Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[HornyyPussy]

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[Cartageno]

small comparision of render quality of DeLuca Family and other VNs that came out recently:

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note that i only provided 2 different examples from 2 seperate games and could do many more, i also could cherry pick said examples and pick one that is in low lighting enviroment for DeLuca Family and make it look even less impressive in comparision as those seems be usually the worst looking ones. also i don't really understand what do you mean by "technical point of view". if you are talking about coding of the game, than most VNs run on ren'py, it's hard to fuck up that aspect of the game.

Thanks for providing examples - even though your first example (second image) doesn't help too much due to lighting being very dark, I can see clear differences between 1 and 3, so I will cede that point. Still not game breaking at all for me.

 

[Osider]

I don't usually name my saves, i just recognize the scene in the thumbnail... so i can't speak to that.

But if you want a similar mafia like game... basically Eternum (Humor) + Deluca tone, try "My Bully is My Lover". But be warned, you'll laugh at one scene and almost be brought to tears in the next. It's an emotional rollercoaster.

No I mean at the very start when you name the mc it crashed, but at that point will simply wait S2 before retrying it.

 

[Krytax123]

So about Wilfred's "vision"

Everything seems to point towards this being the future:



Its like both are amazing on their own with their skillset (but still inferior to Cordia for example who posseses both but may not on a level like them) but working together they could achieve true greatness (superior to cordia for example).

Or is it like Gracie alone could already surpass Cordia? Is Cordia only afraid because she thinks Gracie could become like herself or does she think Gracie's potential (for good but for esp worse things too) is even higher compared to herself?

Im not sure im describing this good enough, im just using Cordia as something to compared their abilitys/skillset to.

So Gracie's part is the longterm planning, while the MC's part is the variables and the empathy (which is esp nessecary to offset gracie's lacking empathy).

And while Cordia and Wilfred can always take the role of a advisor .. whats Luna's role in all this? Is she just supposed to be the (strong) grunt for MC/Gracie? I feel like im missing something, is she the one to honor the underworld-codes (like she did with the gun-prodigy, and neither MC nor Gracie give a fuck about that) or what's her "part"?

 

[Jimayo]

i also could cherry pick

Could? You already did. I have seen plenty of games in the last 6 months that have significantly lower render quality than all 3 of the images you posted. You cherry picked your examples specifically to knock the render quality in this game.

 

[Krytax123]

Could? You already did. I have seen plenty of games in the last 6 months that have significantly lower render quality than all 3 of the images you posted. You cherry picked your examples specifically to knock the render quality in this game.

Its whatever anyway, the renders are good enough and have their own kind of artstyle. Its always possible to make renders look better, to invest more time in lightning and stuff but the deluca dev seems kinda short of time anyway.

I prefer the dev investing the time to continue the story with the render-quality we have atm every day over putting even more work/time into the renders and a slower development. Its always a tradeoff and comparing ongoing avns to new ones which may or may not ever get a second episode is nonsense anyway.

 

[Cartageno]

Could? You already did. I have seen plenty of games in the last 6 months that have significantly lower render quality than all 3 of the images you posted. You cherry picked your examples specifically to knock the render quality in this game.

To be fair though - the expression aside - I specifically asked about technical advancements past the level of this. I would still not subscribe to the original statement along the lines of (paraphrased) DeLuca being outdated, but showing me better graphics was relevant to my question.

Then again, some of the best (non adult) games had already quite aged graphics when they released, and some graphic bombs tanked because everything else was lacking. Even though here graphics may be more important than in non adult games in general, I guess it is the same here. (Which should not be a statement of the two example games they picked, I don't recognize them and thus cannot comment on that.)

 

[Cartageno]

Its whatever anyway, the renders are good enough and have their own kind of artstyle. Its always possible to make renders look better, to invest more time in lightning and stuff but the deluca dev seems kinda short of time anyway.

I prefer the dev investing the time to continue the story with the render-quality we have atm every day over putting even more work/time into the renders and a slower development. Its always a tradeoff and comparing ongoing avns to new ones which may or may not ever get a second episode is nonsense anyway.

Well, there is at least one dev on this site, not gonna mention his name, let it be lost to the waves across the seas, who refines and refines and refines and redoes, slowing the actual game progress to a halt. And to what use? In 3 years there would be newer possibilities as well.

 

[minibaer12]

So about Wilfred's "vision"

Everything seems to point towards this being the future:

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Its like both are amazing on their own with their skillset (but still inferior to Cordia for example who posseses both but may not on a level like them) but working together they could achieve true greatness (superior to cordia for example).

Or is it like Gracie alone could already surpass Cordia? Is Cordia only afraid because she thinks Gracie could become like herself or does she think Gracie's potential (for good but for esp worse things too) is even higher compared to herself?

Im not sure im describing this good enough, im just using Cordia as something to compared their abilitys/skillset to.

So Gracie's part is the longterm planning, while the MC's part is the variables and the empathy (which is esp nessecary to offset gracie's lacking empathy).

And while Cordia and Wilfred can always take the role of a advisor .. whats Luna's role in all this? Is she just supposed to be the (strong) grunt for MC/Gracie? I feel like im missing something, is she the one to honor the underworld-codes (like she did with the gun-prodigy, and neither MC nor Gracie give a fuck about that) or what's her "part"?

For me, Luna is THE fighter par excellence. Unfortunately, I didn't see any progress during S1.

What is more than clearly visible with Garcie and MC. They are getting stronger day by day. In my opinion they haven't reached the level of Cordia or Wilfred yet, but it's only a matter of time!!! I think they're getting much, much stronger.

If you throw the three together, something sinister results. From their own mission you could already get a very good idea of what they are capable of. And their development is not yet complete!!! I trust them to be able to stir up the underworld.

And now there is another factor that is often ignored. The MC has two very loyal protagonists at his side: Eiza and Joey. Both of them have very amazing abilities and skills in their own right.

Finally, there is another component that I trust will act as an initial spark: REVENGE

 

[Krytax123]

Well, there is at least one dev on this site, not gonna mention his name, let it be lost to the waves across the seas, who refines and refines and refines and redoes, slowing the actual game progress to a halt. And to what use? In 3 years there would be newer possibilities as well.

I dont like compareing devs and their methods, i like the dev you mentioned and despite the reworks there was more content produced compared to the deluca family. But whatever, i like both devs and both are doing what they think is the best for their avn.
And the dev you mentioned defines himself kinda over the visual aspect while the Deluca-Family is defined to be a awesome and amazing story, the goals and approaches are just different.

Now im comparing too ..

Whatever for me the renders in the deluca family are looking good and unique and dont need a upgrade imo

For me, Luna is THE fighter par excellence. Unfortunately, I didn't see any progress during S1.

What is more than clearly visible with Garcie and MC. They are getting stronger day by day. In my opinion they haven't reached the level of Cordia or Wilfred yet, but it's only a matter of time!!! I think they're getting much, much stronger.

If you throw the three together, something sinister results. From their own mission you could already get a very good idea of what they are capable of. And their development is not yet complete!!! I trust them to be able to stir up the underworld.

And now there is another factor that is often ignored. The MC has two very loyal protagonists at his side: Eiza and Joey. Both of them have very amazing abilities and skills in their own right.

Finally, there is another component that I trust will act as an initial spark: REVENGE

Yeah i was talking about the potentials, neither gracie nor mc or luna are anywhere close to cordia's level at this point of the story. And their rise to the top (mc, gracie, luna) is of course obvious and yeah Luna is an amazing fighter but i think gracie and mc will catch up in fighting prowess and im just wondering what else Luna will bring to the table to complement the "power-trio" and i think there is something im missing.

 

[minibaer12]

Yeah i was talking about the potentials, neither gracie nor mc or luna are anywhere close to cordia's level at this point of the story. And their rise to the top (mc, gracie, luna) is of course obvious and yeah Luna is an amazing fighter but i think gracie and mc will catch up in fighting prowess and im just wondering what else Luna will bring to the table to complement the "power-trio" and i think there is something im missing.

Do you know what I thought first when the cliffhanger credits rolled?

"That was a really big error!"

I hope and pray that the Dev thinks along the same lines, because an event like this bonds people together like pitch and brimstone.

 

[Anime34guy]

How to unlock the other contract columns stuck with D contracts?

 

[JJJ84]

How to unlock the other contract columns stuck with D contracts?

You don't.
There's no content for those other columns contracts yet.

 

[Black Orchid]

Could? You already did. I have seen plenty of games in the last 6 months that have significantly lower render quality than all 3 of the images you posted. You cherry picked your examples specifically to knock the render quality in this game.

this is not a bad game so i compared it with other games i believe have the makings to be very good as well. you woudn't compare a ferrari with a toyota, would you? i don't understand why you are being so hostile as well, this games renders are not up to 2024 standards, by the 2018 standards they are very good, however trying to claim that they can hold the candle to other NEWER games with GOOD standards is just pure delusion. i also could provide many more examples of games that look way better visually. in the modern VN market good renders are a must cause that is essentially what brings in the most players, this is pretty much evident by the amount of slop VNs that have only good renders to show for and are still VERY VERY successful. also i remind you that you can be critical of something and still like it, i think a ton of people keep forgetting about that.

 

[c3p0]

this is not a bad game so i compared it with other games i believe have the makings to be very good as well. you woudn't compare a ferrari with a toyota, would you? i don't understand why you are being so hostile as well, this games renders are not up to 2024 standards, by the 2018 standards they are very good, however trying to claim that they can hold the candle to other NEWER games with GOOD standards is just pure delusion. i also could provide many more examples of games that look way better visually. in the modern VN market good renders are a must cause that is essentially what brings in the most players, this is pretty much evident by the amount of slop VNs that have only good renders to show for and are still VERY VERY successful. also i remind you that you can be critical of something and still like it, i think a ton of people keep forgetting about that.

Well, my retort would be Midlife Crisis. A game with solid graphic, but for sure not top regardless if 2018 or 2024. Yet, it is one hell of the game, cause the writting is top notch.
For another one Final Fantasy VI (PS1 edition), I've played it at the time of PS4/3 and already played other older titels, but even for a PS1 game the graphics are lacking. Yet, after some adaption time, I found it one of the best RPGs I've played.

Also the graphics, in my eyes are good and better than a lot what comes out in 2024. Could they be better? Sure, they always could always be better as another devs know that one too.
For me good graphics are enough, I can even live with so-so or little poor ones, if the rest of tge game is good and make fun.

So for me, the overall package is much more important than good or bad graphics. Also real life has the best graphic, but the rest is so-so.

 

[JJJ84]

in the modern VN market good renders are a must cause that is essentially what brings in the most players

I don't necessarily agree with this part.

One example which refutes it is Midlife Crisis (but seems like c3p0 beat me to the punch to it ).
Other examples would be games like Light of my Life, & Karlsson's Gambit (there should be more, but those are the ones I remember lol).
The above 3 games it's not like people would even consider them good renders especially with the current 2024 standard, but are considered to have a pretty big player base and devoted following with them.

And yes, there are people who are just graphics whores out there, but like my droid friend, I'd like to think of the whole package.

In fact, as my sig says at the bottom, for me personally I'd put much higher emphasis on the writing than on the graphics.
They just are the bigger selling point to get me hooked on the games.

 

[Black Orchid]

Well, my retort would be Midlife Crisis.

One example which refutes it is Midlife Crisis (but seems like c3p0 beat me to the punch to it ).
Other examples would be games like Light of my Life, & Karlsson's Gambit (there should be more, but those are the ones I remember lol).

there will be always outliers, that was mostly a generalized statement, but if you look at the VNs that do best numbers on steam the fucking and eye candy are usually on the forefront, not the story.

 

[Jimayo]

this is not a bad game so i compared it with other games i believe have the makings to be very good as well. you woudn't compare a ferrari with a toyota, would you? i don't understand why you are being so hostile as well, this games renders are not up to 2024 standards, by the 2018 standards they are very good, however trying to claim that they can hold the candle to other NEWER games with GOOD standards is just pure delusion. i also could provide many more examples of games that look way better visually. in the modern VN market good renders are a must cause that is essentially what brings in the most players, this is pretty much evident by the amount of slop VNs that have only good renders to show for and are still VERY VERY successful. also i remind you that you can be critical of something and still like it, i think a ton of people keep forgetting about that.

I can't see a difference between the renders you posted personally. And frankly, the science behind how the eye sees enhanced graphics is pretty definitive. Beyond a certain level of quality the eye can't distinguish a difference. There's very little difference to the eye between 720p and 1080p and people who say they can see a difference between... I can't remember the exact numbers but let's say 1080p and 4k actually don't, it's all in their heads. To the eye there really isn't a difference beyond a certain level. The graphics in this game hold quite well 6 years later.

 

[Jimayo]

Well, my retort would be Midlife Crisis. A game with solid graphic,

I would strongly disagree. Just to be clear, I love the game. Depending on the choices you make, of course, it's very cute and romantic, but the renders are not what makes that game good.

 

[Black Orchid]

I can't see a difference between the renders you posted personally. And frankly, the science behind how the eye sees enhanced graphics is pretty definitive. Beyond a certain level of quality the eye can't distinguish a difference. There's very little difference to the eye between 720p and 1080p and people who say they can see a difference between... I can't remember the exact numbers but let's say 1080p and 4k actually don't, it's all in their heads. To the eye there really isn't a difference beyond a certain level. The graphics in this game hold quite well 6 years later.

so you're saying all the manufacturers selling high-res displays are scammers and all people that use them are delusional? do i even need to respond to this?