10. Will we have a choice or do we want Anne to work at Uncle Tony's club?

dev answer: This is far in future but their will be choices as to how she behaves in the club.

the way Anne will behave will be closely related to the choices previously made by the therapist ... oops sorry ..
I meant to say by the player

Martin serves a purpose, a nefarious purpose,

again your moral judgment telling your persoonal view--remind you that the story is also about nefarious purpose
would be a story out of reality if all the characters were pure and honest (boring story where all are honest)

you seem to like reassuring (vanilla) stories but please don't take this as an offense it is very provable it is not so even though many of your "judgments" seem to match

No doubt he will serve a similar purpose in TACOS.

Yes I totally agree with you... now you started to understand that hope is for --- ok ok you know that
I am glad that you fully understood that this story tells about a drama

the drama of the end of a marriage and of a husband and a wife who does not want to resign themself to losing their partner

THEY ARE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE!

my only hope is to be able to see the endings of this compelling story that many of us have really experienced whenever one of our important relationships has ended
I have experienced such drama at least once ... and I really would have done anything not to lose that wonderful girl
and I hope that Tony and Anne manage to do so against every nefarious prediction and every nefarious event that will happen during the evolution of the story... there is always a way to save this love story if both are on the same page until the end!

 

[88stanford88]

That is why the story in this game is an INCOMPARABLE MASTERPIECE!

 

[doomulol]

all of you shut up , wen nex update? tacos

 

[Puma1978]

Does anyone know where Dev is around or what he is working on right now? Last post was beginning of June about his second game "Christine" so i think he is working on that and we may wait months to see next Chapter of TACOS. This Dev is also not really open to share news or progress at least once a week with his supporters.

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

the drama of the end of a marriage and of a husband and a wife who does not want to resign themself to losing their partner

THEY ARE BOTH ON THE SAME PAGE!

my only hope is to be able to see the endings of this compelling story that many of us have really experienced whenever one of our important relationships has ended
I have experienced such drama at least once ... and I really would have done anything not to lose that wonderful girl
and I hope that Tony and Anne manage to do so against every nefarious prediction and every nefarious event that will happen during the evolution of the story... there is always a way to save this love story if both are on the same page until the end!

No they are not on the same page at all, although they did start out that way. By the end you can't trust a thing Anne says. She says one thing but does another.

Look, I'm a romantic at heart, I usually like the couple at the end of their dramas to survive and to live happily ever after. Not always, but most of the time, it depends on the story. I have experienced both ends in real life, the ruined marriage ending and the live happily ever after marriage after surviving many dramas ending. I enjoy the latter much much more. I can't see that happening for Anne and Tony unless the Dev changes the story in TACOS. I would rather see Tony dump her ass and find a better woman.

I know you have a problem with my ''moral judgements'' but that is part of the fun and rollercoaster ride of emotions in any given story. It makes the story worth while. Without emotions (and with that comes moral judgements) then what is the point of even opening it to begin with? If its just for porn then there are soooo many easier ways to access porn to get off.

At this point I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[88stanford88]

No they are not on the same page at all, although they did start out that way. By the end you can't trust a thing Anne says. She says one thing but does another.

as usual you tend to imagine what has not yet been written and things that they have not yet discussed.
I can only say that at the moment the eventual endings have not been written ... and neither you nor I can say whether they will eventually continue to be on the same page as it is written in the dialogue where they decide together to begin their adventure

Look, I'm a romantic at heart, I usually like the couple at the end of their dramas to survive and to live happily ever after. Not always, but most of the time, it depends on the story. I have experienced both ends in real life, the ruined marriage ending and the live happily ever after marriage after surviving many dramas ending.

This is still possible in the story as is written because endings are not yet written
and normally the dramas you talk about last more than 6 months and start without at least one of the partners' knowledge .... instead here the couple decided together to try this road
both of them know exactly what they are doing...but they each have their own jobs...
and so they have to trust for the hours and days when they are not together ( Anne working as a stewardess can be out days and even working with Lenny she was out for whole days or a whole week at the start.

can't see that happening for Anne and Tony unless the Dev changes the story in TACOS. I would rather see Tony dump her ass and find a better woman.

I do not agree with you here.. but we will see if agree or desagree (as you said at the end of your post)
actually in CH14 I h seen Tony and Anne faithful to the plan they both decided at the the start ... they seems to be on the same page also in the Barbados

(about Martin I just say that the relationship with him can be avoided
but in any case there are reasons if you go for Anne cheat path:
Because provably there were things that her husband didn't keep on the covenant as well:
for example, she clearly asked him not to screw the female co-workers in his office.

the story is perfect ... and endings must be connected to the path the player chooses ... if you avoid the relationship with Martin the ending will be different
we will see how it will end.... for now no ending has been written... all kind of endings can be still written even leaving the story as it is in chapter 14.

both of them have shared faults in what has happened so far but only the endings can clarify whether my or your hypothesis is the most correct one

I know you have a problem with my ''moral judgements'' but that is part of the fun and rollercoaster ride of emotions in any given story. It makes the story worth while. Without emotions (and with that comes moral judgements) then what is the point of even opening it to begin with? If its just for porn then there are soooo many easier ways to access porn to get off.

At this point I think we will just have to agree to disagree.

in this i agree with you... spacially with your ''moral judgements'' ... and with your "we will just have to agree to disagree."

in my comments there are never ''moral judgements'' ... as I'm playing music I'm used to detach myself from my real emotions...like good actors who have to play a character they don't look like and who is miles away from their true way of being and thinking.
that's why it would be better not to identify yourself with the MC.
in fact I identify myself as a "super partes" therapist

until the various endings of the many paths that are described in about 6+ months of adventurous events chosen by the couple and willed by the MC...
I will wait before making any judgment on this very promising storyline.

 

[latex lvr]

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

.... instead here the couple decided together to try this road
both of them know exactly what they are doing...


I do not agree with you here.. but we will see if agree or desagree (as you said at the end of your post)
actually in CH14 I h seen Tony and Anne faithful to the plan they both decided at the the start ... they seems to be on the same page also in the Barbados

They decided to do it together yes. Once Anne takes the airline job they are no longer in agreement. Remember, Emma tried to warn the MC he was being deceived, that is not being in agreement. Once the MC and Anne started cheating etc they were no longer in agreement or faithful to their agreement.

the story is perfect ... and endings must be connected to the path the player chooses ... if you avoid the relationship with Martin the ending will be different
we will see how it will end.... for now no ending has been written... all kind of endings can be still written even leaving the story as it is in chapter 14.

The story is perfect in YOUR opinion. While I acknowledge your opinions as valid to you I do not have to agree with them.. I think the story is good but could be better, we shall see how it ends up.

in my comments there are never ''moral judgements'' ... as I'm playing music I'm used to detach myself from my real emotions...like good actors who have to play a character they don't look like and who is miles away from their true way of being and thinking.
that's why it would be better not to identify yourself with the MC.
in fact I identify myself as a "super partes" therapist

I feel sad for you. The whole point of music for me is to stir emotions. Take emotion out of music and its just sound. Not much opportunity to make moral judgements with music, that is more the domain of literature than music.

You can identify with who or however you like. A therapist view is certainly one way to do it, and I do the same at times depending on how the story progresses. Some times the story evolves and I may identify with specific characters, it a personal journey. Thank you for the suggestion not to identify with the MC but no. Good night

 

[88stanford88]

Once the MC and Anne started cheating etc they were no longer in agreement or faithful to their agreement.

there is a no-cheating path and you can avoid cheating paths and keeo swinging that you like.
there are 4 different paths
1. MC cheats and Anne is faithful
2. MC is faithful and Anne is cheating
3. both cheating
4. both faithful
plus others 4 paths for sharing/swinging with and without cheating

The story is perfect in YOUR opinion.

the story is perfect AS IS (it is not an opinion) because i do not want to change it in any path... I love the writting style of this dev
it is you that are complaining about and hoping that the dev will change some story path just for you

I feel sad for you.

why do you feel sad for me?...do you want to talk about me?
Do you want to imagine your opinions about me and my private and my own job as well.
it seems to me that you see things that don't exist in anyone not only in the game

I'm very happy with this game
I always play some scenes when I want to have fun... because Anne is Amazing

the difference between you and me is that you can't have fun when you choose to play the cheat path or the relationship with Martin
i just said this to you:
CHEATING PATHS ARE AND WILL BE AVOIDABLE!

I always get a lot of fun when I play any path of this game.. because it is very well written!
So please don't be sad for me.. because I'm happy about this game!

You can identify with who or however you like. A therapist view is certainly one way to do it, and I do the same at times depending on how the story progresses. Some times the story evolves and I may identify with specific characters, it a personal journey. Thank you for the suggestion not to identify with the MC but no. Good night

I agree and also you can play the game as you want but... i still do not understand why you play avoidable paths that you don't like
those paths are not for you
The endings have not been written yet!

have fun this night!

 

[Grumpy Old Aussie]

there is a no-cheating path and you can avoid cheating paths and keeo swinging that you like.
there are 4 different paths
1. MC cheats and Anne is faithful
2. MC is faithful and Anne is cheating
3. both cheating
4. both faithful
plus others 4 paths for sharing/swinging with and without cheating

Is there a swinging path in TACOS? I don't remember one. And swinging is not why I decided to play TACOS. You keep making assumption about what I like. I like good stories, especially ones that are about Married couples sharing, but I read plenty of others as well such as Summer's Gone (no married couple in sight in this game).

You have lectured people many times that Anne does not cheat and yet number 2 and 3 you say are Anne cheating paths... Thank you for verifying what so many people have tried to tell you, Anne cheats.

the story is perfect AS IS (it is not an opinion) because i do not want to change it in any path... I love the writting style of this dev
it is you that are complaining about and hoping that the dev will change some story path just for you

No the story is not perfect, you said yourself a number of times in previous posts there are mistakes that need to be fixed in the story. That in itself means the story is NOT perfect... The story is perfect is YOUR opinion. Around and around we go. I am happy for you that you don't want to change it, but that doesn't make your opinion is any more 'right' then mine. Just because someone writes a game/story/book doesn't mean it is perfect, it means it is published especially in 2023. I know, I'm a published author.

why do you feel sad for me?...do you want to talk about me?
Do you want to imagine your opinions about me and my private and my own job as well.
it seems to me that you see things that don't exist in anyone not only in the game

Oh dear, let me explain it again.... I am sad you take the emotion out of your music, it just reduces music to sound. IMO that is sad.

I'm very happy with this game
I always play some scenes when I want to have fun... because Anne is Amazing

the difference between you and me is that you can't have fun when you choose to play the cheat path or the relationship with Martin
i just said this to you:
CHEATING PATHS ARE AND WILL BE AVOIDABLE!

I always get a lot of fun when I play any path of this game.. because it is very well written!
So please don't be sad for me.. because I'm happy about this game!

I am glad you are happy with this game, that is great.
I am happy with the game as well, I just think it could be improved. I know you disagree and that is fine. I look forward to enjoying the finished game one day.

I agree and also you can play the game as you want but... i still do not understand why you play avoidable paths that you don't like
those paths are not for you
The endings have not been written yet!

have fun this night!

FFS I will explain again
1. I don't know if I like a path until I actually play the path. Otherwise how would I know if I like that path? That means I will encounter paths/characters/events I don't like along the way some times.
2. I think where you maybe getting confused is, you think because I don't like one particular character/event/etc, that I hate the whole paths they occur on, that is not necessarily so, it means I hate one bit of that path or I may hate the whole path, it depends on many factors. For example, on very long paths TACOS will eventually have, Ryan will be a tiny portion on a couple of paths. Why would I never play those paths again for one small annoying character? It makes no sense.

That is all.

 

[Benson20]

I can't find the sex scene with Nick at sauna, as it's seen in the images carpet. I just can see the groping scene at sauna.
Somebody can tell me how can I get it ??

 

[r0ckh0und]

I can't find the sex scene with Nick at sauna, as it's seen in the images carpet. I just can see the groping scene at sauna.
Somebody can tell me how can I get it ??

After Nick left the whirlpool and James + Matt enter the scene you have to take

• Yes, please continue

option. Just wait for Matt to leave and when MC takes a piss Nick will appear again....

 

[88stanford88]

Is there a swinging path in TACOS? I don't remember one.

this can open another question that I have for you

What does the word swinging mean to you?

Swinging includes sharing as you know the tag is in this thread are you saying that the tag is wrong?
here are swinging scenes

scene with the swinging couple


here after Uncle Robert save them from the rapists Tony get a blowjob from Anne and he share her with Robert


her Tony ask her to help Donny...

if I remember well this scene with Mike is the first choice that starts swing points in stat box

but for me sharing my girl is offer or ask her tdo sex with others in front of me
they will go in a Swinging Club in the end of CH14
(as you know swinging club is used for share your partner with others)

seems to be also Robert Club in CH15 is a Swinger Club for V.I.P.

but wait maybe for you swinging means only "swapping between couples?"... swinging/sharing is the complete name of the tag and swapping is used when we are at least 2 couples

Are you confusing swinging/sharing clubs with swapping clubs (with rules that where only couples are allowed to participate)
Almost all scenes where the husband is present or at the phone are sharing/swinging for me.
Also when she tells about what is happen at the cinema or elsewhere is sharing

Every time Tony knows that she fucked a man is sharing!

No the story is not perfect, you said yourself a number of times in previous posts there are mistakes that need to be fixed in the story.

again don't put words in my mouth that I never said
the story is perfect and I confirm it
but there were mistakes in adding unnecessary characters and scenes that went out the hand of the dev... that were not consistent with the original story
please don't force me to repeat what I already wrote in previous post (because seems that you can't understand the sentences I wrote (like a shoddy and inaccurate musician that is changing the score the maestro wrote)

You have lectured people many times that Anne does not cheat and yet number 2 and 3 you say are Anne cheating paths...

wrong! i just said that cheating is avoidable
please don't put again and agin words in my mouth that I never said, dear.

Oh dear, let me explain it again.... I am sad you take the emotion out of your music, it just reduces music to sound. IMO that is sad.

Thank you dear...
evidently you don't understand what difference there is between a musician who has to perform a romantic piece by Mozart and a dramatic one by Stravinsky in the same evening with the listener having to experience controversial emotions that are transmitted to him by different composers...
this can only be achieved when a trained musician plays
don't be sad for me I'm a real maestro-- it is my job!

I am glad you are happy with this game, that is great.
I am happy with the game as well, I just think it could be improved.

I agree ...weird...
surely the remake was made to be a great improvement in render animation and dialogs...but not to eliminate the cheating route or Anne/Martin relationship in the cheating path.... seemed to me to understand that you were hoping Martin would not be in the game...though I don't see how since Emma exists because she has a past between son and father since Tony's college days
I would also remind you that the old title was "the cuckold." and thatand that there is no cuckold without cheating
And as for TacOS 3, the "stats box" does not include the SWING points counter

So actually only Tony cheating to his stunning wife is possible
But here is what the author said

Question 11

11. Why don't I have swing stats in the new game?

Dev Answer: Swing stats will come later in the game.

. I don't know if I like a path until I actually play the path. Otherwise how would I know if I like that path? That means I will encounter paths/characters/events I don't like along the way some times.

that's right! you have to play s you want

2. I think where you maybe getting confused is, you think because I don't like one particular character/event/etc, that I hate the whole paths they occur on, that is not necessarily so, it means I hate one bit of that path or I may hate the whole path, it depends on many factors. For example, on very long paths TACOS will eventually have, Ryan will be a tiny portion on a couple of paths. Why would I never play those paths again for one small annoying character? It makes no sense.

Ok you are ok but about your example
RYAN i don't know it will be a tiny portion in tacos (in CH14 he has 3 scenes related to cheating path and Ryan is a friend of both of them and in the new version there are improved dialogs and render...
as i said actually the only cheating possible is: Tony cheat on Anne!
I know well the writing style of the dev,,, if there is a Tony cheating path.. for sure there will be the Anne cheating on Tony too.

That is all.

this is the fourth or fifth time you have said that was your closing post...
you remind me someone else with whom I had good discussions ... llatex lvr .. but I think it's just a coincidence

That's all (for now)

 

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Anne is super hot
in this scene she reminds Tony ----- she does not want miss the next couple swinging night

Stunning gal with perfect body!