Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[xanonxmousx]

NO! Not Gracie!

 

[JamesSmithsonian]

Is there no music in this game anymore? I'm pretty sure it used to have music?

Does anyone know how to fix the missing music?

Thanks in advance.

 

[JJJ84]

Is there no music in this game anymore? I'm pretty sure it used to have music?

Does anyone know how to fix the missing music?

Thanks in advance.

Uhhh, what do you mean?

The game still has music.
All 3 events in the latest update v0.09 has music in them.

You sure you didn't mute all the sounds by accident?

 

[JamesSmithsonian]

Uhhh, what do you mean?

The game still has music.
All 3 events in the latest update v0.09 has music in them.

You sure you didn't mute all the sounds by accident?

Yeah, I double checked. No music or sound effects in the beginning, not even the "lobby music".
I'm going to try reinstalling the game, maybe something got fucked

 

[JJJ84]

Yeah, I double checked. No music or sound effects in the beginning, not even the "lobby music".
I'm going to try reinstalling the game, maybe something got fucked

Not even the Main Menu music (i.e. Sakura Blossom theme)?

Where are you playing the game on? PC or Android?
If it's PC, well it's weird cause I'm playing on PC and everything works fine (with music), and noone else (who plays on PC) reported any issues with music.

However, if it's Android (this includes that whole Joiplay etc etc), then it may be due to that cause the Dev's not responsible for the Android port.

 

[JamesSmithsonian]

Not even the Main Menu music (i.e. Sakura Blossom theme)?

Where are you playing the game on? PC or Android?
If it's PC, well it's weird cause I'm playing on PC and everything works fine (with music), and noone else (who plays on PC) reported any issues with music.

However, if it's Android (this includes that whole Joiplay etc etc), then it may be due to that cause the Dev's not responsible for the Android port.

No, not even the Main Menu Music...

I'm playing on PC, Windows 10.

I'm about to try playing again, and if it's not fixed, I might boot up a Windows VM lol. Waited so long for this update and I'm fucking playing it!

 

[c3p0]

No, not even the Main Menu Music...

I'm playing on PC, Windows 10.

I'm about to try playing again, and if it's not fixed, I might boot up a Windows VM lol. Waited so long for this update and I'm fucking playing it!

We assume, that the music system work with other software and only the Deluca Family don't work?

 

[JamesSmithsonian]

We assume, that the music system work with other software and only the Deluca Family don't work?

Well now the music works?!

I just reinstalled the game and rebooted my PC. It was probably something with my PC.

Thank you to everyone that were willing to help me and for answering so quickly!

 

[Kylie Bloodmoon]

It was short but I still enjoyed it immensely. The story is always done phenominally.

 

[operamini]

Something that only half a dozen soldato and two/three capos, plus the daughters and Mina, know about. Nazazi said it, "the circumstances of Brizio's death cannot leave this room". A handful members of the Family know why Nazazi killed him, all the others don't even know that it's Nazazi who killed him.

The most important thing that go out of that scene is that The Don is back and he demoted the Wife, this would be relayed to the other members.
Coming back to the number of "witnesses" there aren't many guys there but are there that many more that matter?, i don't think so, they were complaining just before how they were in a really weak position with barely any actually good soldiers left, and they just lost one of their best.

For the contract, what is different ; as Siobhan could say, it's a question of principles, but I guess that for Nazazi it's more a question of rules.
If you have something against a top member, and even more a core member, you solve the issue by yourself, you don't use a proxy. The Ombra should have terminated the contract the instant they discovered that the target was living in the main house. Imagine the consequences if it was otherwise...
Assassins are tolerated because they are more useful than they are a threat, what is possible only because there's people that are said to be out of reach. Your child can go to school, without you fearing that he'll be stabbed or poisoned, because of those limits. The core members can have a life because of those limits. There's risks of course, but you know that there isn't an assassins after you. if someone want to kill you, it will be fair play and you'll have a chance to be the one who will survive ; it will not be a stab in the back during your sleep.
The instant the word would spread that the Ombra tried to kill someone in the DeLuca main house, what become of those rules ? Who stay out of reach in such case ? They would become a threat for all the Families and wouldn't survive long. Nazazi's apology is nothing more than him saying that the rules stands and, therefore, him protecting his Family.
But this do not prevent the said Ombra to attack frontally the DeLuca main house. It would be fair play, too bad if they weren't able to see them coming.

Your reasoning is right except for the fact that they don't have the man power to pull it off, much less pull it off in the back of their returned Donn and daughter both of which want to keep peace with the Delucas.

Firstly, like I said above, since no one except a handful of members, know what happened, there's no "after that" ; especially since Nazazi is a crazy drunkard, what is surely well known in the Family.

But now think about it a bit more. Brizio had the balls to pull a gun on Nazazi. While not in command, he stay the Head of the Family, what mean that Brizio pulled a gun on the person he swore to serve and protect ! This seriously question his loyalty, that clearly goes to Mina, not to the Family. And this raise another question, how many in the Family share his views ?
He isn't the only one, we know it, thanks to Siobhan. Nazazi ordered men to follow and protect her (in the same way that Wilfred put gents on MC's back I guess). And what happened when Mina told them to not do it ? They were ordered by the Head of the Family to protect one of the heir of the Family. Then when ordered by the person in command to stop doing it, they didn't even cared to report to the Head ? Their loyalty do not goes to the Family, and anyone who's loyalty goes directly to Mina wouldn't care this much what the dunkard Nazazi say ; once again except the handful who know what happened and have been ordered to not talk about it.

Here is how i see that timeline: Siobhan pushed to start going out while the Donn was still Active / not broken, he gave the order to protect her from the shadows without her knowing, time passes and his mental capacity / state worsens, he gives the order for the wife to Become "leader" (which is why he now say's he is removing that power), and locks himself in that room with the booze. So by the time the wife gives the order to stop following Siobhan they wouldn't have any reason to go for the Donn, "she is strong enough now, and doesn't need help" come into mind.

We don't know how many time there's between the two events. Generally when they are directly linked in time Hopes group them on a single event.
Of course, they come in the same update, but this don't mean that players who starts with this release will not play a mission, or some side events, in between. Therefore expecting Siobhan to appear at the end of the scene seem wrong ; it's more surely an implicit event that already happened.
Anyway, if it happened the same day, then they wouldn't know what happened in the Family. Their mission would have started before it, and no one bring a cellphone with him when he plan to frontally attack the main house of one of the top five Families.

Still think its a really fresh event, i will bet you that the next Story event will happen with no extra requisite, the fact that you could do a mission in between doesn't mean much imo.

My problem with that is that i really don't see them having people good enough to pull it off. They just said they didn't have anyone stronger than luna, Even the mad wife said it would be crazy to go after the delucas head on, Add them loosing even another top Capo, the return of the Don, and the Daughter starting her plan, i am 100% convinced it wasn't them.

No, they haven't invaded the perimeter. Invading it wouldn't have been unnoticed, there would be gunfire, and we would have seen Wilfred interrupt the dinner, letting some gents lead at least Cordia (who would have refused), Gracie (who would have been offended) and Isabel in security.
Even a peaceful direct infiltration wouldn't have been unnoticed. One totally unknown person don't walk straight to the main house, while carry a big bag, without it raising suspicion. And the more there's people doing it, the faster they'll be people stopping them in order to know what they want ; what would then lead to the gunfire I talked about above.
The only way to do this is a long time infiltration meticulously prepared. Therefore, rogue Ombra still are plausible responsible. Between the loyalty issue and the time needed to perform the operation, it stay a valid answer.

What i meant was they (whoever they are) could have had someone hidden in a nearby building to do the sniper shot, even then it would have to be someone from really far away or really good, as i bet the guys the Delucas have on watch are pretty good, it wouldn't be strange for one of the best to be on watch,
The one thing about this attack that i dont get is: They don't lack money, so if i was in their shoes, i would have had bullet prove windows installed on the first day i could afford it. Seems like a no-brainer first things first of House defense.

This said, I agree that it's not the sole possibility, just the more plausible in term of story and as long as we know, there's also the "someone" option. The same "someone" who poisoned MC, corrupted a DeLuca soldato to permit a direct attack against MC, and passed a contract with the Ombra for MC's assassination. Their own assassin failed, the proxy they used failed, and the assassin Family they payed terminated the contract. It's also a reasonable guess to think that they now goes more frontal.
But, while this wouldn't lead to a direct war, since it's an unknown player, it feel like a step too far and too fast. What doesn't mean that it's not what happened, I'm not Hopes' mind, just a player like all others, so I can be wrong.

Who ever they are i think its a big dog, and probably one we don't know about / expect.

 

[c3p0]

The one thing about this attack that i dont get is: They don't lack money, so if i was in their shoes, i would have had bullet prove windows installed on the first day i could afford it. Seems like a no-brainer first things first of House defense.

And you always could use a bigger gun...
The Deluca mansion is in the city they control. So, if one with a weapon would fire upon that mansion, then they already have failed. Sure, bullet proof glass can withstand some projectils, but it is a question of the design. Thus, what calibre should the bullet proof glass withstand?
Guns and assault rifles? For that you would need to be in the perimeter of the mansion itself, where your (normal) guard should keep you safe.
But against 0.50" / 12.7 mm or higher, even AP rounds?

 

[anne O'nymous]

Your reasoning is right except for the fact that they don't have the man power to pull it off, much less pull it off in the back of their returned Donn and daughter both of which want to keep peace with the Delucas.

Do Mina really care ?
Sending someone strike in a main house. Believing that her Family is still among the most powerful while they lost everything above the capo rank, before saying the opposite when facing Nazazi to make him looks crazy. Threatening to kill the heir of the Silverino Family. Believing that the Silverino is still a totally insignificant Family. Trying to lecture Nazazi right after, and because, he killed the guy that pulled a gun on him.
We can't really say that she's smart.

But what we can say is that she maintains a certain animosity against the DeLuca ; probably because they sided with the Carnefice and are still reluctant to use the service of the Ombra Family. I'm sure that there's many people outside of the Ombra Family that she could have sent to kill MC. Yet she choose the heir of the defunct Carnefice Family, and knowingly sent her strike in the main house, when she could have had him killed during one of his many solo mission (the one that happen behind the game because he haven't had only five missions so far). Whatever if Eiza succeeded or not. The heir Carnefice killing, or at least trying to kill, someone in the DeLuca main house... It's like a sister backstabbing her brother, an irony that Mina surely savored, and what a shame for the DeLuca Family.
We also know, again thanks to Siobhan, that Mina is scheming since apparently a long time. Deluded as she is, she probably believe that she now have strong alliances with the other Families, and that they would stand at her side in case of war against the relatively disliked DeLuca.
Of course, Nazazi wouldn't agree to this war, but would he have the choice ? Since striking directly the main house is a war declaration, and everyone believe that the DeLuca are a bunch of crazy guys, Mina can perfectly believe that the war would be unavoidable and that Nazazi wouldn't have other choice than to fight back. In fact, him getting back the control, and even more his apologies, serve a deluded Mina scheme ; "Our Don apologized before the strike, and we clearly said that it was some rogue members that we disapprove who did it. And look at those crazy DeLuca, they still started a war ! It's not our fault, you all agree, right ? So, my friends, you'll stand at our size, right ?"

Once again, I don't say that it's what happened, just that it make sense.

Here is how i see that timeline: Siobhan pushed to start going out while the Donn was still Active / not broken, he gave the order to protect her from the shadows without her knowing, time passes and his mental capacity / state worsens, he gives the order for the wife to Become "leader" (which is why he now say's he is removing that power), and locks himself in that room with the booze. So by the time the wife gives the order to stop following Siobhan they wouldn't have any reason to go for the Donn, "she is strong enough now, and doesn't need help" come into mind.

Except that it's not what we know.

Nazazi is broken since the day he killed Efrem and Zin. Apparently he gave up on his anger, and killed them for a ridiculous reason. Normally he would have only beaten the shit out of them, but he probably thought that killing Efrem was the best way to prove his father that he's really worthy, since just beating him wasn't enough. Then he realized what he did and broke, living constantly with their ghost in his mind.
And it's not something recent. Learning this, Siobhan first thought was that Zin could have been her mother, and that Nazazi killed her to be with Mina. Therefore it happened at least between her birth and the birth of the oldest of her sisters ; let's say around 18 years ago. But anyway one thing is sure, since Zin is Mina's sister, she was dead before Siobhan's third/fourth birthday, else she would have at least some blurry memories about her, and they would have came back once learning about her from Nazario.

Of course, Nazazi past the lead to Mina years later, partly because he wasn't the Head of the Family at this time, but not recently enough for it to fit the narrative:

• Siobhan "And you guys think that sending me out on missions without protection will make me strong?"
• Nazazi "Ha! We only wanted to make you think you weren't protected, to toughen you up a bit."
• Nazazi "There were always people secretly protecting you. In honesty, I didn't think it would work with you. Weren't you supposed to be the smart one of the bunch? Seems you're not that smart after all."
• Siobhan "Not surprised you don't know. You're always drunk."
• Nazazi "What the hell is that supposed to mean?"
• Siobhan "Someone told your 'secret' people to be so secret that they weren't even there. And since it wasn't you, I guess it must have been Mom."
  [the "it's mom fault because..." part]
• Nazazi "Ridiculous! Just because you didn't see them, doesn't mean they weren't there!"
• Siobhan "Then where were they when our enemies came for me? Mostly they don't dare approach me because of who I am. But twice now, my life has been in actual danger."

So, firstly it's not Siobhan who asked for those missions. She probably already wanted to leave the Family at this time.
Secondly, it seem clear that the guys where never there, not a single time. Else Siobhan would have said something among the line of "at first yes, but at first only". Hopes wouldn't have made such mistake. That he misuse a word time to time due to translation issues, yes. But that he totally mess up a dialog line, no, I can't believe it, especially not to this point.
Thirdly, Nazazi use "we" when he talk about this. It's not his decision, it's theirs. And personally I see it as "me and your mother". What make me wrong, there's no loyalty issue here, they just were never told to protect her.

[...] Even the mad wife said it would be crazy to go after the delucas head on, [...]

After knowingly sending Eiza kill someone in the main house... I have difficulties believing that she was honest when she said that.
What doesn't mean that it's the Ombra. As I said, it's a plausible possibility accordingly to what we know about the story. But the truth, only Hopes know it.

What i meant was they (whoever they are) could have had someone hidden in a nearby building to do the sniper shot, even then it would have to be someone from really far away or really good, as i bet the guys the Delucas have on watch are pretty good, it wouldn't be strange for one of the best to be on watch,

Look at the windows exploding, and listen the sound FX, it's a good old shooting with assault rifles. And it's not the DeLuca firing back, we see Antonio avoiding a bullet near the end of the shooting. They clearly infiltrated the perimeter, up to the main house, and with assault rifles. And I really can't believe that they could have did that unnoticed unless it's a long time operation.

A sniper would have shoot once, then waited an opportunity to kill his next target. It's what is great with a sniper, one hour later you still can't be sure that he isn't here waiting for you to make the wrong move.
And why hit Gracie when he could have started with Cordia, Antonio or Luna, who are way more dangerous threats, especially after such attack. Personally, I would have targeted Antonio first. Due to where he is placed, Cordia would have become a perfect target when rushing to him. The DeLuca would have lost their Head and Capo Bastone the same day, being left with (seen from the outside) uninvolved Gracie, and crazy Luna to lead them. Gracie would have done a great job, but this only Wilfred and Cordia know it.

The one thing about this attack that i dont get is: They don't lack money, so if i was in their shoes, i would have had bullet prove windows installed on the first day i could afford it. Seems like a no-brainer first things first of House defense.

There's rules, and sneakily striking the main house goes against all those rules.

Who ever they are i think its a big dog, and probably one we don't know about / expect.

Well, it's "them", at least it's what Antonio think. And this absolutely not help us, thanks a lot Hopes

But against 0.50" / 12.7 mm or higher, even AP rounds?

Well, some modern RPG can fire at 400 meters. And since the effective range can goes up to 1Km, while there's no need for a good accuracy when you fire against a house, please make everything strong enough to resist an antitank load.

 

[Riversayt]

You need to have enough stealth to spy on them also as you get higher stealth you get different scenes.


I'm pretty certain that the dev won't kill off Gracie and she will recover but if he for whatever reason does actually have her die, I will never play this VN again.

and how does stealth bother me if I play in 2 choices of a novel and free movement? I mean that I don’t do missions to get points and money to buy

 

[Riversayt]

Updated it for 0.09

- Game Version : 0.09.0
- Mod Version : 0.09.0b

Features:
• Unlocked Gallery
• Money Cheat
• Skill Cheat
• Love Cheat
• Rename Mc

and where to download this game so that the mod would be arranged in the inside of the game?

 

[TimHawk]

Look at the windows exploding, and listen the sound FX, it's a good old shooting with assault rifles. And it's not the DeLuca firing back, we see Antonio avoiding a bullet near the end of the shooting. They clearly infiltrated the perimeter, up to the main house, and with assault rifles. And I really can't believe that they could have did that unnoticed unless it's a long time operation.

A sniper would have shoot once, then waited an opportunity to kill his next target. It's what is great with a sniper, one hour later you still can't be sure that he isn't here waiting for you to make the wrong move.

The first shot is very clearly a sniper shot, you don't use an automatic rifle in single shot mode, then wait for everyone to take cover, switch to full auto and then start shooting again. And if you go by accoustics only, even though its impossible for us to know which side shoots what weapon, it's 2 automatic weapons, 1 sniper rifle and 1 pistol. I don't believe that that is relevant at all though, I think that's just a soundfile Hope used because it was available.

The one thing, that's not in doubt, is that Gracie was targeted. Single shot - center mass, there is no way that that was a coincidence or mistake. And the full auto afterwards makes perfect sense too, it's to facilitate the escape. You hit your target and then spray and pray to use the confusion to get away.

Furthermore, Antonio looking out the window and not seeing a shooter on full automatic that has breached the perimeter are slim to none. As I said before full auto was only used to get away, they clearly didn't breach the perimeter.

Could it have been an "rogue ombra" ? Well I guess, but after the event just before, they have to rank comfortably at the bottom of the pile of potential shooters. You don't poke a bear after you run out of ammo, and from what we are told, they are at their weakest at the moment, so it makes zero sense.

 

[Hellkinglucifer]

I think Gracie near-death situation( lets be honest no way hopes kills gracie unless he wants an angry mob to burn him alive) will finally allow us to get rid of the passive/reactive MC and see a more bloodthirsty/revenge seeking one if only temporarily.

MC reaction shows that he has realised he is no longer a guy trying to get rid of a contract binding him but a full on member of the Deluca Family. No more wimpy, 'will not kill' puppy, the girl closest to him nearly died. Time to put bodies in the ground.

 

[raider286]

Really? Cordia is born on February 31st?

 

[Zorrion]

I'm replaying this game but did they add new content I don't remember some of these scenes although it has been like a year or two

 

[c3p0]

Really? Cordia is born on February 31st?

Yes. And she dislike cold tea and like hot tea.

I think Gracie near-death situation( lets be honest no way hopes kills gracie unless he wants an angry mob to burn him alive) will finally allow us to get rid of the passive/reactive MC and see a more bloodthirsty/revenge seeking one if only temporarily.

No.....

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[Thierry29]

Question for only Deluca's fan ^^

if my memories is not to weak: When MC does contracts, he meet a old man who known is father. The old man initiated the contract( only 1 time event with the dog). is he Nazario ?