Dragon59

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Uh, no offense but you're incorrect in your assessment of this game and this site (f95zone) in general.
F95zone (a.k.a. the zone) has variety of games on the website; several are porn games yes, but there are also games that have no sex scenes at all like this game here (it's an excellent game, despite having zero, zilch, nada sex scenes).

So basically, the zone is supposed to have variety of adult games, not just porn.
And as for the definition in general, adult game is a huge umbrella term; porn game is definitely an adult game (it's one of the subsets of adult games), but an adult game may not necessarily be in the porn game category.

Games I'd list in such category would be games like:

- The DeLuca Family (Hopes has said from the very beginning, that his intent for this game was to create an adult game experience for the players, and not a porn game)
- Summer's Gone
- Where it All Began
- Hillside

(there should be more, but those are the titles that I remember).
And just because a game has sex scene in it, I don't agree that it classifies it as porn game.
Seems like a very flawed logic to me.

I think Cartageno explained it more succinctly than I did (I'll quote his post below):



To conclude, I also don't agree with your cars analogy, and think it should be applied this way;

Let's say for example we have a police officer with his police car and a farmer with a horse truck (don't ask me why I thought of these specific examples, they just came to my mind :KEK: ).
You have 2 vehicles here, but with very distinct and different main purpose the drivers (devs) will use them as (literally night and day difference). And sure, you might argue "But criminals can still be transported with the horse truck" (lol) but that's not the intended purpose, at all.

Only common factor the two have would be that they are vehicles (i.e. games on the Patreon platform, and in this pirate Adult [umbrella term which includes porn and not-porn games] game websites like the zone).

And with non-porn Adult games, it is much clearer with devs' intent (as Gracie often says in this game, it's the only thing that matters in terms of classification heh).
I feel that one of the problems is that many people are looking at how sexually explicit material is treated in the (often Puritanical) United States. Most European democracies seem to have a very different view of explicit scenes in mainstream films intended for adults.
 

JJJ84

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I feel that one of the problems is that many people are looking at how sexually explicit material is treated in the (often Puritanical) United States. Most European democracies seem to have a very different view of explicit scenes in mainstream films intended for adults.
Tbh, I have no idea what country that dude (that I replied to) lives in.
But regardless, I feel the way of viewing an item as simply porn just because it has moments of sex in it (despite not being the primary focus of the item and its creator) being..... as incredibly narrow tunnel vision minded.

That's all I have to say on this matter (given I've made multiple posts about it already in the past 2 days).
 

roupe

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Dunno if it's just me but im having a problem while trying to get 100% completion on The Snooping Bonans.. im currently at 89% and did all the checks, I noticed two things that I couldn't do but were at the contracts guide.
1st: I can't rest at the south west square and only at the tavern
2nd: I don't have the option to kiss Leilana
 

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roupe

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So ignore what I said before I just needed one more charisma to get the kiss option.. anyways I just discovered that im unable to use the load option since it doesn't work..
It keeps loading me into a freeroam even after I saved countless time at my bedroom or at wilfred
 

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Dunno if it's just me but im having a problem while trying to get 100% completion on The Snooping Bonans.. im currently at 89% and did all the checks, I noticed two things that I couldn't do but were at the contracts guide.
1st: I can't rest at the south west square and only at the tavern
2nd: I don't have the option to kiss Leilana
I recommend having 1 more point than needed for stat check. that should allow you to kiss Leilana. as for the resting issue, Idk what to tell you
 

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I feel that one of the problems is that many people are looking at how sexually explicit material is treated in the (often Puritanical) United States. Most European democracies seem to have a very different view of explicit scenes in mainstream films intended for adults.
It's true. I've seen where other countries has full frontal nudity on their prime-time TV shows. Here, it was a scandal when they showed one guy's ass on network TV for 2 seconds. You gotta watch channels like HBO and Showtime, late at night, to see anything like that. We really are a strongly Puritan style country.
 
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So. The story line says I have to, I think, have a promotion to something I can't read for part 5. The writing in the journal is too small. How am I supposed to get a promotion if everything I try on a contract fails? How do you level up attack, charisma, stealth, etc.?
 

Cartageno

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So. The story line says I have to, I think, have a promotion to something I can't read for part 5. The writing in the journal is too small. How am I supposed to get a promotion if everything I try on a contract fails? How do you level up attack, charisma, stealth, etc.?
You level up your stats by

(a) Equipment - you can buy it via Wilfred's menu and will later receive better gear in the contracts

(b) Continuing the individual storylines

The promotion should be an option with Wilfred, too.
 

Talmadge

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You level up your stats by

(a) Equipment - you can buy it via Wilfred's menu and will later receive better gear in the contracts

(b) Continuing the individual storylines

The promotion should be an option with Wilfred, too.
Equipment is a problem as I only have 11 bucks, and always fail the first contract. No matter what I do. Can't continue Isabel's quest either because of no money.
Guess I'll just continue with Luna and Gracie and see what happens.
Wilfred doesn't have where you can talk to him about a promotion. At least not yet. It's the same stuff when you pick Talk, and the Work is the same three contracts I can chose from.

How exactly do I succeed in Nimble Fingers? If I go East, I get a painkiller from the dog, but can't steal the jacket and always lose the fight. If I go West, I get caught trying to break into the house on the left, and the house on the right has a woman in a bikini in the yard, so can't do anything there. And can't do anything in the marketplace. The museum is packed with guards, so that is also a no-go.
 

roupe

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Equipment is a problem as I only have 11 bucks, and always fail the first contract. No matter what I do. Can't continue Isabel's quest either because of no money.
Guess I'll just continue with Luna and Gracie and see what happens.
Wilfred doesn't have where you can talk to him about a promotion. At least not yet. It's the same stuff when you pick Talk, and the Work is the same three contracts I can chose from.

How exactly do I succeed in Nimble Fingers? If I go East, I get a painkiller from the dog, but can't steal the jacket and always lose the fight. If I go West, I get caught trying to break into the house on the left, and the house on the right has a woman in a bikini in the yard, so can't do anything there. And can't do anything in the marketplace. The museum is packed with guards, so that is also a no-go.
Dude how did you even spend that much money? I mean you can purchase some things for the side mission but still..
I think the best option for you is to restart since you shouldn't spend that much money before being able to make money from Nimble Fingers. You should focus first on getting the stats required to steal both the jacket and the jewelry and then after that you can focus on the side and main quests. You can repeat the contracts and there's no time limit to them so that's the best way to grind.
Here is the contract guide: https://f95zone.to/threads/the-deluca-family-v0-09-5-hopesgaming.15459/post-5526957
 

roupe

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Btw you can see if the side quests and the main quests rewards even before completing them in the Journal so don't need to rush them too. And for the promotion to be available you will need to reach Level 5 so forget about that.
 

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Dude how did you even spend that much money? I mean you can purchase some things for the side mission but still..
I think the best option for you is to restart since you shouldn't spend that much money before being able to make money from Nimble Fingers. You should focus first on getting the stats required to steal both the jacket and the jewelry and then after that you can focus on the side and main quests. You can repeat the contracts and there's no time limit to them so that's the best way to grind.
Here is the contract guide: https://f95zone.to/threads/the-deluca-family-v0-09-5-hopesgaming.15459/post-5526957
Thanks for that guide. I searched, but couldn't find it. It will help. I spent the money on the pants, the wine, and a pair of pants and a shirt for the job. (Thought they would help instead of going in the MC's underwear). And restoring the HP after failing the mission 4 times.
 

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hi
can someone conform if this upadate has new main storry content ?
No, nobody can confirm that, from my understanding. This update add background story to some of the secondary characters and introduction to the contract system.
 

Cartageno

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Thanks for that guide. I searched, but couldn't find it. It will help. I spent the money on the pants, the wine, and a pair of pants and a shirt for the job. (Thought they would help instead of going in the MC's underwear).
They do help. Did you equip them?
 
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