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So when is the game gonna be getting a real update? Cause it just ends in the same place as the last update and that was quite some time ago.
A lot of stuff happened IRL for Hopes (the dev) during the past year;

- preparing Season 1 to be ready for Steam (people think it's easy but it isn't easy to find a bank which accept adult visual novel work. So while he eventually solved it, it was initially a bit of a struggle)
- got engaged
1) got his own place with his fiance with his own office space to work on the game now
2) Wedding planning

Previously he was working on this game only part time as a hobby; he only transitioned to Full time after Season 1 got released on Steam (late February).
So dust will need to settle on his IRL matter before he can fully commit to Season 2.
I'm sure he'll let us know when he's ready.
 

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It's fascinating how VNs are named, for example. S1CH1, S1EP1, CH1EP1 etc.

Developers tend to change something in the gameplay when changing S or changing CH.

One thing really bothers me here: When we meet in the entrance hall or in his room, the characters pop up in the foreground instead of standing in the room. In my opinion it's kind of "old school". Although this is not always the case, it is very common. This is only an example.

I wanted to ask if the developer has announced that they want to change anything about the gameplay for S2?
 

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It's fascinating how VNs are named, for example. S1CH1, S1EP1, CH1EP1 etc.

Developers tend to change something in the gameplay when changing S or changing CH.

One thing really bothers me here: When we meet in the entrance hall or in his room, the characters pop up in the foreground instead of standing in the room. In my opinion it's kind of "old school". Although this is not always the case, it is very common. This is only an example.

I wanted to ask if the developer has announced that they want to change anything about the gameplay for S2?
Hopes has stated today in his reply to me that he's gonna let things cool down a bit before returning to this thread for replies. So if you want to ask him a specific question, probably best to wait till he returns.

As for the character in the foreground thing, I didn't really mind them tbh.
It's not like all scenes are that way; for example. that Eiza event "Can I have this?", Wilfred is in MC's room (MC catching Eiza with his gun). That fully portrays Wilfred standing in MC's room.
Another example would be MC watching Luna trying to walk on high heels (and her falling over), and more.

Scenes which are quite important, it is shown to be specifically tailor rendered.
Dialogue scenes which don't matter as much (such as Wilfred delivering a package of wine to MC at his room)?
Characters are at foreground.

I feel game uses the adequate mixup; trying to have them all dedicated renders with those "in the room" renders I'd imagine would require far too much work for very little payoff (especially for scenes that don't really matter).


As for gameplay news, from what I know, Hopes will be keeping the contracts gameplay stuff into season 2.
Also, Lucania town freeroam from season 1 will be enhanced with more content; though I have no idea what they will be.
 

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Can you share it again? Not able to find it.
This quoted post below back in November last year has the sneak peek render of Season 2 attached.
However, currently the zone (this site, f95zone), there is an issue with all images and attachments, whether currently uploading or previously uploaded fail to load (actually in terms of previous posts, images come up broken).

So you won't be able to see it until the admins of this website get this issue fixed I think (when that happens, you'll be able to see it).


I'm sharing the following recent Dev Post with permission from HopesGaming (it's from his discord);



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This quoted post below back in November last year has the sneak peek render of Season 2 attached.
However, currently the zone (this site, f95zone), there is an issue with all images and attachments, whether currently uploading or previously uploaded fail to load (actually in terms of previous posts, images come up broken).

So you won't be able to see it until the admins of this website get this issue fixed I think (when that happens, you'll be able to see it).
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What Hopes said before (oh and just to let ya know, HopesGaming is a dude, not a gal; you wrote "herself." Of course there are couple of female devs out there of course, but Hopes is not one of them).

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What Hopes said before (oh and just to let ya know, HopesGaming is a dude, not a gal; you wrote "herself." Of course there are couple of female devs out there of course, but Hopes is not one of them).

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sorry, wrong Google translation. I'm not an English speaker. I already assumed he was male.
 
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What Hopes said before (oh and just to let ya know, HopesGaming is a dude, not a gal; you wrote "herself." Of course there are couple of female devs out there of course, but Hopes is not one of them).

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Hopes will be revealing MC's importance throughout seasons 2 & 3 gradually, cause he's keeping those cards pretty close to his chest (not surprised, those would be huge spoilers).
And as for his rank and position, well he did say that the MC will have a awakening moment of sort which will kick him out of the "always striving to be underestimated + survival most instinct" till now, and give him motivation to become stronger (probably that s01 cliffhanger ending will play a huge extent, but I'd imagine there are other factors which come into play also).

And he will get stronger and continue to get promoted to higher rank.

As for him swearing the oath (with the Soldato promotion event), and now having its last name (DeLuca), that's basically what every soldier goes through when they get inducted into the Family; hence that's not just unique to MC.


So just enjoy the ride, those questions you have will get answered in time. ;)
 
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Hopes will be revealing MC's importance throughout seasons 2 & 3 gradually, cause he's keeping those cards pretty close to his chest (not surprised, those would be huge spoilers).
And as for his rank and position, well he did say that the MC will have a awakening moment of sort which will kick him out of the "always striving to be underestimated + survival most instinct" till now, and give him motivation to become stronger (probably that s01 cliffhanger ending will play a huge extent, but I'd imagine there are other factors which come into play also).

And he will get stronger and continue to get promoted to higher rank.

As for him swearing the oath (with the Soldato promotion event), and now having its last name (DeLuca), that's basically what every soldier goes through when they get inducted into the Family; hence that's not just unique to MC.


So just enjoy the ride, those questions you have will get answered in time. ;)
But you have to admit, that's highly unusual, especially given the fact that the meeting takes place at the beginning of S2 (his words) -> not much time.

But I'm content for now and let's see how the DEV will justify it.
 

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Finished it for the first time, what an amazing Story so far.

And the best thing are all the amazing and unique characters (and there are cool male characters too, rare for AVNs).

I really can’t tell if i prefer Luna or Gracie, they are both awesome in their own way and I feel it will be the same with Cordia.

I have a few questions/thoughts about the general consensus about a few things:

The Serpents:

We don’t know who the fourth serpent is at the moment right?

And did Wilfried trained all of them or only Cordia from the original Serpents? Who trained them if not Wilfried

Is the Serpent a original serpent?


Who wants the MC dead?

It’s curious that the alliance against the DeLuca‘s (which MCs dad is a part of) doesn’t want him dead either.

Are we aware of any (strong) third party? Or does it have to be an inside job like Antonio (afraid to be ursurped?)

The lack of concern and investigation of the DeLucas is sometimes surprising like when someone gets poisoned on their family table.

I would expect people like Cordia and Wilfried to not stop investigating until they found the culprit … but maybe they did?

MCs mom

I suspect Ria saw all of this coming? Not saying she’s a good person or anything but I kinda don’t feel like she tortured her son for no reason. And it saved his life once already.

To me it seems that she knew that his life will always be in grave danger (due to where she and the father are? Two DeLuca founders out of four?).

It kinda connects to my first question about the serpents and if Ria got trained by Wilfried.

MCs Cameras:

I think it’s kinda strange that the MC has these cameras everywhere in the house yet is barely able to get any knowledge due to it.

Does Cordia and Wilfrief know about it and Crdia just surrendered her office?? This would mean they accept him recording the girls too ..

.. or do they really never talk about anything important or relating to the mc?

.. or was it just a dev decision from the beginning and were supposed to forget about the cam in the office (or did the mc removed it when he went there one night?)


The mysterious six:

How are these fuckers still around/alive after torturing so many kids of important people?

How was it possible for someone like Cordia to stop searching for them (even after Luna was back?), I can’t see someone like her stopping until they are all dead.

Damn I can’t wait for the epicness of Luna killing goatee fucker.

Do you guys think anyone we know at this point is related to them? And any idea what their goal is/was?

Do you think visiting Gaia at the orphanage will be wholesome or gruesome? Is Gaia still (or again) a guardian angel or will Luna have to kill her … ?


The cliffhanger:

Why the fuck shoot Gracie? Why not Cordia or Antonio as they are higher up? Or was the bullet supposed for MC?

And was this really the silverino-alliance? It kinda didn’t felt like it.

But I kinda hope this leads to us seeing Cordia in action for the first time, i imagine this will be a sight to behold.

Pretty sure Cordia‘s mind works the same as Gracie’s and her skills are far superior to Luna‘s. She’s afraid of Gracie becoming like her.

Do you guys think Cordia is stronger/would best The Serpent in a fight?
 

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The Serpents:

We don’t know who the fourth serpent is at the moment right?

And did Wilfried trained all of them or only Cordia from the original Serpents? Who trained them if not Wilfried

Is the Serpent a original serpent?
We don't know the answer to any of those questions yet and yes we don't know who the 4th serpent is either.

Who wants the MC dead?

It’s curious that the alliance against the DeLuca‘s (which MCs dad is a part of) doesn’t want him dead either.

Are we aware of any (strong) third party? Or does it have to be an inside job like Antonio (afraid to be ursurped?)

The lack of concern and investigation of the DeLucas is sometimes surprising like when someone gets poisoned on their family table.

I would expect people like Cordia and Wilfried to not stop investigating until they found the culprit … but maybe they did?
Two options, either someone who knows why the MC is on his contract and wants to make the DeLucas break their part of the deal within it. Or revenge, as in someone his mom or dad has wronged.

MCs mom

I suspect Ria saw all of this coming? Not saying she’s a good person or anything but I kinda don’t feel like she tortured her son for no reason. And it saved his life once already.

To me it seems that she knew that his life will always be in grave danger (due to where she and the father are? Two DeLuca founders out of four?).

It kinda connects to my first question about the serpents and if Ria got trained by Wilfried.
Hope said that she was extremely powerful back in her days and that she possesses a very rare and deadly skill. In the story so far, she certainly won't win any mother of the year awards but most of us also agree that there is more to her than what we know so far.

MCs Cameras:

I think it’s kinda strange that the MC has these cameras everywhere in the house yet is barely able to get any knowledge due to it.

Does Cordia and Wilfrief know about it and Crdia just surrendered her office?? This would mean they accept him recording the girls too ..

.. or do they really never talk about anything important or relating to the mc?

.. or was it just a dev decision from the beginning and were supposed to forget about the cam in the office (or did the mc removed it when he went there one night?)
I believe Hope used them as a story telling tool, to tell us something without the MC being present while not divulging too much and for some lewds without the need to progress the relationship with anyone.

The mysterious six:

How are these fuckers still around/alive after torturing so many kids of important people?

How was it possible for someone like Cordia to stop searching for them (even after Luna was back?), I can’t see someone like her stopping until they are all dead.

Damn I can’t wait for the epicness of Luna killing goatee fucker.

Do you guys think anyone we know at this point is related to them? And any idea what their goal is/was?

Do you think visiting Gaia at the orphanage will be wholesome or gruesome? Is Gaia still (or again) a guardian angel or will Luna have to kill her … ?
What they did seemed a lot like an attempt at indoctrination. As to why and how they got away with it, we don't know enough yet to make a guess.

The cliffhanger:

Why the fuck shoot Gracie? Why not Cordia or Antonio as they are higher up? Or was the bullet supposed for MC?

And was this really the silverino-alliance? It kinda didn’t felt like it.

But I kinda hope this leads to us seeing Cordia in action for the first time, i imagine this will be a sight to behold.

Pretty sure Cordia‘s mind works the same as Gracie’s and her skills are far superior to Luna‘s. She’s afraid of Gracie becoming like her.

Do you guys think Cordia is stronger/would best The Serpent in a fight?
There are many different theories out there, and I agree with you kiling Gracie considering who else was available as a target makes no sense in terms of a rival family. I believe its either personal, like someone wanted to make Cordia watch her youngest child get killed, or to keep the Delucas occupied while something else will happen.

As to Cordia being stronger, in terms of the game world only Hope can answer that, but if you base it on reality, style makes fights and I wouldn't wanna go up against someone who can shoot the eyelash off of a fly from a mile away.
 
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