- Oct 5, 2017
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Love it.
It's really difficult to wait for another update, but it will be worth the time.
It's really difficult to wait for another update, but it will be worth the time.
Click continue, if nothing make sure you did the Soldato promotion event...Still event 5 " The Proud Fazio " is pending... Don't know whats missing ????????
Click continue, if nothing make sure you did the Soldato promotion event...
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Just started playing the game. I'm impressed that it has a real story and isn't just a fap fest. Characters are attractive and not deformed with massively unnatural proportions. No NTR so far, every woman isn't having sex with every other woman, women don't seem to be degraded and the men aren't wussies being dominated. An actual "adult" VN, not something meant to appeal to someone stuck in their parent's basement who has no idea what women are like other than what they've seen in porn. Good job.Well, that went south real fast. I thought I made it clear I didn't see it as an attack nor was my reply and attack (on you nor your review). So no struck nerves.
But alas it's on the text so it not always that easy to see the intentions. So I will make it clear again- my reply was simply my view on some of your points. Doesn't mean you're wrong or right nor does it mean I am wrong or right. Simply my point of view.
First thing first "Btw if you'd like this text to be in the review so it's no longer just 270 words I'll happily oblige. Just say the word."
Absolutely not, nothing wrong with your review nor should you change the star rating. It's biased free and reflects your opinion on the game.
Now, I cannot disagree with the shit coding part. I am still learning to code and it's always changing.
But I do disagree with it being unnecessary. For me, it is part of the immersive elements on how he is progressing throughout the Family and the ranks. Could be done with events and such but that is a huge undertaking. Same with stats, they play a role for both immersions but also for future parts. (love stats give extra scenes and MC stats will affect the future) This game is in development so the framework of that part is in constant change. That does not mean I believe it should be removed. But improved? Yes of course.
Free-roaming and story sections are separated for a reason. It's for the players to control the pace. They do the more *serious* story by clicking the continue button (vn style) and they play around the free-roaming when they want to relax and develop relationships with the girls. This system has worked really well so far and the majority of the feedback on that playstyle has been positive. It can feel disjointed if you see the system as something that is supposed to be *combined* in the sense that both sections should give the same outcomes and results. They do affect each other but in the end, are separated for a reason and the game do tell that (even with an in-game help section to explain it)
"Fuck, if these are mafiosos there should be hookers around right?"
I have heard those kinds of stuff a couple of times now too. 'This is a mafia game so there should be A or B' but I am creating my own universe with my own ruleset. I don't do anything that is supposed to be (hence the weirdness of the game).
There will be strippers, hookers, minor characters, and so on. But I will not add it simply for the sake of 'game must have sexual stuff'. That feels artificial to me.
"The last point (lack of lewds) I feel can't be argued with"
This I heavily disagree with. First of all yes, in an adult game, there should be adult stuff in. But I think where I disagree is your view on what is adult and what is not. In this game there is groping, nudity, grinding, kissing, fingering, pussy play and so on. Yet for you, this game is considered non-adult. You're saying there are other sites that take non-adult game but which sites accept a game with the tags mentioned above? Hence it has to go on the more physical side before you will label it as an acceptable adult game but this creates a limbo for the fans of the genre as games such as these will always be labeled adult (hard to create a family-friendly game with fingering of the female genitalia). Of course in the future, it will be way more physical, but rushing it (and adding side characters/events solely to force the game to have sex) is imo not necessary and a 'trap' many new devs fall into (I must add sex or my game will fail!).
And by the playerbase, this has received so far, and the people that like it means there is a market for games such as these. Games that can thrive without using the usual tropes such as early side characters to simply have sex with or events for the sole purpose of getting sexual stuff out there as fast as possible. (In fact, many people tend to skip start sex scenes as they have yet to develop any relationship with early side characters)
So about your last part about fixing/improved. No, I do not think it needs fixing as all of these elements were meant to be as such. Improved however is something that is always a priority.
But does all of these things mean you are wrong and I am right? Absolutely not. It simply shows that you have some preferences and views that are yours. And hence I don't want you to change your review or anything like that as it is a perfect reflection of what you think this game is and same-minded people like you will read it and can have a better understand or in other cases save some time altogether.
The main thing to take is that we should be careful to confuse preference as fact. Or preferences as 'this is how it is supposed to be'. Everyone is different and everyone have different needs. There are genres and style for everyone. The slow build-up to instant gratifications. Both are adult games. Just with different approaches.
Hope I explained myself better this time around, heh.
TD:LR nothing is wrong with your view nor your review. And a game is still an adult game even if it's only a bit of groping, nudity and finger play at the start.
*peeks in; blushes and runs off again*Yes, this was Nottravis way of saying thanks for the shoutout I gave her.
Granted there is no need as her game deserves all the attention.
For people who have yet to check it out- Heavy Five. Check it out. Quality game
This game usually gets an update every 2 - 2 1/2 months but was delayed this month. Feel free to use the search feature to look up the posts. Given that HopesGaming is basically creating this game solo I think he's been doing an overall great job at balancing good sized updates in a reasonable amount of time. All I can say is keep up the great work it's worth the wait.The game is pretty decent quality, but damn the updates take a while.
I think the dev has to think in more practical terms here, because if the average update takes 4-5 months to release, and the game is gonna need 6-7 updates more to actually be called finished, then we're looking at over 2 more years of development time. What are the chances that real life issues won't get in-between him and this project? Or that he won't simply grow bored of it?
Look at how many games end up abandoned because of this same exact reason.
I hope I'm wrong and/or the release cycle gets smaller, cause otherwise I really doubt this will ever be completed.
Acting lesson from DrPinkCake and his new game Being a DIK@HopesGaming
since u called Call of the Void a good quality Game and i absolutely agree with you on that
i wonder any other Games u would recommend ?
makes waiting for a new Release of DeLuca easier..
p.s. oops big mistake i made i meant Heavy Fife - guess one drink too many yesterday...
That is very true indeed. But notice how in the dialogue wheel the red mark is explained as some kind of ritual for the Family members and not as the Hindu mark? The advantages of creating your own universe, you can turn everything upside down. I'm weird I know, heh.I am just putting fact and nothing serious.
The "Jalan" is from "Kaskar Family". Father's name "Parvez Kaskar" Its a Muslim community. And they don't put red mark on their forehead. I guess makers tried to co relate this to India or something but fact is that its Hindu thing not Muslims. Hindus call it "Tilak" , its their ritual.
Just an info for make it more realistic. Please don't judge me for that.
I understand that the updates can feel like it takes long as there have been two delays in a row. But remember the game is only at 0.04 so not many samples of updates to judge the overall update speed on.The game is pretty decent quality, but damn the updates take a while.
I think the dev has to think in more practical terms here, because if the average update takes 4-5 months to release, and the game is gonna need 6-7 updates more to actually be called finished, then we're looking at over 2 more years of development time. What are the chances that real life issues won't get in-between him and this project? Or that he won't simply grow bored of it?
Look at how many games end up abandoned because of this same exact reason.
I hope I'm wrong and/or the release cycle gets smaller, cause otherwise I really doubt this will ever be completed.
Don't misunderstand, I wasn't talking about the people who pledge or unpledged. That is always understandable. Be that real-life finance, finding other devs, delays, and whatnot. Part of the life of Patreon.HopesGaming i love your artstyles and the way of your games same as many of your listed possibilities , but on the other side i must say you are wrong in the part with the power of the Patreons. Its a shame that it is going down in this direction that many scream on the devs , but let us see the People´s side after that so many abondended Games and milked Patreons . For me its not good either that they start madness so fast but it gives to many reasons why it started to bring more and more People to this mood swing. Ok many are ignorant and dont see what really is needed to do such stuff by themself and that evrything needs time but others started only after many bad memory´s from other Dev´s . I see booth sides from the Dev´s who have to do their Lifestuff and the creation and the Supporters who sometimes should look wich Dev really should be avoided and dont make bad mood on the wrong PeopleSry for my bad englisch ^^
There's been plenty of super passionate devs that came to the realization that they'd have to keep working for years on their own games in order to actually finish them, and they simply abandoned the games. If you search the "game" category and start from the oldest page, you'd see more than half of those games back then (western ones) ended up with the abandoned tag.And finally- if I grow bored with DeLuca?
Now, some people here are going to disagree with me but I do not believe anyone here loves DeLuca as much as I do.
People can love Luna, Cordia, Gracie, etc. more than me but DeLuca itself? Yeah, that is simply not possible, heh.
That's what I'm hoping, but I've seen this pattern before to the point where this is really typical. So I wish you keep enjoying to work on it and finish it eventually.You can't take these two last update as "well this is something that will always happen". Life is life, the unexpected happens and the only thing you can do is adept and move on.
Well, it turned 4 months a couple of days ago since the last update, and I doubt that the game will be released this month. So that's delayed more than just 1 month.This game usually gets an update every 2 - 2 1/2 months but was delayed this month.
That won't be a problem since I expected this to be a long-time commitment. It's not uncommon for a game to take 2+ years in development. It's just that we usually just see the end product and we never really think about the time it takes to make a game. For a simple VN sure it can be low (1 year to under), but anything else takes a big time commitment. So no surprise from my side.There's been plenty of super passionate devs that came to the realization that they'd have to keep working for years on their own games in order to actually finish them, and they simply abandoned the games. If you search the "game" category and start from the oldest page, you'd see more than half of those games back then (western ones) ended up with the abandoned tag.
That's what I'm hoping, but I've seen this pattern before to the point where this is really typical. So I wish you keep enjoying to work on it and finish it eventually.
Well, it turned 4 months a couple of days ago since the last update, and I doubt that the game will be released this month. So that's delayed more than just 1 month.
What can I say, life's a bitch and there's not much anyone can do about it. Even AAA games with multi-million dollar budgets and huge dev team can end up being delayed. The update will be released when it's ready as long as I know that development is ongoing I can live with delays every now and then.Well, it turned 4 months a couple of days ago since the last update, and I doubt that the game will be released this month. So that's delayed more than just 1 month.
Then I wish you good luck and I hope my cynicism is uncalled for.That won't be a problem since I expected this to be a long-time commitment.