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spooge_nugget

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*facepalm* *sigh*

I apologize for assuming you could actually use the search function after suggesting you do that. It comes so naturally for so many of us what to search for when we know what we want to know. In your case, you wanted to know these things:

1. why the game took so long? will every update take that long and have only as much content?

2. what's new in this update?

So a simple search with the key word "update" should return you with plenty of information simply by glancing at the result. Then a search with the keyword "update" specifying posts by HopesGaming, which is the username of the dev should narrow it down even more to important posts about updates. Or a search specifying posts by HopesGaming without any keyword will give you a general idea about what's been going on since he's very active and friendly toward the fanbase. I just did just those simple searches, and all the important and core information, and pretty much everything you asked for are in the results.

As for your question about what's in this update. I did see it. I chose not to answer because, as stated above, the answers are pretty clear in the search results, as well as the fact that your question is so vague that a short answer will unlikely satisfy you while a long one will take forever to write, not to mention spoil everything. The changelog is probably the best answer anyone can give, and you've already made it clear you're dissatisfied with that.

P.S.: Funny you should say I should get off my high horse, because my attitude is usually a mirror reflection of the attitude gave off by the post I'm replying to. So I seem extremely friendly to some, while to some others... :p
I shouldn't really need to be searching through a thread for information that should essentially be in the first post in the change-log. More detailed information on the update really should be within the change-log, as "6 new Isabel events (varies in length)" could literally mean anything. I'm sure you've also seen what some devs try to pass off as an update (far too few have decent sized updates and some are just pitiful).

The reason I didn't use the search was that I honestly couldn't think about what to search for. The difference between us is that you seem to have been following developments (at least to an certain extent), so you have more of an idea as to what has actually been discussed and as such, what to actually search for. There are always going to be repeat questions and statements in threads (that will never change) and the best thing to do is just answer or direct to a post that gives the answer (it's slightly different when the question is literally answered on the same page and sometimes just one or two posts above).

The frequency of updates going forward is also important, as if it is to take a few months per update, then it may not be worth me playing each update and instead better to wait for a few to pile up or for the finished product and start a fresh play-through at that point so that the full story is fresh in my mind at that time (I'm one of those people that read every word and don't just skip to "fun" parts).

You choosing not to answer that question just goes to show what your intention was with your reply to my post. I don't really see how the question was vague. If you've played through the new content, then you should have a rough idea of how long it took you to get through it, which would be a good gauge as to how much content there is in the update (it doesn't need to be accurate to the second or even minute, just a ballpark figure).

It's probably best if we both take a step down, as I think we were both probably a bit over the top with our replies.
 
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spooge_nugget

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I don't know why it's a disappointment to focus on a character that hasn't gotten content for a while.
This may come across as a bit of a cheap shot, but no character had gotten content for a while. That's why it's a bit of a disappointment seeing that only one character was focused on. It just would have been nice to have a little bit for everyone after the long absence, even if the main focus was on this character.

I am not a fan of render amounts. You don't get any real value out of it. Some games can have 1000's of renders but those mostly consist of renders from animations or several hundred of the same renders just with spot rendering (changing expressions etc.) Too many factors that play into it that make no sense for it.
That's a fair point. Lines of dialog then maybe? Or better yet, a rough estimate of how much time it would take to complete the content of the update (without skipping text).

Please don't do that. I hate (and I'm sure most people as well) when people try to make their own opinion as fact and using other people to validate their opinion without any evidence of such.
But to answer, HELL NAW! Music is a big thing in the game. Reading the comments and reviews clearly shows you are wrong about most people muting the game. The whole game is built around the music. You don't watch a movie and then turn it all down and just watch with subtitles. You only do that for porn movies. And if you think this is a porn game. Then music or no music- you'll be disappointed.
I will concede that using the word "most" was foolish. I should have used "many".
At the end of the day this is a work in progress and not a finished product and I would personally class the addition of music as more of a finishing touch. This isn't a movie, but the music in movies is added in post-production and people don't generally watch a movie while it's being developed and instead watch the finished product.
I'm far more interested in the actual story (I'm in the actually reads the story faction) and the overall progression of the VN/game, which is why I personally would rather see resources and focus applied to that area, as it could mean more frequent and/or larger updates.
I also don't think that necessarily proves me wrong about most people muting the music, as those that do wouldn't generally mention it (they'd just mute it and forget about it) and there are others that just don't post, whereas those that do like the music are far more likely to say so. If foregoing the music were to directly lead to more frequent and/or larger updates (e.g. if you're paying for the music and that money would be able to hire somebody that would lead to increased productivity) then I feel that people would prefer that option if given the choice.

About your last question;
I have made several comments and patreon posts about the situation regarding the time of the updates.
Nothing wrong with a bit of complaining. When devs deserve a complain they should be complained towards.
But that requires for the complainer to at least use the search function a bit and read about the situation before writing something.
True, but complaining can often be done impulsively and only thought through in hindsight.
 
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RandyPhoenix

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HopesGaming If this game is another game I dont bother pressing that button but in this game I'm afraid for future events with other girls. Espacily with Luna... This will be pain in my ass in future right? And as far I know we cant get harem route in this game to?

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If this game is another game I dont bother pressing that button but in this game I'm afraid for future events with other girls. Espacily with Luna... This will be pain in my ass in future right? And as far I know we cant get harem route in this game to?

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maybe this will help.
* I do not regret it. (give in to a moment of weakness) *

* I regret it. ( though shalt never betray The Goddess) *
 

c3p0

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HopesGaming If this game is another game I dont bother pressing that button but in this game I'm afraid for future events with other girls. Espacily with Luna... This will be pain in my ass in future right? And as far I know we cant get harem route in this game to?

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Simple: Save here, so you shall have a save later if things doesn't work out the way you had wished for. This generally means either be killed by Antonio, Luna, Gracie, Wilfred, Cordia or Gottarda with his flail.

HopesGaming:
Good update. The infamous trio made me laught and the scene with Gracie made me rethink with which one should I be more concerned. But even then Wilfred is perhaps the one that is hidding the most of all the (crazy) Delucas familiy here.
And the music add to the atmosphere. So I don't concur with this many others;)

Hope we can have the dragons in our next update.:D
 
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Hello,

first: sorry for my bad english.

Up to V0.05 most of all text was in german (Menu Language - German). In V 0.06 is the Button "german" not to see and all Text is in english.

Is there a Hotfix or an Language-File to download?

BTW: this Game ist my favorit Game and i am waiting for new Content.

Ana
 
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Simple: Save here, so you shall have a save later if things doesn't work out you had wished for. This generally means either be killed by Antonio, Luna, Gracie, Wilfred, Cordia or Gottarda with his flail.

HopesGaming:
Good update. The infamous trio made me laught and the scene with Gracie made me rethink with which one should I be more concerned. But even then Wilfred is perhaps the one that is hidding the most of all the (crazy) Delucas familiy here.
And the music add to the atmosphere. So I don't concur with this many others;)

Hope we can have the dragons in our next update.:D
You forgot about Joey's beard.
 

RandyPhoenix

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Thanks for update Hopes. But I need say that like everyone dont get me wrong i love this game and your storytelling. But that wasnt 6 month update. We wait this update half year and that's not worth it. Thanks for update anyway. I hope you would make more updates like last time.
 

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Thanks for update Hopes. But I need say that like everyone dont get me wrong i love this game and your storytelling. But that wasnt 6 month update. We wait this update half year and that's not worth it. Thanks for update anyway. I hope you would make more updates like last time.
As for many people, do not mix up 6 months wait and 6 months work.
 
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Hi i got stuck AGAIN so for the mission the cave it says nooon/afternoon bedroom where is that?
i tryed all rooms got i cant continue the cave.png
 
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I dont have much words to say, other than this latest update was absolutely phenomenal. It had been a long time since Isabel had any development to her character and storyline so my interest in her dipped drastically and I was unsure if I would be able to resonant with that character again. However, never have I been more glad to be wrong. Hopes really did a great job, the renders, animations even right down to the music choices were so on point and the writing was so good. I could honestly feel what she was feeling throughout this update. It was truly great to have more Isabel.
Anyway, that's enough simping from me for one day. Thanks Hopes for the amazing update
 

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[...]
The difference between us is that you seem to have been following developments (at least to an certain extent), so you have more of an idea as to what has actually been discussed and as such, what to actually search for.
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Actually, the difference between us is, when I saw the thread hasn't been updated for a long time, the first question that popped into my head was "did anything happen to the dev that it took him so long to update?", and not jumping immediately to the conclusion that the 6 months wait is equal to 6 months work. So I went and search the thread for clues to that first and not asking what you did.

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(I'm one of those people that read every word and don't just skip to "fun" parts)

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If you've played through the new content, then you should have a rough idea of how long it took you to get through it, which would be a good gauge as to how much content there is in the update (it doesn't need to be accurate to the second or even minute, just a ballpark figure).
You pretty much just answered your own question. Not everyone plays the same way. For some people, the new content took only 10 minutes. For some people, it took a few hours. For some of those like myself, who want to get all the enjoyment out of it, as well as taking notes in term of storytelling, it took like 8 hours+. So your question is vague because you didn't give any relevant information as to how you play, or what you're actually looking for in a given game update.

It's probably best if we both take a step down, as I think we were both probably a bit over the top with our replies.
Like I said, my attitude is always a mirror reflection of the post I'm replying to. So I agree

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I will concede that using the word "most" was foolish. I should have used "many".
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This brought me back to the point I originally made, though. You made a generalization AND an assumption, not just for yourself, but for "most", or even "many", of the fanbase, without doing any research to see if that claim held any truth to it. If you just said, "I feel xyz", that's fine, everyone is entitled to have their own opinions. But you kept assuming that there are many people who feel the same as you do, even now, while a quick search of the thread shows differently.
 
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SumTingWong0420

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Luna's storyline is boring and cringy

I am only one who find luna's storyline cringy ?

Other than that rest characters are very good and storyline is also exciting

Isabel , Cordia & Gracie :love:
Be careful friend, you tread on sacred ground, now the Godesses' Army slumbers, but the faint steps of trespassing interlopers tend to stroke the psyche of the sleeping beast.

Kidding, but seriously fans who adore Luna = like 90% of us, you don't have to like her, we don't want to share anyway =P
 
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