VN Ren'Py Abandoned The Change [v0.1.2] [AlyaStudio]

[CamaroFan432]

How do you mean there is not sexual

There is not a voyeur scene. The mom and dad having sex in their room. There is just the sound of having sex hear in the house.

The player sees the scene, so how is it not a voyeur scene?

 

[AlyaStudio]

The player sees the scene, so how is it not a voyeur scene?

Mmm...okay.... so that means the only persons who can have sex is the MC only?

 

[CamaroFan432]

Mmm...okay.... so that means the only persons who can have sex is the MC only?

Let me make it clear: Harem fans want the MC have sex with all LIs and don't want other men or women (if they are not part of the harem) near their LIs. We all know, that even if the mom is already a LI, she may have sex with the dad, but harem fans don't want to see it. Harem doesn't mix with swinging, sharing, cuckhold, NTR or voyeur. In case of voyeur, there are exceptions like a masturbating girl, two harem girls starting without the MC or two harem girls getting more or less the ok from the MC (and player) two have sex with eachother. But most of the time showing another dick near a harem girl or a LI is a red flag and turn this thread in the long run into a shitshow. Also the fight between the two people over the body of the MC is already concerning. Harem fans won't like it.

I suggest you come clear on what you're planning so the people won't complain and starting to bail now before unwanted scenarios start.

 

[ilon55]

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The old man gets a boner looking at clothed women. So Gerard is a 70-year-old virgin or maybe he's never seen an attractive woman in his whole life?
I know that young devs lack the experience to properly describe the older people's sex habits, but sometimes I'm still amazed by how much they suck in this area.

Speaking of previously mentioned "Young Again". There it works because ppl around MC are basically impressed by how suddenly the stupid teenager has turned into a man. Here it looks quite the opposite. An elementary school kid jumped into MC's body, not some old dude. He's more immature than young MC. Sorry, but the change doesn't work for me. I'm not interested in playing as an old fart behaving like a little boy who's never seen a pussy.

 

[Qmil679]

I saw this game today and with preview images, I liked it. Mainly, I was encouraged to play by ... mc mother. She looks amazing. And redhead. (I love redheads)

But once I read these comments about mother, I don't think I will play. I don't want to watch one of my Li having sex with someone else. Even if it's the father of MC.

 

[Draverik]

The player sees the scene, so how is it not a voyeur scene?

Because then every sex scene would be considered voyeur which would make the term redundant.

 

[Ragnar]

Mmm...okay.... so that means the only persons who can have sex is the MC only?

There is a group of players who feel threatened by the mere presence of another man in a game. They want all the women to be virgins too. At the end of the day you should tell your story the way you want. You can't please some people.

 

[baloneysammich]

Something like that is at least considerd as a unwanted voyeur scene. And most harem fans don't like them. IF you're one of the people who don't mind, feel free to enjoy it. But I saw more harem fans on F95 who don't like something like this, than people who like it or at least don't have problem with it. I spoke for the majority that I know of. And I'm one of those, and I won't start a ramble "that's NTR", but at least state my concern, that's not liked and not a very good decision. You don't have to like my opinion and don't need to share it, but please stop kink shaming.

It's not about me kink shaming, rather I'd say I'm opposing your kink-splaining. I'm a harem fan and hardly play any non-harem games. And I'd probably never enjoy a game that an NTR fan would enjoy.

But I'm not part of the harem-fan subset that goes up in arms if a game so much as acknowledges the existence of other dicks (and generally seems to rally behind the anti-NTR banner). Just because they - or I guess I should say "you all" - are the most vocal doesn't mean you're the majority; people don't complain about things that don't bother them.

 

[Chimba]

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Models and renders look good,but oh man this is weird , what is going to be the theme of the game? who cuck who? having 2 "personalities" in 1 body and suddenly fighting over the body is a good idea for cuck game no harem, (that is, the old man can take control of the body and fuck the mc's family while he can't do anything to avoid it and just watch.....)


This needs "Possesion tag","voyeur Tag (sister scene),masturbation Tag,"creep Tag" ( Jk jk)maybe female protagonist tag and multiple protagonist Tag (if there are going to be choices with other characters in the future like in the scene of the mother in the bedroom the player has choices with her...), the scene of the parents does not interest me in the least, it is not even avoidable, the cliffhanger where you see the sister walking and apparently she faints,
it seems that she has no underwear this does not give good vibes

Edit:Game really need a list Of planned tags in genre spoiler and if posible some info in Dev notes. (otherwise this thread is going to get interesting )

 

[Deleted member 3452155]

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Models and renders look good,but oh man this is weird , what is going to be the theme of the game? who cuck who? having 2 "personalities" in 1 body and suddenly fighting over the body is a good idea for cuck game no harem, (that is, the old man can take control of the body and fuck the mc's family while he can't do anything to avoid it and just watch.....)


This needs "Possesion tag","voyeur Tag (sister scene) maybe female protagonist tag and multiple protagonist Tag (if there are going to be choices with other characters in the future like in the scene of the mother in the bedroom the player has choices with her...), the scene of the parents does not interest me in the least, it is not even avoidable, the cliffhanger where you see the sister walking and apparently she faints,
it seems that she has no underwear this does not give good vibes

That's why I commented up there, it's looking like a camouflaged ntr, to see if it fools some more unsuspecting.

 

[Deleted member 3452155]

I played it again, and it looks like it will have both personalities, so yes, I believe it will be an ntr and sharing, camouflaged as possession. A pity, I liked the models of the mother and sisters, which is good for the fans of these mentioned themes, they will have a party.

 

[AlyaStudio]

I played it again, and it looks like it will have both personalities, so yes, I believe it will be an ntr and sharing, camouflaged as possession. A pity, I liked the models of the mother and sisters, which is good for the fans of these mentioned themes, they will have a party.

I don't know if this comment counts as a spoiler, but consider yourself warned.

Gerard is basically the main villain, he's taken over Joel's body and is living out all his fantasies in the first few days. We're not supposed to relate to him, Joel needs to deal with him if he wants to take his own body back over

The story is basically about Joel facing some very weird consequences for what he does in the Prologue and then having to clean up the mess this causes in his own life. The reason we named Gerard and Joel separately will become clear over the following days in the story.

I hope this clears up some of the issues. I can't go into more detail right now without reaching outright spoiler territory, but we're really thankful for the feedback you guys are giving us.

 

[Deleted member 3452155]

I don't know if this comment counts as a spoiler, but consider yourself warned.

Gerard is basically the main villain, he's taken over Joel's body and is living out all his fantasies in the first few days. We're not supposed to relate to him, Joel needs to deal with him if he wants to take his own body back over

The story is basically about Joel facing some very weird consequences for what he does in the Prologue and then having to clean up the mess this causes in his own life. The reason we named Gerard and Joel separately will become clear over the following days in the story.

I hope this clears up some of the issues. I can't go into more detail right now without reaching outright spoiler territory, but we're really thankful for the feedback you guys are giving us.

Okay, but the main question (which I believe more people have too), is if in the first sexual intercourse, it would be with the mind of the mc or the old man.
But I want to make it very clear, I'm not suggesting you change the script or anything like that, make the game you imagined, what you idealized. Don't keep changing the script based on other people's suggestions, because it will end up in a mess, and distance yourself from what you imagined.
I made these comments (questions), because I've been through this a few times, we like a game, we support the developer, and up front he changes the whole course of the story (sometimes for money, that stuff), and ends up putting something that we don't like, which generates frustration and indignation.
So I believe that to avoid confusion, endless arguments, it would be good for you to make this clear, if you will have these scenes with the old man in charge.
I know this will be a spoiler, but you should know that not all surprises are good.
And if we come across these scenes (which, yes, will be considered ntr by most), there will be a flood of negative comments here.
Anyway, make your game, but if possible, warn in advance about possible tags that generate confusion and divide opinions.
In my case, I will follow the game through the comments, I don't want to be disappointed (if any) again.

 

[goulet1995]

I don't know if this comment counts as a spoiler, but consider yourself warned.

Gerard is basically the main villain, he's taken over Joel's body and is living out all his fantasies in the first few days. We're not supposed to relate to him, Joel needs to deal with him if he wants to take his own body back over

The story is basically about Joel facing some very weird consequences for what he does in the Prologue and then having to clean up the mess this causes in his own life. The reason we named Gerard and Joel separately will become clear over the following days in the story.

I hope this clears up some of the issues. I can't go into more detail right now without reaching outright spoiler territory, but we're really thankful for the feedback you guys are giving us.

i know its kind of spoiler but will we be able to shut down the old man taking the lead during sex scenes?i can get over the mom and dad scene hoping there isnt more like that but im probably out if its not avoidable for the old man to be apart of the sex scenes

 

[zeus04]

 

[Rannell]

WTF would I want to play an old man trapped in my body? I'm NTR'ing myself.... seriously WTF.

 

[Soggy Bread]

Gonna pass on this one, I quit when I realized you'll be getting scenes with Gerard in control of the MC's body. Too similar to NTR for me. (Doesn't matter if it technically doesn't fit the definition or not, it still feels like crap.)

oh no

 

[Soggy Bread]

I saw this game today and with preview images, I liked it. Mainly, I was encouraged to play by ... mc mother. She looks amazing. And redhead. (I love redheads)

But once I read these comments about mother, I don't think I will play. I don't want to watch one of my Li having sex with someone else. Even if it's the father of MC.

Yeah same
Sad most of m/s games with really good renders have this stuff

 

[CamaroFan432]

It's not about me kink shaming, rather I'd say I'm opposing your kink-splaining. I'm a harem fan and hardly play any non-harem games. And I'd probably never enjoy a game that an NTR fan would enjoy.

But I'm not part of the harem-fan subset that goes up in arms if a game so much as acknowledges the existence of other dicks (and generally seems to rally behind the anti-NTR banner). Just because they - or I guess I should say "you all" - are the most vocal doesn't mean you're the majority; people don't complain about things that don't bother them.

I just wanted to warn the dev about the more hardcore harem-fans. Yes I'm also part of the harem crowd and would normally just say, that I'm not a fan of a specific scene but would never suggest to change it just for my sake. And I don't mind it if there are other people fucking. But I don't like it if it interferes with my etablished relationships or LIs, that are also into my MC.

There is a group of players who feel threatened by the mere presence of another man in a game. They want all the women to be virgins too. At the end of the day you should tell your story the way you want. You can't please some people.

Yeah, some people want they LIs to be virgins, but there are still people out there, like me, who don't care if a LI has expirience or not. If a girl is a virgin, yes than I'm happy that my MC is the first dick in her. If not, that's alright as long as I don't have to see scences from her past. I doesn't care for those. That's the same with the m/d scene in this game, I know it happens, but I don't want to see it, because I don't care about it.

To close my statement: Yes, I'm also a harem fan, I do very much like harem+incest. Other relationships can happen and I'm ok with it, as long as I'm not forced to see it. Because for me the other sex scenes are just random stuff, and if I want to see random sex, than I go to pornhub and watch a video. But there are hardcore anti-NTR harem-fans that will be very vocal. I just wanted to point out, this game develops in a way that those fans won't like and turn this thread upside down. And the last comment by the dev about the old man being in control will be a much bigger problem with harem-fans than the random m/d sex scene.

Like already suggested, make it clear, what your plan is, dev. Put it under spoiler, then nobody can cry about not being informed about the plans. People, who like it, will stay, all others will bail. As for me, it's somewhat clear, what you want to tell for a story. I don't want you to change your plans, stick to them and develop the game that you imagined. I wish you good luck with your project, but because it doesn't match my taste (the MC/old man part), I will take my leave.

 

[JohnnyR6]

Great start. I like the body possession idea. The sisters are hot.