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Seemed like the post release pitchfork event hasnt cooled down yet, so going to give it a bit more. But will be prepared to the usual Q&A after :)

To answer broad question.
Sorry if you dislike the lack of sex. I just make the game based on what I feel. Not planning to change that part hehe.
I neither add or don't add based on what people want. Just want I want.

About the game time. Sucks I know. Won't argue it.
Hobby game. Hence why game is free and support is not needed to get the game but only to support.
Once game is on Steam it won't be free and can't call it hobby and won't be making the game in a relaxed style as I do now. Tho I like living life relaxed hehe.

And yes, I see all the positive comment as well. Don't worry. I love you guys ❤
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Usually, always doing what audiance wants leads to disaster.

BTW... Spoilers mate. I think you are the first developer who spoils their own game

Most of us love you too.
 

KoGa3

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I tried to make an Android port (from the game compressed).
Since I havn't played the game myself in ages I only could do a quick test (played the introduction and first free roam).
Also be aware the game is actually not designed for small screens, some of the ingame texts are really small. Also I don't know if the minigames would even work on a touch screen, so better skip them.


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May 18, 2028:
Updated the port to the new game version Season 1
I added a gallery unlocker and the WT Mod from Jokerleader

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Android port from the game compressed
with Mod version "Season 1" (~780MB)


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TomUK

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Not sure how many side quests I missed before this update, as I was rushing through the game from the beginning after the previous update ,so just need to ask if there are any new side quests because the main story was pretty poor for this update.
 

HornyyPussy

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It's more than enough to live (outside of large metropolises) and when working from home you can live anywhere.
No it isn't. It's about 1900/month after Patreon's cut, it's nowhere close for me to live on and Hopes country is slightly costlier to live in than mine.

And why the hell would he move somewhere just because some impatient whiners on a internet forum wants their free stuff faster, that's asinine......
 

Fajlar6

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Me when I saw Gracie get shot: HOW DARE THEY SHOOT MY PRINCESS GRACIE... I WILL KILL YOU ALL!!!!:mad::mad::mad:

(I just played the game earlier, to be honest I didn't really care about the Lewd(sex) scene , I just want to know what the main story is like... But, my hearts break when i see Gracie getting shot:cry::cry: just like "My Name Is Luna" and when i see Luna sad/shock[blaming herself] I really wanted to hug her so badly) All i could say is... It's VERY,, VERY ... AWESOME, GOOD, AND AMAZING update, Hopes(y)(y)(y)(y)(y):):):):):giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle::giggle:

(Sorry if i say something wrong)
 

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J.R.R. Tolkien took 12 years for the Lord of the Rings.
Ever read The Silmarillion from Tolkien?

I have me worked through that abomination - and it was frigging exhausting - about 20 years ago, and if I remember correctly it was mentioned in the preword that this was written over a period of 50 years, starting before WWI. While reading it, you can easy notice how the style of writing has changed over the past time.


That's not true. If you're on the aunt/sister path, you've already banged her.
Yes... And that scene was so rushed and dissapointing that I have decided to drop the game, chancel my pledge and never look back. Something I havent regretted a single time.

i have a feeling that Gracie has
That was my first thought also. If a assassin goes for high value target, in his own environment, he has only one chance to score. That means going for head or heart - depending on the distance, and the used ammo it will be way more easy to hit the heart/body instead the head.

And the information about dextrocardia, on a high value target, is something that I would always keep classified - no matter the price. That knowledge could save your life - depending on who has the intel...

Dick in pussy is for you what defines porn? Really? is that what makes it explicit? Think before writing. If that is a necessary condition for porn, then hentai is not porn, as all dicks, pussies and dicks in pussy are censored... hey, good job making hentai pg-13, genious!
I have quoted this because I wanted to say something about this. But I have not a fucking clue anymore what it was ... After writing the rest of this post, it has slipped my find. :(

To answer broad question.
Sorry if you dislike the lack of sex. I just make the game based on what I feel. Not planning to change that part hehe.
I neither add or don't add based on what people want. Just want I want.
The lack of sex don't matter for me. I could easy go without sex in this game. (y)

Well, looks like you are a victim of of your own success/story/idea(?) Pick what suits yourself...

But, I have to say - and you have noticed and mentioned yourself.

Your developement time sucks, point!

I'm am not here to smartass on you, or to tell you what I think you should improve to get better at this subject.
Also I have no desire to judge or shit on you or the conditions of your life - that is something I have absolutly no right to do, not even in farthest way.

Some guys here call you many things, you know what all, I for sure will not point it out. Thats not what I'm here for.

But If you are honest to yourself and have the desire to improve yourself, pull the thump out of your arse and think about your work ethic or whatever fits in your opinion - then you should be able to notice why are you moving sidewards.

In my opinion, you are not stupid and surely not a fool, you have for sure noticed that something is odd.

You are not only sidestepping, but also going backwards.

I'm sure you have seen your numbers on patreon.

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You have lost close to a third of your patrons, and I'm sure - that beside your excuse about that complete "hobby" thing - this is nagging on you. - If I'm mistaken, keep it for yourself. :p

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of the lost patrons didn't leave because of the lack of sex in your story. But simply that they were disappointed - from the above mentioned point - and/or got the impression that you are not reliable.

I am honest, in my case it was a combination of both that made me leave.

In any ways I wish you the best of luck for the future and the upcoming release on steam.
 
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vogelbeest

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I have quoted this because I wanted to say something about this. But I have not a fucking clue anymore what it was ... After writing the rest of this post, it has slipped my find. :(
I have exactly that same problem.... Somewhere between logic on one side and porn-logic on the other, the human brain simply says "fuck this shite".. I'm gonna play some porn erotic novel with adult story elements! ;)

Luckily this game is one of many of those on this site!
 
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Cartageno

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No it isn't. It's about 1900/month after Patreon's cut, it's nowhere close for me to live on and Hopes country is slightly costlier to live in than mine.

And why the hell would he move somewhere just because some impatient whiners on a internet forum wants their free stuff faster, that's asinine......
And it's not the money to live on only. There might be taxes (though at a low enough income there might not be) and you have to pay for your own tools when you're self employed which an employer would cover otherwise. You need a working space with proper equipment besides from a computer, but the computer itself - even if only one - will be more expensive than the ones we use privately and you will burn faster through it. There's proper furniture, software licensing, possibly you'll need a better ISP. Not all of it major but it adds up. I don't know about Scandinavia but over here also all kinds of insurances (health, inability to work, retirement funds) are more expensive because usually the employer will cover half of it which now you have to pay as well.

Yes, you can survive on that amount, at least here, but it is a meagre living, combined with a low quality of life, no "pocket money" if you want to have fun once in a while (and that only if you do not have others, like kids, to pay for) - and extremely insecure, Patreons might leave tomorrow and you're out of an income stream. Why leave a well paying job for that if you got it and risk losing everything? Especially when you also want to set a dollar or two aside for when you retire and still want to eat.

How to say "I'm a spoiled brat living in mom's basement and have no idea about the real cost of living" without saying "I'm a spoiled brat living in mom's basement and have no idea about the real cost of living". :cautious:
Sure, some devs indeed have a very comfortable support base. A dozen or so. But as you with most people who talk about how much income developer X has, I get the feeling they compare it to pocket money you get when mowing uncle John's lawn - it's all for you, it's extra money, and everything major is just there somehow. Probably without even knowing what kind of expenses may exist.
 

Cabin Fever

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Sure, some devs indeed have a very comfortable support base. A dozen or so. But as you with most people who talk about how much income developer X has, I get the feeling they compare it to pocket money you get when mowing uncle John's lawn - it's all for you, it's extra money, and everything major is just there somehow. Probably without even knowing what kind of expenses may exist.
It wouldn't surprise me if a significant portion of the whiners have never ever had rent or mortgage payments, utilities bills to cover, car & insurance payment, etc, not to mention having a real girlfriend and taking her out on dates.
 

JJJ84

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The lack of sex don't matter for me. I could easy go without sex in this game. (y)

Well, looks like you are a victim of of your own success/story/idea(?) Pick what suits yourself...

But, I have to say - and you have noticed and mentioned yourself.

Your devtime sucks, point!

I'm am not here to smartass on you, or to tell you what I think you should improve to get a better at this subject.
Also I have no desire to judge or shit on you or the conditions of your life - that is something I have absolutly no right to do, not even in farthest way.

Some guys here call many things, you know what, I for sure will not point it out. Thats not what I'm here for.

But If you are honest to yourself and have the desire to improve yourself, remove the thump out of your arse and think about your work ethic or whatever fits in your opinion - then you should be able to notice why are you moving sidewards.

In my opinion you are not stupid and surely not a fool, you have for sure noticed that something is odd.

You are not only sidestepping, but also going backwards.

I'm sure you have seen you numbers on patreon.

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You have lost close to a third of your patrons, and I'm sure - that beside your excuse about that complete "hobby" thing - this is nagging on you. - If I'm mistaken, keep it for yourself. :p

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that most of the lost patrons didn't leave because of the lack of sex in your story. But simply that they were disappointed - from the above mentioned point - and/or got the impression that you are not reliable.

I am honest, in my case it was a combination of both that made me leave.

In any ways I wish you the best of luck for the future and the upcoming release on steam.
You've put it really well into your post here, so I don't really have much to add other than I think that Consistency is key.
I love the game (if the number of questions I generally pose to HopesGaming wasn't already obvious enough, despite the number or usurpers, coups & pitchforks :HideThePain: ) and it's obviously my favorite, but if there's one thing currently holding it back, it's that.

Devs like Caribdis (for Eternum) & Perverteer (for Tales from the Unending Void), I'd say would be pretty good examples of consistency in development (3 months between releases?).

Of course, this being Hopes hobby game and him having his main job is also a factor, but given that s01 is almost done, and the road to Steam is getting closer and closer, I genuinely hope that the Steam release becomes a success, paving way for much more consistency (with quicker releases) than season 1.
 

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It wouldn't surprise me if a significant portion of the whiners have never ever had rent or mortgage payments, utilities bills to cover, car & insurance payment, etc, not to mention having a real girlfriend and taking her out on dates.
We do have most of it, not all, but it is sometimes scaring how fast your last pay cheque is out of the window.:cry:
 

Joey the mangaka

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Seemed like the post release pitchfork event hasnt cooled down yet, so going to give it a bit more. But will be prepared to the usual Q&A after :)

To answer broad question.
Sorry if you dislike the lack of sex. I just make the game based on what I feel. Not planning to change that part hehe.
I neither add or don't add based on what people want. Just want I want.

About the game time. Sucks I know. Won't argue it.
Hobby game. Hence why game is free and support is not needed to get the game but only to support.
Once game is on Steam it won't be free and can't call it hobby and won't be making the game in a relaxed style as I do now. Tho I like living life relaxed hehe.

And yes, I see all the positive comment as well. Don't worry. I love you guys ❤ Gracie would also love you if she didn't get shot :D
the good side she get extra hole
 
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HornyyPussy

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1900? What If he makes 2500, I'm calling BS, since Patreon takes nowhere near 20%?
$3 or less, 5% + 10 cents.
More than $3, 2.9% + 30 cents.
That's 15% over 1$ pledges, 9,5% over 5$ pledges, 5.9% over 10$ pledges, and keeps going lower and lower the higher the pledge
So even if every single one of those 2500$ total were 1$ pledges, patreon would only at most take 15%. If he makes 2500, and only takes home 1900, the math isn't mathing. That's over 20%
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i'm not talking about anything besides the math here. I don't care if updates are slower because this is a side gig, I like the game. I just wanted to call out the misinformation that patreon takes over 20%. Just that, nothing else
As I said earlier, i don't remember how much Patreon takes but it was a fair amount I think.

Doesn't make any difference though, that isn't enough live solely on.
 
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Mortarion

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I think that Consistency is key.
Devs like Caribdis (for Eternum) & Perverteer (for Tales from the Unending Void), I'd say would be pretty good examples of consistency in development (3 months between releases?).
Yes, consistence is what makes a dev reliable.

There is no need for such big releases like Caribdis pumps out, we can even put Ocean in there (he may be outstretch sometimes but when he releases, he delivers!).

Rebirth it also a good example, the updates may be short, the game has lacked lewd for a long time, some updates have done nothing for the progress of the the story like "WFT was this release about?!" But the releases are consistent, not like a clockwork and the with it connected pressure/stress, that can't be healthy for the sanity of the dev.

There are always "that dudes" that complain about the lack of sex, this fetish or this content, but the game thread is civil,
well...
... mostly...

But not matter how lacking the "last" update felt, there is the knowledge that the dev is releasing the next update in a know timeframe - give or take a few days.

And when Hopes is able to reach this point, the rest should be easy.

I think it is alway good for a dev if he was solid to get through and able to complete a game as a reference, sort of...
 
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