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I think the best fix for navigation would be a map icon with click to travel. one thing id love to see in the beyond is a current location marker that would be a huge improvement. on a final personal note i pray we get to dominate the secretary i wanna collar her so bad hehe.
 
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I suspect that's not going to get a lot of positive reactions, but what the fuck is it with comedy for games on this page? It's reliable godawful.

Great art, writing might need some cleaning up, it's a bit clunky, but could be worse ... but yeah. That cringe, not for me.
 

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How much sex is in the actual game right now?
I am loving the preview of the artwork but worry there wont be much sex involving the MC this early in the game.
Yeah, it is early in development as you said. . but depends on the expectations. There is a number of scenes, not too many of course but I cannot judge for others if its enough. Honestly if you want a bigger number I would say wait 2 - 3 more updates and you would be set. Have a nice rest of your day! :)

I think the best fix for navigation would be a map icon with click to travel. one thing id love to see in the beyond is a current location marker that would be a huge improvement. on a final personal note i pray we get to dominate the secretary i wanna collar her so bad hehe.
I sometimes find myself stunned at how much I agree with some comments here. Absolutely, Im making an indicator for the location and will see how to improve the navigation - its the no1 priority right now.
As far as the secretary goes . . . .
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I suspect that's not going to get a lot of positive reactions, but what the fuck is it with comedy for games on this page? It's reliable godawful.

Great art, writing might need some cleaning up, it's a bit clunky, but could be worse ... but yeah. That cringe, not for me.
Understandable, not everyone likes the same things after all. I have so much fun making the game - it's not a feeling of having a job- so giving it pieces that fulfill me is just part of the journey in this case. What would you consider to be good comedy and how would you go about implementing it? Thanks for the feedback.
 
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I suspect that's not going to get a lot of positive reactions, but what the fuck is it with comedy for games on this page? It's reliable godawful.

Great art, writing might need some cleaning up, it's a bit clunky, but could be worse ... but yeah. That cringe, not for me.
personally i enjoy the comedy in this if you want to see cringe comedy play harem highlander lol
 

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Yeah, it is early in development as you said. . but depends on the expectations. There is a number of scenes, not too many of course but I cannot judge for others if its enough. Honestly if you want a bigger number I would say wait 2 - 3 more updates and you would be set. Have a nice rest of your day! :)


I sometimes find myself stunned at how much I agree with some comments here. Absolutely, Im making an indicator for the location and will see how to improve the navigation - its the no1 priority right now.
As far as the secretary goes . . . .
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No worries, I know that the game is still in development so I'm not expecting too much.

I ask because it seems some Dev's will rush to get that Vaginal Sex tag on their games as fast as possible by putting in a voyeurism scene not involving the MC. Which to me, someone who does not want to see scenes involving other males besides the MC, is a huge let down. So any time I see the Vaginal Sex and Voyeurism tags, I have to ask. Are the vaginal sex scenes in the game involving the MC?

Also, since I'm here, are the voyeurism scenes avoidable?
 
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What would you consider to be good comedy and how would you go about implementing it?
Defining good comedy; you aren't asking the easy questions, eh? ^^;

I don't think I can give an actually useful answer. What made Monty Python good? Compared to Mel Brooks? Or Leslie Nilson? Or, I don't know, somebody like David Mitchell?

I can just say that when I look at a fantasy scene and there's no internal motivation as to why it's plastered with a meme, or a dialogue that suddenly veers into comedic tone with, again, no specific motivation then that's cringe to me, not funny (and in fact most of the above are at their best when they are being dead serious. There's rarely forced comedic tone).

Personally I'd question whether comedy should even be attempted. I get the impression a lot of creators (I'm speaking in general terms now) kinda go, "well, it's a porn game, it's not exactly going to be GGR Martin (< insert thematically appropriate author you like), so might as well make it funny". In a sort of implied "that's easier". Unfortunately if you aren't trying for Martin you are then accidentally trying for Pratchett instead. And who'd be convinced it's easy to write a Discworld book? ^^; In that regard I'd rather have authors tone things down a bit, make it lighthearted alright, but stay about there.

The other thing is ... again, maybe just me, but when I want to read sexy stuff, why would I even want to laugh? That's not exactly sexual to me ^^; So even if somebody did succeed I'd wonder whether a porn game is the right place for that.

But if it is done, then I can definitely say that "meme"s aren't good comedy. There's nothing witty about, nothing creative; there's no interesting setup, and no surprising (but possibly insightful) punch line. And I certainly don't want them stuck in a fantasy setting (unless there's good and specific reason to it).
 
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I think I found a bug. I found the Door and the Emerald before ever finding the witch's hut so when I showed up there the 2nd time (after getting the potion from the keeper) she had a hot version of herself super imposed over the hag version, I was able to make the glue for the sock and then fucked her and got transported home, only problem is, she NEVER told me about the emerald but I have the quest anyways and am unable to complete it.
 
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Damn, I'm so sorry about the bug. It's just a typo (preistess instead of priestess). I'm fixing it right away and again sorry for the inconvenience.
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Are the vaginal sex scenes in the game involving the MC?
Yes.

Also, since I'm here, are the voyeurism scenes avoidable?
Some can. The art quest is forced IIRC.

Where is the keeper! Where is the east road? So hard to navigate man!!
Leave your house and click the bottom part of the screen (look for glows), then forward. You should be at an area with a building and a birdhouse above you. Click the path left and then forward again. Click the building here, then the top of the stairs (where the plant is).
 
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The map is bugged I think. You move in a certain direction and ends entering an area completely different the one showed on the map. After killing the troll, you found a letter. This is all for this way? You can't pass yet? After I killed the monster at the lake, I took the chalice. But can't talk to the keeper about it, and it is not appearing at my inventory anymore. The quest with Amelia is bugged too. I am painting the girls with her, selling the paints to Garibaldi, yet can't advance her quest beyond "I need to tell Amelia the news about her art"...
 
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Leave your house and click the bottom part of the screen (look for glows), then forward. You should be at an area with a building and a birdhouse above you. Click the path left and then forward again. Click the building here, then the top of the stairs (where the plant is).
Do you mean here? I can only go to that store and the bar nowhere else!!
 
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No worries, I know that the game is still in development so I'm not expecting too much.

I ask because it seems some Dev's will rush to get that Vaginal Sex tag on their games as fast as possible by putting in a voyeurism scene not involving the MC. Which to me, someone who does not want to see scenes involving other males besides the MC, is a huge let down. So any time I see the Vaginal Sex and Voyeurism tags, I have to ask. Are the vaginal sex scenes in the game involving the MC?

Also, since I'm here, are the voyeurism scenes avoidable?
I absolutely understand you. Others have asked similar things as well and I can assure you - there is no one other than the MC who has any sex in the game nor will there ever be as far as I'm concerned. It also turns me off a bit to see that. Some voyeur scenes are unavoidable and some are, but are mostly just nude or provocative. There is just no need to have scenes not involving a character that's not the MC in a game like this . . in my opinion. Glad you asked and I hope that cleared things up :)
 
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Defining good comedy; you aren't asking the easy questions, eh? ^^;

I don't think I can give an actually useful answer. What made Monty Python good? Compared to Mel Brooks? Or Leslie Nilson? Or, I don't know, somebody like David Mitchell?

I can just say that when I look at a fantasy scene and there's no internal motivation as to why it's plastered with a meme, or a dialogue that suddenly veers into comedic tone with, again, no specific motivation then that's cringe to me, not funny (and in fact most of the above are at their best when they are being dead serious. There's rarely forced comedic tone).

Personally I'd question whether comedy should even be attempted. I get the impression a lot of creators (I'm speaking in general terms now) kinda go, "well, it's a porn game, it's not exactly going to be GGR Martin (< insert thematically appropriate author you like), so might as well make it funny". In a sort of implied "that's easier". Unfortunately if you aren't trying for Martin you are then accidentally trying for Pratchett instead. And who'd be convinced it's easy to write a Discworld book? ^^; In that regard I'd rather have authors tone things down a bit, make it lighthearted alright, but stay about there.

The other thing is ... again, maybe just me, but when I want to read sexy stuff, why would I even want to laugh? That's not exactly sexual to me ^^; So even if somebody did succeed I'd wonder whether a porn game is the right place for that.

But if it is done, then I can definitely say that "meme"s aren't good comedy. There's nothing witty about, nothing creative; there's no interesting setup, and no surprising (but possibly insightful) punch line. And I certainly don't want them stuck in a fantasy setting (unless there's good and specific reason to it).
Thank you for the clarification and thoughts. There is a noteworthy point in this about the not attempting to be GGR Martin and ending up as Pratchett instead although I think you get the process a bit wrong. It is not "I want to have a funny scene here and there and lets think up some joke". . it is instead "Oh that's funny, how could I incorporate that into the game" . We first have some funny Ideas. I myself and my friend (a writer that helps me from time to time) have always been joking around 60% of the time so it's natural to us - then when we have something we laughed at, we start tinkering with it for the game. I made the first release myself and there is just no way not to show any of my personality in it whatever it may be. Also, the memes are not necessarily meant to even be funny, It's a symbol of a community I've been apart of and have based my identity to a degree on - and the people who know about them, appreciate them. So it is a combination of things at the end - Of course it's a small game and has to have personality, there is no team of people or a corporation making it. But you are absolutely correct about "selling yourself short" mentality of just "look at me, I don't take it seriously anyway". I just don't think that is the case here. I'm grateful for taking your time and saying your thoughts, and you can always speak your mind about anything here, no hesitation. :)
 
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I think I found a bug. I found the Door and the Emerald before ever finding the witch's hut so when I showed up there the 2nd time (after getting the potion from the keeper) she had a hot version of herself super imposed over the hag version, I was able to make the glue for the sock and then fucked her and got transported home, only problem is, she NEVER told me about the emerald but I have the quest anyways and am unable to complete it.
Okay so I've heard of a similar bug from my friends who help me test the game before updates but I could never replicate it no matter how much I tried. I've tried again now for an hour or so but to no avail. :D I'm not sure what may be even causing it, I feel stupid about it honestly and am really sorry for the inconvenience. I will take more time to find the problem but in the meantime I can make you a save file which doesn't have that problem if you would like, It would make me very happy to solve that for you. You can always DM me anywhere you like and I can send it as soon as I can.

Where is the keeper! Where is the east road? So hard to navigate man!!
It is on the scene with the birdhouse, the one you need to cross while heading to town. Ive marked the place with red. Hope this helps :)
 

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The map is bugged I think. You move in a certain direction and ends entering an area completely different the one showed on the map. After killing the troll, you found a letter. This is all for this way? You can't pass yet? After I killed the monster at the lake, I took the chalice. But can't talk to the keeper about it, and it is not appearing at my inventory anymore. The quest with Amelia is bugged too. I am painting the girls with her, selling the paints to Garibaldi, yet can't advance her quest beyond "I need to tell Amelia the news about her art"...
You can easily check on the map if its displaying the wrong way - you can hover over a certain area with your mouse and it would say for example "witches hut". I will also add a player indicator the next update so it will be even easier. I can take a look if it is showing wrong and try to fix it. The path after the troll will reveal a new area of the map in the later updates, it is much work to make the areas and we first wanted to make the game play more nicely as it is so for now it just starts a new questline. Someone mentioned the chalice part and it was indeed not working correctly, I have fixed that now so it will work. Finally, about the Amelia quest - you will need to finish Garibaldis quest and after it Kate to continue with the sister. It should not be displaying "I need to tell Amelia the news about her art" though, that's also my mistake. Thank you very much for all the info and pointing out the flaws. I hope it is still enjoyable to play for you and am truly sorry for the bugs and mistakes . . . I'm trying very hard to find them beforehand.
 
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