The Daz Studio and Related Product Deals Thread (Daz3D, Renderosity, Renderotica, etc.)

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TL;DR: just read the colored highlights

Today's DAZ3D deal features limited number of $1 items from a list of 2500, roughly:
  • 350 Genesis 9
  • ~100 both G9 + G8
  • 650 G8F
  • 250 G8M
  • 250 G3F
  • 100 G3M
  • 200 older characters
  • 800 no-character given (environments, props, extras, etc)
You can get up to 13 items from this list for $1 each, with significant buy-in:
  • 3, 6, or 10 $1 items for buying 1,2,3 today's New Releases
  • 3 more $1 items with a coupon and buying one Still New Release (yesterday's New Releases, I think)
Buying multiple New Releases also drives down the prices of the New Releases and Still New Releases and several other deals.

The upshot is that, with 8 tokens with Daz+, if you buy 3 New Releases originally priced $16.99 each, 30% off so $11.89, you end up at:
  • $5.82 per New Release, times 3
  • $1 times 10 items
  • about $28 for 13 items, or just over $2 each
  • add an extra $5.50 for a Still New Release and 3 more $1 items, gives 4 more for around $2 each
Without tokens, $5.82 increases to $8.32, so $35 for 13 items, just under $3 each.
When I see these sort of $1 or whatever deals, I usually sort the selections by price high to low. There's a few bundles in the mix right now, with regular pricing in the around $40 and higher range, which stretches that $1 + buy-in a bit further. Just a thought!
 

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The problem with these deals with a high buy-in giving access to cheap discounted assets. is that you can easily be fooled by the low price of the discounted items, or only see the high initial price and miss a good bargain.
Here is how I deal with these kind of deals.

First, I try to estimate what would be a price that I would consider as a good deal for the buy-in. This price must be somehow realistic, ie a price that I could probably get at daz in a good sale within a few months/years delay. It must take into account the actual base price of the item and its interest for my projects. If the asset is something that I really like, this price can be $5-6 depending on the base price; If I consider it as may-be-useful $3-4; If it is fun but I do not see an immediate use, maybe $2; If the buy-in is definitely useless, well, $0.

Second, subtract this amount from the price that you will pay for the buy-in and distribute the remainder to the cheap items.
For instance if the buy-in is $15, and that I consider that $3 would be a proper deal for it, I pay an extra $12 for it and it must be dispatched to the cheap discounted assets. If I purchase it with 3 items, that is an extra $4 on every item.

Now, you can decide if the price of the cheap assets + $4 is a good deal and if the purchase is interesting.

I use this method since several months and I find it very useful to improve my purchases and to avoid false good deals.
(And for what concerns this specific sale, it seems rather good, but YMMV).
 
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New batch of freebies at Daz3D.com. You can either sort the main shop page from low to high, or go here:



The free 3d models banner has been replaced/no longer appears on the main shop page, at least for me, hence the mention.

There's also some sort of wishlist sale going on, I'll leave it to you professionals to dissect the details.

More of the usual at Renderosity. The 50%/60% off 'wonders' sale looks like it will run through Sunday/May 4th...



Nothing particularly wowing me atm, ymmv.
 

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There's also some sort of wishlist sale going on, I'll leave it to you professionals to dissect the details.
You can stack that with the still ongoing "Guilty by Association" sale here: where you can get some stuff at 80% off, when combined with the wishlist sale and tokens you can get things to ~90% (I only have a few tokens, so I can't test).

Seems like the biggest discount (with the most reasonable buy in) you can get right now but I didn't test all that much.
 

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Dumb question, does anybody know if it is now possible to install in parallel 4.24 while keeping also 4.23 ? I think the answer is still no, but just to be on the safe side... in the Daz forum I have seen some post from few days ago referring to problems even just doing rendering, I would definitively not want to get my installation screwed up, I has too much stuff (though it is true that if it does not delete the contents from the library and does not change the version of the database, I can try to backup the installation).
 
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Dumb question, does anybody know if it is now possible to install in parallel 4.24 while keeping also 4.23 ? I think the answer is still no, but just to be on the safe side... in the Daz forum I have seen some post from few days ago referring to problems even just doing rendering, I would definitively not want to get my installation screwed up, I has too much stuff (though it is true that if it does not delete the contents from the library and does not change the version of the database, I can try to backup the installation).
It IS possible to have two versions of Daz Studio installed, but it's a bit complicated to set up. Here's one thread that talks about this...



Supposedly you can 'share' libraries, but things like CMS would probably need to have separate installs. I haven't tried this though, so you may need to do some googling/reading...

You can also start up two Daz instances, but again this gets a bit complicateed. You need separate shortcuts, and there's a 'trick'. Not sure if 4.23 changes this possibility, again google for info.

Edit: One other note. If you aren't aware, F95Zone maintains a repository of sorts of previous versions of Daz Studio, here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/daz-studio-repository.215178/

This allows you to avoid having to submit a ticket to the Daz3D.com customer service team to get a previous version of Daz Studio. This is useful mainly for older products that don't play well with current versions of Daz, but the downside is that some things introduced more recently may not work properly. As an example, I'm currently using 4.16, and a number of more recent hair products often don't work/show correctly.
 
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Sorry for offtop.
How much money i need to buy that stuff if i start learn daz?
It's possible to use/learn Daz Studio completely for free (computer hardware costs aside). Of course, where they get you is with the cool product assets that aren't free, but there are a decent number number of free assets as well, more than enough to get you started.

You'll probably want to get an Nvidia GPU though in order to use Iray. You CAN do CPU only renders in Iray, but it's painfully slow when doing this, so it's just better if you have an Nvidia GPU with decent amounts of VRAM, say 8 GB as a ballpark. you can manage with 6GB of VRAM or less, but you'll be more limited with scene complexity/size. Worst case, the render drops to CPU only if you don't have enough VRAM for that scene, and it takes a long ass time to render.

With recent versions of Daz (4.23 and newer), some 'advanced' features are 'walled off' unless you have a Premier membership, but this is a recent development. But that's a different discussion, the point is that you CAN grab a free copy of Daz Studio along with free product packages to get started.
 
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It's possible to use/learn Daz Studio completely for free (computer hardware costs aside). Of course, where they get you is with the cool product assets that aren't free, but there are a decent number number of free assets as well, more than enough to get you started.

You'll probably want to get an Nvidia GPU though in order to use Iray. You CAN do CPU only renders in Iray, but it's painfully slow when doing this, so it's just better if you have an Nvidia GPU with decent amounts of VRAM, say 8 GB as a ballpark. you can manage with 6GB of VRAM or less, but you'll be more limited with scene complexity/size. Worst case, the render drops to CPU only if you don't have enough VRAM for that scene, and it takes a long ass time to render.

With recent versions of Daz (4.23 and newer), some 'advanced' features are 'walled off' unless you have a Plus or Premier membership, but this is a recent development. But that's a different discussion, the point is that you CAN grab a free copy of Daz Studio along with free product packages to get started.
Thanks a lot!
 
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Dumb question, does anybody know if it is now possible to install in parallel 4.24 while keeping also 4.23 ? I think the answer is still no, but just to be on the safe side... in the Daz forum I have seen some post from few days ago referring to problems even just doing rendering, I would definitively not want to get my installation screwed up, I has too much stuff (though it is true that if it does not delete the contents from the library and does not change the version of the database, I can try to backup the installation).
I believe that you can have three different versions of Daz Studio installed on the same system at the present time: the general release, the Public build for v.4.X and the Public build for version 6 (Daz Studio 2025). Actually, that's my situation right now. Although admittedly, I stick to the general release version for the most part.

One thing that I like to do, in case I encounter serious issues with the latest build installed, is to always keep backup copies of the previous version. That way, I could uninstall the one giving me headaches and install back the previous working version.

You can always download the packages for .


Sorry for offtop.
How much money i need to buy that stuff if i start learn daz?
For learning, you don't need to spend any money. There's also genuine free stuff for Daz that you can download from different sites. The Daz store itself offers freebies for all users like twice per month or so. And of course, there's always the possibility of getting a lot of non-free stuff for the application for free via websites like this one, for example.

If I were you, I wouldn't spend any money at the beginning. Once you've learnt the basics and experienced if you enjoy using the application or not, you'll be in a better spot to start investing in it if you want to.
 

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Sorry for offtop.
How much money i need to buy that stuff if i start learn daz?
You can do a fair bit for free, the assets (model, environments, etc.) can be expensive but there is some basic stuff with the Daz Studio software and there is also the Free Stuff for Daz thread and that will get you started.
 

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Sorry for offtop.
How much money i need to buy that stuff if i start learn daz?
As already said by others, zero, aside hardware.
Even for hardware, a suggestion which is unfashionable but proven - if you do not have a GPU and want to get NVIDIA, better getting a second hand quadro (the latest model of the same category not yet available is called "pro"), rather than the latest gaming one, unless you plan to do a lot of gaming. If they are RTX, better, though it is not strictly needed.
If you can get two, better (if there is more than one card, Iray will use all of them, though that works better if they are of the same category), but better one with good quantity of VRAM than two with small VRAM, if you think you may end up trying to do some complex scene (for the textures).
I did not do a scientific testing approach, but a decent compromise can be a Titan V - it does not have the RTX raytracing hardware acceleration (for video, it has anyway hardware encoders and decoders), 12 GB of VRAM, a very large VRAM to GPU throughput, and when I tried to do dForce simulations, it came out it was much faster than an RTX two generations after in the same machine. Even if it was called "geforce", in reality it was made for scientific research (were the first generation of cards with tensor cores) I suspect it is the reason it seems to run the OpenCL (used by Daz for dForce simulations) better than a card of higher category same generation and a the RTX two generations after.
Least but not least, mine costed much more because I bought it when it came out to do other kind of stuff, but nowadays you can see offers to get one second hand for around 450 EUR/500 USD or even a bit less plus import tax (well, from China, if you in USA, the "tax" part may be a problem).
There is no explicit indication from NVIDIA, but a "guesstimate" :) is that should be still supported by new versions of CUDA and Iray for the next 4 years (or maybe more).

For the assets, as other said, unfortunately a good site for free stuff, sharecg, just closed, but there are hundreds of assets for free (and I really mean free) on the internet.
Check on Renderosity and Renderhub, they have lots of them, Daz has some (but IMHO the average quality or "freshness" of the free ones on Renderosity and Renderhub is higher), occasionally even renderotica has some that are not just an addon for other products, shard3d also has a few.
Also look on DeviantArt, there can be more confusing to find them because it is not focusing on that, but there are people that make available some resources, sometime even outfits, but also partial or even full morphs (e.g. tritiumCG, Magnus1781, and a couple of others like puredigital101 and dazwraps do occasionally have something for free), also on Patreon you can find stuff that becomes available for free after some time.
 

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Supposedly you can 'share' libraries, but things like CMS would probably need to have separate installs. I haven't tried this though, so you may need to do some googling/reading...
Thanks, I looked, it confirms my observations, IF DAZ has not changed the way the application is installed with 4.24 - in the past I already backed up daz simply by brutally copying the folder with the program and putting it back when things were screwed up by the upgrade.

About the CMS, the CMS DB is actually PostgreSQL, a very solid open source database, you can have n client applications connecting to the same database without a sweat, so there is no need to have a separate installation.
That would further complicate a bit, you can have n installations of postgreSQL, I have a second postgresql, different version, that I do not use for DAZ, but then you would need to also make sure to indicate for each a different port number, and make sure that each DAZ installation is configured with the correct DB port number for its postgresql installation.
The worry is more about the installation recreating (overwriting) the existing DB or changing the DB schema in a way that cannot be read from the previous version, if I tell it to install in parallel instead of doing an upgrade in place - though in theory till when the version of the postgresql is the same, I can always back it up and put it back.
It is just that if I have to do all that, and then eventually rollback, it risks to be quite some time lost, and one wrong step, can be enough to mess things (also because to be sure, need to backup also the DIM config and directory, DAZ profile, etc.).


You can also start up two Daz instances, but again this gets a bit complicateed. You need separate shortcuts, and there's a 'trick'. Not sure if 4.23 changes this possibility, again google for info.
Oh, I have already done it, thanks.
To be honest, I used the small script that can be downloaded around, but I have noticed in reality that script simply uses an option (badly documented, though can be found with a search) you can give on the command line.
The advantage of the script compared with modifying the shortcut is that in theory you could use the script to launch n copies, while to do the same with shortcuts you would need to create a shortcut for each copy, though in practice I only tried with two instance anyway, because that was all I needed.
In all fairness, the script also has other options, it is more complete, you can chose a different configuration path etc. but also those, I think are are all command line options, it is just that they seem not to be documented - I suspect the script was something they used internally for testing, although I know it was then released in a forum on the DAZ web site.
Also, iray is solid enough to have more than one program trying to use the graphic cards at the same time, in the end GPUs are about parallelisation, but I would not try to render from to instances of Daz at the same time, I think DAZ itself would crash then.
But to do e.g. dForce simulation with one card in one instance, while in another instance I load another scene/character and/or do a render, it worked fine (though I carefully told the second instance not to use for Iray the card that was being used for dForce by the first instance).
I am sure 4.23 did not take that away, is the version I am using. It is also probable with 4.24 will still work, having the same codebase.
A different matter is 2025, there it seems they changed libraries and good part of the code base, so I would not be surprised if that breaks down (and not only that :-().

Edit: One other note. If you aren't aware, F95Zone maintains a repository of sorts of previous versions of Daz Studio, here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/daz-studio-repository.215178/

This allows you to avoid having to submit a ticket to the Daz3D.com customer service team to get a previous version of Daz Studio. This is useful mainly for older products that don't play well with current versions of Daz, but the downside is that some things introduced more recently may not work properly. As an example, I'm currently using 4.16, and a number of more recent hair products often don't work/show correctly.
Thanks, I had found that once, but unfortunately they did not have the version that I was looking for (because at the time I did not want to go two versions back and risk having to reinstall everything).
But I saw that now they also have 4.21, and I tried to "smarten up" a bit after seeing some upgrade screw-up, and try to keep a couple of versions back on a disk - though I think 4.21 was the last one for which one can get a DIM package, after, is exe, and for 4.23, I have only 4.23.0.1, the updates after were done online by the software.
 

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Btw. the wishlist sale from yesterday stacks with the wishlist sale from today, the discounts in that "Guilty by Association" sale are actually >90% now for me, and I only have 6 tokens. Downside is you need two new releases.

And regarding all that talk about using multiple installations. That works fine, I have that running for a long time now, I just copy the Daz Studio directory so that it contains the version name at the end and then make a symlink. So I point "DAZStudio4" to whatever version I want to use (usually the most recent one).

And then I use powershell scripts to switch between versions automatically:

Code:
Add-Type @"
    using System;
    using System.Runtime.InteropServices;
    public class WinAp {
      [DllImport("user32.dll")]
      [return: MarshalAs(UnmanagedType.Bool)]
      public static extern bool SetForegroundWindow(IntPtr hWnd);

      [DllImport("user32.dll")]
      [return: MarshalAs(UnmanagedType.Bool)]
      public static extern bool ShowWindow(IntPtr hWnd, int nCmdShow);
    }
"@

$dslink = "C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4"
$dspath = "$dslink\DAZStudio.exe"

# - check if Daz is already running, if it is then focus already running Daz window and exit
$ps = Get-Process | Where-Object {$_.Path -match "DAZStudio4\\DAZStudio\.exe"}
$n = $ps.count
Write-Output $ps $n
if (!($n -eq 0)) {
    $h = $ps[0].MainWindowHandle
    [void] [WinAp]::SetForegroundWindow($h)
    [void] [WinAp]::ShowWindow($h, 3)
    exit
}

# - get symlink target from $dslink
$target = Get-Item $dslink | Select-Object -ExpandProperty Target
$v = "4.24"
Write-Output $target $n

if (!("$target" -eq "")) {
    # - if $target is not empty then we can check if we need to switch to another version
    if (!("$target" -match "${v}$")) {
        # - if $target does not contain $v, then we ask about switching
        # - like "DAZStudio4 - 4.24" would contain it and we would not switch,
        # "DAZStudio4 - 4.16" would not contain it and we need to switch
        $wshell = New-Object -ComObject Wscript.Shell
        $answer = $wshell.Popup("Target: ${target}`r`n`r`nDo you want to switch to ${v}?",0,"Alert",64+4)
        if ($answer -eq 7) {
            Write-Output "Answer was NO! Exit."
            exit
        }
        # - if user said yes to switch then we switch by deleting old symlink and replacing with new one that
        # points to $newtarget
        $newtarget = "${dslink} - ${v}"
        (Get-Item $dslink).Delete()
        New-Item -ItemType SymbolicLink -Path $dslink -Target $newtarget -Force
    }
} else {
    # - else $target is empty then tell user, ask if we should start anyways
    $wshell = New-Object -ComObject Wscript.Shell
    $answer = $wshell.Popup("Could not find DAZStudio symlink target.`r`n`r`nIs ${dslink} not a symlink? This can happen after upgrading Daz.`r`n`r`nYes will start anyways without switching, No will abort.",0,"Alert",64+4)
    if ($answer -eq 7) {
        Write-Output "Answer was NO! Exit."
        exit
    }
}

# - check $dspath exists before start, show popup if not
if (!(Test-Path $dspath)) {
    $wshell = New-Object -ComObject Wscript.Shell
    $wshell.Popup("Could not find DAZStudio executable.`r`n`r`n${dspath} does not exist.",0,"Alert",64+0)
    exit
}

start-process -filepath $dspath
I have multiple of these, one for each version where I change the $v = "4.24" line to whatever version I want to use and then I just make shortcuts for them in the start menu to automatically switch and launch different versions.

If you want to copy and use that script please make sure you understand the code at least enough so that you can tell what it does and to make sure you change it to fit your environment, if used wrong it could break your installation. No warranties here.

As far as I can tell postgressql can be used without problems by all versions. I actually replaced the ancient postgressql version Daz uses with a more recent one that I just installed. You can just replicate everything from your DAZ CMS into a newer dedicated postgres instance and then your smart content panel will be _a lot_ faster. It's worth it if you buy too much stuff like me.
 
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Btw. the wishlist sale from yesterday stacks with the wishlist sale from today, the discounts in that "Guilty by Association" sale are actually >90% now for me, and I only have 6 tokens. Downside is you need two new releases.
"Guilty By Association" sale is over. There's now three different sales that give you 20% off 5 wishlist items with one New Release, and those stack, but since you need three new releases and that's only ~48% off, it seems unlikely to be worth it. The last two sales also give an extra 20% off Daz+ items. If you have wishlisted Daz+ items, those stack, that gets you to 90-94% off with tokens.

I built a sample cart just to test so you can see for yourself. Three New Releases from the three sales days, and five wishlist items, mostly Daz+, 8 tokens. IMO it's not worth the buyins. But those buyins do also get you some other deals you could try to leverage too.

It does seem like they dropped the $1/2/3 minimum prices after the pushback, haven't seen those in a while.

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(This is just random stuff, not stuff I actually want; a while back I populated my wishlist with stuff from any and every genre no matter whether I could use it or not, as long as it seemed decent, I don't currently want most of this stuff. Just made for a quick test cart.)
 

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Btw. the wishlist sale from yesterday stacks with the wishlist sale from today, the discounts in that "Guilty by Association" sale are actually >90% now for me, and I only have 6 tokens. Downside is you need two new releases.
Hmm, it is not the first time that I see here someone pointing out discounts, that than are not visible on DAZ, although in theory I am still in time or they even have just been posted - I start to suspect some things may be "geolimited", and do not work if coming from outside USA. Technically it is not impossible, though I would see no reason for that, it is not a movie streaming web site :).

And regarding all that talk about using multiple installations. That works fine, I have that running for a long time now, I just copy the Daz Studio directory so that it contains the version name at the end and then make a symlink like so:
...
And then I use powershell scripts to switch between versions automatically:

If you want to copy and use that script please make sure you understand the code at least enough so that you can tell what it does and to make sure you change it to fit your environment, if used wrong it could break your installation. No warranties here.
Thank you for the script, no problems with the understanding - ex sysadmin, I had made scripts I could use with a sysprepped image and csv or excel files to automatically install and build domain servers and populate the entire AD - but you are right in putting the warning, one can end up screwing things.
I actually can appreciate that it is made in a very clear way, good quality approach, and I think it is very nice that you willing to share with others, though for me personally I think using it would be overshooting.
I can see you have plenty of versions of DAZ Studio, for me, the only interest is being able to install 4.24 in parallel with 4.23 so I can basically roll back without fully having to roll back (well, not fully).
Once I am comfortable that the software works (and also plugins and tools I have already), I can remove the old version, doing a backup just in case I missed something - same approach I used to actually move the software from one computer to another, and to have two computers with the software installed and moving the disks with the libraries depending on which computer I needed to use.

As far as I can tell postgressql can be used without problems by all versions. I actually replaced the ancient postgressql version Daz uses with a more recent one that I just installed. You can just replicate everything from your DAZ CMS into a newer dedicated postgres instance and then your smart content panel will be _a lot_ faster. It's worth it if you buy too much stuff like me.
Yes, PostgreSQL has nothing to do with DAZ Studio.
Effectively, DAZ Studio installs postgresql just because it needs a database , and as a kind of "courtesy" - if they started to tell people they need to install a SQL DB server on their machine before installing DAZ Studio, create the account used by DAZ Studio, tell DAZ Studio the port to use to connect, and run scripts to create the DB (assuming pure SQL), people would freak out, and rightly so.
My "issue" is more about how smart can be the setup, i.e. if when installed as "fresh", not upgrade in place, will try to "drop" the database if existing, or will blindly try to create it (since the tables exist already) - but for that, I can do a brutal backup, with postgresql till when the software version is the same, is not a problem, I already did the same in the past :).
To be seen if in 4.24 they have changed something in the database schema that may make it impossible for 4.23 to read correctly the contents - I doubt it, but it is not impossible, though if they only add columns in 4.24 and the queries use named columns in 4.23, it is not a problem.

DAZ Studio installs a full postresql 9.4 which comes with pgadmin, so one can even create an sql dump and then import it in another postgresql giving the port to connect to DAZ Studio, the only thing one needs to be careful about are that the tables are for a certain user that is used by DAZ Studio (though that is not a big secret) and that DAZ Studio expects to have the "no password from local machine" configuration for its postgresql server process.

I am not so sure using a newer version of postgersql will give you more speed, running comparative benchmarks between the postrgresql 9.4 (DAZ Studio) and 12.4 (the other I use) is not my priority, the smart content is decent enough for me (aside the issue of the "no password for local connections") - but it may also be a matter of configuration, on a different machine even a small difference in speed between the two versions may become more visible.

My DAZ Studio indicates 29027 assets installed, a few TB of disk, the big difference in speed I have seen in DAZ is not from the library, it is from the loading (especially in case of warnings and errors), and more important, the offloading (memory freeing) of the assets/morphs, since it is clear DAZ Studio deletes the morph objects one by one before closing down - that is why for me the Turbo Loader utilities are a good addition :) (and yes, I know the same result can be obtained with different means, but the ones that detect missing morphs and load them on the fly, are very nice and useful).
 

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Hmm, it is not the first time that I see here someone pointing out discounts, that than are not visible on DAZ, although in theory I am still in time or they even have just been posted - I start to suspect some things may be "geolimited", and do not work if coming from outside USA. Technically it is not impossible, though I would see no reason for that, it is not a movie streaming web site :).
In this particular case, are you sure you were still in time? You posted that 26 hours after the post you quoted, and the deal he was talking about ended 19 hours before you posted.

Also, the named deal he was talking about, when it was up, was on the second-to-last banner on the rotating banner, so you had to go out of your way to find it.
 

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Thank you for the script, no problems with the understanding - ex sysadmin, I had made scripts I could use with a sysprepped image and csv or excel files to automatically install and build domain servers and populate the entire AD - but you are right in putting the warning, one can end up screwing things.
Yeah, it was just a better safe then sorry thing. Since I have that line in there that just does "(Get-Item $dslink).Delete()" and then makes a new link with "-Force" I thought I better warn people that potentially this can break something.

I kind of assumed people here would often be artists, and somewhat less technical, and I didn't want anyone to nuke their Daz installation by accident.

About postgressql and the speedup, well, I did that a while ago and it is true that I did not benchmark it very thoroughly, but I believe it sped up some things like searching for files in the Smart Content tab. It was quite some time ago and maybe I am just imagining it. I did upgrade to Postgres 16.

I think I just used pg_dump on the old daz cms and then pg_restore on the Postgres 16.
 
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In this particular case, are you sure you were still in time? You posted that 26 hours after the post you quoted, and the deal he was talking about ended 19 hours before you posted.
Yep, I posted long after (the day after for me), but I had gone to check that one hour or so after the original post, so it's not the timing.
Maybe I just did not look in the right place, as you suggested.
 
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I kind of assumed people here would often be artists, and somewhat less technical, and I didn't want anyone to nuke their Daz installation by accident.
It is a safe assumption for you.
Less for the DAZ support when they tried to sell me that after a "peer-review" of my ticket about fit control crashing they could not help me because the database directory (not even the installation path of DAZ or the postgresql) was not the default one.
Except that I knew perfectly well the "peer-review" was just a pompous way to say one chap sitting and asking the guy sitting to his right or his left, and then trying to find a way out of having to admit he had not clue by trying to blame the customer for something that had nothing to do and no technical connection nor impact with the problem.
Effectively I solved the problem after, thanks to some post by a user on their own forum, and it turned out it was a morph from some character.
But I hated their attitude, very unprofessional, in reality that is an attempt at a form of intellectual bullying, and I hate bullies. For work I dealt even with people who were not technical at all, but that does not mean you can play smartass with them, just say the truth, if you have to explain something technical, you try to make it as understandable as possible, and if you don't know something, admit it.

About postgressql and the speedup, well, I did that a while ago and it is true that I did not benchmark it very thoroughly, but I believe it sped up some things like searching for files in the Smart Content tab. It was quite some time ago and maybe I am just imagining it. I did upgrade to Postgres 16.

I think I just used pg_dump on the old daz cms and then pg_restore on the Postgres 16.
Oh, I am not saying you are wrong, you may be right on the money. It is just that I never spent time to look into it, so I cannot confirm either.
 
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