yeap, hence curiosityNo. I know Cordia looks like an angel, but I think you're still alive.
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No, no, it's absolutely not a cunning plan to have more of this kind of picture. Absolutely not. How dare you even suggest I'd be so vile!?
It is. It is absolutely my plan.
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how can you activate the femme fatale? it says daytime but theres not a daytime its either afternoon or evening so which is it? thanks
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That part is going good (finished with it basically)
I'm rather proud of it and look forward to showing it.
It's true that the fight scene takes a bit of time. Especially due to the learning as I want it to be special and not the standard fight scene. But the delay was due to real life and not so much the work on the battle scene. Hence I stopped patreon billing for that month.
Changing angel pictures has always been the plan. Just not by updates but by how far they are with their content.
Spoiler- Luna is definitely getting a new angel picture in the near future
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I normally don't tag review as I want it to be as biased free as possible (unless there are direct questions inside the reviews towards me) but there was something in your review that I wanted to point out.
"I get the slight feeling there is some shilling going on here"
Now, I cannot say if the game deserves to be top 10 or not, that is for the individual to judge as I'm just making something I enjoy, but I can assure you that I have never done anything shady regarding the review system. Remember, your view is your view and not necessarily the only view. Where you see it as disjointed others may find it coherent and hence build their reviews based upon that.
This is not an attack on you or the review (all reviews no matter star ratings and opinions are welcome) but that last part with accusing me of doing something shady just rubbed me the wrong way.
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Looks like Luna really sucks at opening strawberry jam jars...
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damn, that look of sadness on her face, just makes me want to give her a big hug.
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Wow I guess this happens at the end of our raid. Seems there will be blood, lots of it. Highly anticipating it man
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Noted. I'd like to defend myself by saying that "getting a slight feeling" isn't really a serious accusation and I do in no way claim to have proof that shilling is going on. It just seemed very mysterious to me that this game was ranking so extremely highly despite not even being an adult game, and early in development, on this adult games site. When looking for plausible explanations I also noticed a lot of minimum-length 5-star reviews while the longer ones tended to be 3 or 4 stars. I simply reached for what in my mind was the simplest explanation. I do understand however that being accused of malicious practices can be a serious thing, no matter how "slight" the feeling is, and I will remove that particular word from my review. If I ruffle any feathers I want it to be with legitimate criticism, not baseless accusations of malicious practices. To be fair this game is truly one of a kind, and who am I to judge if others here really just like what's unique even if it breaks from the expectation of being an adult game? I've seen enough signatures with your banner to know that your following is real and consists of real people. It doesn't seem too far fetched now that I've thought about it more and I've also noticed that minimum-length 5-star reviews seem to be the norm on more games than just this one.
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Rumor has it she tried to explode the lid off, it worked. Kind of.
Its nice to see them again. Never noticed the detail about Gracie. And with what you said in mind, now I understand how the character will evolve. Again. Wonderful.
Sidenote. You are really active. Thank you for giving the time to respond to our comments. Read your announcement yesterday about the delays but you still give time to your work. Kudos.
luna also made a cameo in timestamps at the mayors house
I appreciate that and also why I specifically made sure to write it wasn't an attack on you or your review. Now, I again must say that my view is a bit different from yours.
You say that the lower rating reviews are longer than the higher rated reviews. But let's take a look.
In the first page of the review system. The longest worded one is by Huitime which is a positive review with a high rating. (340+ words)
Yours is 270 words. The rest of the more negative rated is at the 50-100 worded reviews.
Which is the rather normal range for both negative and positive reviews. It's just that the sample between them are different with the majority are on the positive side hence it can give the illusion that only positive reviews are short reviews.
On the second page, the longest review is a whooping 1200 worded review and positive rate made by zippity (known as the site's reviewer and very biased free). Many other lengthy reviews that exceed 500-700+ words.
In fact, your review with 270 words is actually the highest worded (on the negative end) of reviews.
So, it may appear as positive reviews are on the short end of words due to the amount but with a bit of a deeper look into it then it is the other way around and I think the main reason for that is that negative reviews have one thing in common;
Where da sex at?!
I would say 99% of the bad reviews stem for that and that only. And as this is the only complaint they cannot write lengthy reviews as the subject is fast disclosed with simple sentences.
In your case, you also had disjointed alongside the lack of adult part and hence a bit more worded. But I think that is a rare exception as the majority do not find it disjointed so does not share that. (Does not mean your review of disjointed is wrong. What is disjointed for some may not be for others.)
But it is, however, a rarety and I think I've only heard it from one other person. And I've am rather active among my player base and have spoken to hundreds of 'em. And do so on a daily base (discords, forums, etc.)
About the lack of adult stuff, throughout the thread, I have discussed this in length and on many occasions.
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I know you are not being malicious in any way or shape but simply stating your view (which is civil and no problem at all) and thank you for the kind words on the art and the other part of the game.
This is simply me on a bored Friday that wanted to share my view and opinions on the different stuff before I go back to work, haha.
I try to be as active as I can. But there are days where life is simply too busy for me to get on the forums on a daily base. So more of a spike of activity.
Actually, I tend to ghost read and reply when time allows it, heh.
Yup I know and it's an awesome cameo! In fact, whenever you see a cameo then most devs would know already as devs ask devs if it's okay.
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Ok since I've seem to have struck a nerve so I will elaborate a bit. The bit about review length was another "gut feel" reaction and I will gladly accept I'm wrong. I even disqualified my own argument in my last point so is there really any point to keep arguing about it? Does it affect the rating I've given and what I feel the game deserves? No.
I'll try to better explain my rating:
Disjointed to me means all over the place with no clear direction in mind. Random snippets which do not seem to tie in together. I feel this is definitely the case with the mob missions mini game and player stats - they add nothing for me and just seems out of place. The story does not need a mini game to be there. It also isn't particularly fun, it just feels like work and is honestly quite shit coded, forcing me to click a million times all over the screen for only a text response and some more money. It's a grind simply put. And not the good kind. The free roaming dating sim thing seems out of place too. It has some function in progressing the story forward but is it really necessary? I don't think so, at least not in the game's current state. I could maybe see it becoming decent when we've gotten to know the girls better and there are multiple levels to progress through with rewards. Though honestly I'd actually just rather see all of that cut. I feel this game tries to be too many things instead of focusing on the strengths (which I feel are: main story, dialogues and art). If your game was a pure VN (with or without branching story) I would have given it a 4. If it also had hot lewd bits in it, it's a 5. I'm not saying "MC needs to fuck everyone" mind you, there are other ways of delivering sexiness than having MC plow every other main character right off the bat. Some classic ideas here are having the MC stumble upon scenes between other characters, or having a minor character that's not involved in the story deliver it. Fuck, if these are mafiosos there should be hookers around right? I could even see that working. Where's the mafioso-meeting-at-strip-club-scene? Ever seen Sopranos? Truly a missed opportunity! The last point (lack of lewds) I feel can't be argued with. This is an adult games site and there are adult expectations. If you want your game to be judged purely on it's non-adult content then there are other places for that. I will dock a point in any review on this site if I feel it's not an "adult" game, no matter how good it othewise is. -Unless you just created the new Deus Ex. You may be good, but nobody is that good.
Can these things be fixed/improved? Absolutely. Can I see myself giving this game a 5 in the future? Sure!
As of now however, I feel 3 is appropriate.
Btw if you'd like this text to be in the review so it's no longer just 270 words I'll happily oblige. Just say the word.
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for what its worth ive been on the forum for a year or so and this is the first game i bothered to rate or post a massage on.
btw i love the sandbox feel to it and that its not instantly gratifying and we actually get to know the characters #1 game on my list.
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Well, that went south real fast. I thought I made it clear I didn't see it as an attack nor was my reply and attack (on you nor your review). So no struck nerves.
But alas it's on the text so it not always that easy to see the intentions. So I will make it clear again- my reply was simply my view on some of your points. Doesn't mean you're wrong or right nor does it mean I am wrong or right. Simply my point of view.
First thing first "Btw if you'd like this text to be in the review so it's no longer just 270 words I'll happily oblige. Just say the word."
Absolutely not, nothing wrong with your review nor should you change the star rating. It's biased free and reflects your opinion on the game.
Now, I cannot disagree with the shit coding part. I am still learning to code and it's always changing.
But I do disagree with it being unnecessary. For me, it is part of the immersive elements on how he is progressing throughout the Family and the ranks. Could be done with events and such but that is a huge undertaking. Same with stats, they play a role for both immersions but also for future parts. (love stats give extra scenes and MC stats will affect the future) This game is in development so the framework of that part is in constant change. That does not mean I believe it should be removed. But improved? Yes of course.
Free-roaming and story sections are separated for a reason. It's for the players to control the pace. They do the more *serious* story by clicking the continue button (vn style) and they play around the free-roaming when they want to relax and develop relationships with the girls. This system has worked really well so far and the majority of the feedback on that playstyle has been positive. It can feel disjointed if you see the system as something that is supposed to be *combined* in the sense that both sections should give the same outcomes and results. They do affect each other but in the end, are separated for a reason and the game do tell that (even with an in-game help section to explain it)
"Fuck, if these are mafiosos there should be hookers around right?"
I have heard those kinds of stuff a couple of times now too. 'This is a mafia game so there should be A or B' but I am creating my own universe with my own ruleset. I don't do anything that is supposed to be (hence the weirdness of the game).
There will be strippers, hookers, minor characters, and so on. But I will not add it simply for the sake of 'game must have sexual stuff'. That feels artificial to me.
"The last point (lack of lewds) I feel can't be argued with"
This I heavily disagree with. First of all yes, in an adult game, there should be adult stuff in. But I think where I disagree is your view on what is adult and what is not. In this game there is groping, nudity, grinding, kissing, fingering, pussy play and so on. Yet for you, this game is considered non-adult. You're saying there are other sites that take non-adult game but which sites accept a game with the tags mentioned above? Hence it has to go on the more physical side before you will label it as an acceptable adult game but this creates a limbo for the fans of the genre as games such as these will always be labeled adult (hard to create a family-friendly game with fingering of the female genitalia). Of course in the future, it will be way more physical, but rushing it (and adding side characters/events solely to force the game to have sex) is imo not necessary and a 'trap' many new devs fall into (I must add sex or my game will fail!).
And by the playerbase, this has received so far, and the people that like it means there is a market for games such as these. Games that can thrive without using the usual tropes such as early side characters to simply have sex with or events for the sole purpose of getting sexual stuff out there as fast as possible. (In fact, many people tend to skip start sex scenes as they have yet to develop any relationship with early side characters)
So about your last part about fixing/improved. No, I do not think it needs fixing as all of these elements were meant to be as such. Improved however is something that is always a priority.
But does all of these things mean you are wrong and I am right? Absolutely not. It simply shows that you have some preferences and views that are yours. And hence I don't want you to change your review or anything like that as it is a perfect reflection of what you think this game is and same-minded people like you will read it and can have a better understand or in other cases save some time altogether.
The main thing to take is that we should be careful to confuse preference as fact. Or preferences as 'this is how it is supposed to be'. Everyone is different and everyone have different needs. There are genres and style for everyone. The slow build-up to instant gratifications. Both are adult games. Just with different approaches.
Hope I explained myself better this time around, heh.
TD:LR nothing is wrong with your view nor your review. And a game is still an adult game even if it's only a bit of groping, nudity and finger play at the start.
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Great game hopes . and good figth scene imagen possible better than the rest battle of game.
80% here like the history. And lvl up spice in each update. The half of dead game have porn fest and remake or make other game for milking patron . HopesGaming. No its milking patreon .
This its 0.00.41 its new game.
Firts this game have music .the 15 % of games in this page have music.
Second . the history its great. And the 80 % of player of hopes like the hype of this history.
3 this its not cheap fuckfest w/o good argumentation. This game make better you like the spices scene in nexts updates.
4. This play its for expert. In all area. This game have 4. 75 start ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 3/4.
All area have connection . if you are the player like fuckfest. In early play other game.
This its exquisite game the same like the older wine in the collection of uncle Wilfred.
If you like play fast play dead game or milking game. Good bye and have good day guys.
80% here like the history. And lvl up spice in each update. The half of dead game have porn fest and remake or make other game for milking patron . HopesGaming. No its milking patreon .
This its 0.00.41 its new game.
Firts this game have music .the 15 % of games in this page have music.
Second . the history its great. And the 80 % of player of hopes like the hype of this history.
3 this its not cheap fuckfest w/o good argumentation. This game make better you like the spices scene in nexts updates.
4. This play its for expert. In all area. This game have 4. 75 start ⭐⭐⭐⭐ 3/4.
All area have connection . if you are the player like fuckfest. In early play other game.
This its exquisite game the same like the older wine in the collection of uncle Wilfred.
If you like play fast play dead game or milking game. Good bye and have good day guys.