Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[Cartageno]

HornyyPussy I know you were kidding in DeLuca, I just couldn't think of a nice answer

 

[HornyyPussy]

HornyyPussy I know you were kidding in DeLuca, I just couldn't think of a nice answer

I wasn't expecting a nice answer

 

[whichone]

I have a feeling Mysterious 6 is a more powerful organization than the DeLuca Family too. Because they were able to keep Cordia from finding Luna for several months. Not only that, but they also managed to nab Lucan as well. Just comes to show the Mysterious 6 is likely more powerful and has more resource at their disposal than DeLucas.

Yeah, clearly they have resources.
Access to man-power & properties are displayed in Luna's backstory.
But, it could just be that because there are only 6 of them, unknown members, they're harder to find.
Easy to see the big organisation in the spotlight.
Not so easy to see 6 random people, moving in the shadows.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

So lets continue to speculate

Blackie in the promotion event does mention Cordia will become MC's "mother" when the MC swears the Omerta, and I guess that is basically said to all new soldiers.

But whereas for everyone else, I think Cordia acts as a mother due to a sense of obligation & responsibility, I think she truly feels motherly love and compassion for MC's case. And that I believe will become something greater over time.

Cordia can have motherly intentions/feelings for her whole household but not for MC. Why a moter kiss her son from lips?
I think Cordia was in love with MCs father or maybe engaged but MCs father decided to cheat her or maybe even orchestrated a coup aganist Cordia. We know serpents betrayed her, MCs family done or about do something but to the family since MC is hostage for this situation and yet Cordia keps MCs mother at the serpents photo. So I am assuming MCs father was a serpent to, burned person in the photo is MCs father and orchestrated a coup aganist Cordia. MCs mother couldnt betrayed both her friend and her love so she decided leave both of them.

I have a feeling Mysterious 6 is a more powerful organization than the DeLuca Family too. Because they were able to keep Cordia from finding Luna for several months (enough for Cordia to go on warpath with all the families, risking breaking alliance with basically everyone). Not only that, but they also managed to nab Lucan as well. Just comes to show the Mysterious 6 is likely more powerful and has more resource at their disposal than DeLucas.

I'm just guessing here, but I think all the allies DeLucas have are more of smaller or medium sized families. The rest of the Big 5 Crime Families (which of course excludes the DeLucas), I think may just dislike the DeLuca Family in general (to varying degrees. Perhaps these other Dons are jealous of the DeLucas notoriety & fame, or perhaps there is greed for territories coming into play. Or even some hidden vendetta between some of these familes history).

With Pacifitoris, they seem to serve as people giving out the rules of conduct for these families, but I do wonder if they would even be effective if all the families are plunged into war.
I mean for example, if all 4 major Crime families decide to put any differences they have aside and ally with each other to attack the DeLucas, would the Pacifitori organization even be able to do anything about it?
They would either need some major firepower or tremendous attack force to keep any Families who gets out of control back in line.
That being said, if the organization existed for a long time, i.e. even back when child Luna was kidnapped by the Mysterious 6, were they even effective when Cordia was on rampage warpath against the other families desperately searching for Luna? Hmmmm

Mysterious 6 managed to hide from state too (which state we dont know yet ) despite kidnaping important peoples children, they are definetely more powerful than DeLucas. As their allies, you can be right or wrong, no big family entered the game so far, we cant know. If the remaining of the 5 families are same ones who Cordia fought at the big war than your assumption is correct. If remaining of the 5 families were Cordias allies at the big war nad they become big 5 after the war than probably they wouldnt attack DeLuca, because we know DeLucas are the most notorious one, so we can assume DeLuca is the most powerful.

As I understand Pacifitoris is an enforcer of the rules. If they can make rules like "established families cannot be wiped out" they must be old, I assume even if they are new, they must have been esablished after the big war latest. If they were new how could they create rules like that?

I think Pacifitoris must have enough power to enforce rules but not necessarily firepower. For example, they can have influence to control politicians/law enforcements etc to check families in line, they can control essential element like transportation means like docks, customs etc. Lets not forget that they have documents about everything in the crime world. Remember, when library burned Wilfred said something like "We requested new copies from pacifitoris, they will be here soon." If they documented everything and everyone in the crime world they can wipe out whole families without firing a single bullet. If thats not a power than what is power?

We know Luna beaten up deadly and left in the DeLucas doorstep at approximately when Cordia nearly entered several wars. If that not a coincident we may think 3 possibilities;
1 - Pacifitoris found out Mysterious 6 and made them release Luna but never revealed their identity for their own agendas
2 - Pacifitoris was knew who are Mysterious 6 and because they have profit from it they didnt act or inform anybody about them. They just turn their back to whole thing as long as they can to maximize their profit from this situation.
3 - Pacifitoris is tied/controlling Mysterious 6 to enlarge their reach/influence hence they helped Mysterious 6 remain mysterious.

Sorry for the long post, I couldnt keep it shorter

 

[Lord Verminaard]

Yeah, clearly they have resources.
Access to man-power & properties are displayed in Luna's backstory.
But, it could just be that because there are only 6 of them, unknown members, they're harder to find.
Easy to see the big organisation in the spotlight.
Not so easy to see 6 random people, moving in the shadows.

Maybe but I dont think this is the situation. I mean we saw their lab at "My name is Luna" mission, first creating a lab/complex or whatever like that, second kidnap some families children and hold them for long time (Luna was the latest arrival so assuming she is the one shortest one spend time there other girls could have been there for a year maybe). Disposes whole dead animals and children, after that dumping Luna to DeLucas doorstep without getting caught. Thats a bit to much for just 6 person in my opinion.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

I agree.

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Guys about the photo


View attachment 1080864

- According to you, my thought, but could the person who hates MC also be Rina's ex boyfriend ?!
what do you think, could it be?

- Maybe that burned person is MC's father and Cordia's ex-boyfriend ... then he took Rina



To keep in mind, there is the scene of Serpent telling the MC that he should go and see his mother because she is not well and to be "careful", who knows what's underneath. ....

I am repeating myself (literally just copy-paste ) here, if you read my answer to JJJ84, than you dont need to read this to;

I think Cordia was in love with MCs father or maybe engaged but MCs father decided to cheat her or maybe even orchestrated a coup aganist Cordia. We know serpents betrayed her, MCs family done or about do something but to the family since MC is hostage for this situation and yet Cordia keps MCs mother at the serpents photo. So I am assuming MCs father was a serpent to, burned person in the photo is MCs father and orchestrated a coup aganist Cordia. MCs mother couldnt betrayed both her friend and her love so she decided leave both of them.

 

[JJJ84]

I mean, she is the "godmother". But it is clear that she treats MC totally different from the beginning. Why, we don't know. But the rest of the soldados do not live in the main house, spend time with the Deluca princesses, eat with them and gets to the point that even MC wonders if Cordia could be his real mother, after his real mother has treated him as garbage his whole life.

Probably a lot of overlapping feelings would come into play in terms of Cordia's feelings towards the MC.

- If Cordia and MC's father were ex-lovers (before MC's father was with Rina), then it could be the fact that she sees a view of MC's father when he was young (since even "Serpent" says to MC when they first meet "you look like your father).
Cordia's current feelings towards MC's father is not known, but it could be a simultaneous love & hate relationship.
But even should she hate MC's father, Cordia knows that MC is not at fault for any sins of his father, so perhaps that's why she treats MC different from others, despite under contract.

- Also MC's inherited a lot of his mother's facial features as well, so on the other hand, it could also be Cordia's continuous friendship towards Rina even to this day (though I'm not sure Rina feels the same way. It could possibly be that she hates Cordia) that comes into play as well.

- As you said, Rina really didn't treat MC well growing up, and with Cordia keeping tabs on Rina and MC's status, her compassionate side really came into effect, seeing MC looking down in her office nightie event (she showed some of this side to Isabel as well, when she first came into the Family, as Isabel reveals in her event with MC)

- But perhaps the biggest reason would be MC's personality and attitude towards life. The first question she asks him in her office in the introduction was "What is your ambition?" and MC's answer was (if I'm remembering it correctly) "To be happy."
It wasn't any loft ambition such as "I want to be rich and famous." or "I want to be powerful." the pitfall that his father has (as mentioned by "Serpent", MC's father's ambition basically burnt anyone who got in the way with his ambition or something along those lines).
Probably had MC said something like "My ambition is to be rich." He would have been sent to live with the Soldados like Cordia and Wilfred originally planned. But that all changed with MC's I guess somewhat "innocent" answer, which brought a slight smile to Cordia with her response "That's a good ambition."

Also, following is just my interpretation of it, but with Cordia being impressed with MC's answer to her question in their introduction, I think what she perhaps desired by having MC there as part of the Family is to have a semblance of normalcy living "Happy" lives as MC's ambition; not just for the girls (who each have their own issues, which MC begins to solve one by one, but for Cordia herself as well (perhaps she wants that innocence to rub off on the Family, even in a Family whose daily lives involve acts of violence among others).
I mean, yes she is plagued by guilt (as Wilfred says to MC), for things that the Family went through but sometimes one desires something even without realizing it themselves.

 

[Saipan]

I am repeating myself (literally just copy-paste ) here, if you read my answer to JJJ84, than you dont need to read this to;

I think Cordia was in love with MCs father or maybe engaged but MCs father decided to cheat her or maybe even orchestrated a coup aganist Cordia. We know serpents betrayed her, MCs family done or about do something but to the family since MC is hostage for this situation and yet Cordia keps MCs mother at the serpents photo. So I am assuming MCs father was a serpent to, burned person in the photo is MCs father and orchestrated a coup aganist Cordia. MCs mother couldnt betrayed both her friend and her love so she decided leave both of them.

Mmm maybe I didn't notice. Thanks for the reply
I am of the opinion that also Rina's ex has something to do, surely there will have been some quarrel with the father of the MC ... who knows

 

[JJJ84]

I agree.

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Guys about the photo


View attachment 1080864

- According to you, my thought, but could the person who hates MC also be Rina's ex boyfriend ?!
what do you think, could it be?

- Maybe that burned person is MC's father and Cordia's ex-boyfriend ... then he took Rina



To keep in mind, there is the scene of Serpent telling the MC that he should go and see his mother because she is not well and to be "careful", who knows what's underneath. ....

Probably a lot of people will think the same, but with that photo, my guess is

From the Left:

- Young Rina (MC's mom)
- Rina's ex-fiance (current "Serpent")
- Young Cordia
- MC's father at young age (face burned in the photo)

Cordia already confirmed to MC (in the office nightie scene) that guy next to Rina is her ex-fiance but not MC's father.
And I don't think hate is really the word I would use to describe how "Serpent" feels about MC.
It just seems to be way more complex than that.

And the moment of anger he showed towards MC, it's more like he bears resentment towards MC's father than MC himself.

 

[Saipan]

Probably a lot of people will think the same, but with that photo, my guess is

From the Left:

- Young Rina (MC's mom)
- Rina's ex-fiance (current "Serpent")
- Young Cordia
- MC's father at young age (face burned in the photo)

Cordia already confirmed to MC (in the office nightie scene) that guy next to Rina is her ex-fiance but not MC's father.
And I don't think hate is really the word I would use to describe how "Serpent" feels about MC.
It just seems to be way more complex than that.

And the moment of anger he showed towards MC, it's more like he bears resentment towards MC's father than MC himself.

The Serpent hypothesis could be feasible. also because he has shown himself thoughtful to indicate to MC to go and see his mother who is not well ..

 

[Lord Verminaard]

Mmm maybe I didn't notice. Thanks for the reply
I am of the opinion that also Rina's ex has something to do, surely there will have been some quarrel with the father of the MC ... who knows

Oh, I think I made a slight mistake, " literally just copy-paste " part was not mockery or something, I am sorry if it seemed like one. I wrote an answer for JJJ84 after your question, just 2 post before of answer my answer to you. I thought if you would read all messages in order, you must read same thing twice and I added copy-paste information.

 

[Saipan]

Oh, I think I made a slight mistake, " literally just copy-paste " part was not mockery or something, I am sorry if it seemed like one. I wrote an answer for JJJ84 after your question, just 2 post before of answer my answer to you. I thought if you would read all messages in order, you must read same thing twice and I added copy-paste information.

do not worry it's not a problem it was my carelessness, I still have some problems with certain words in English (I don't chew it well), I certainly read quickly and didn't think.
Indeed I hope I have written well in English and that you understand me

 

[jaw1986baby]

I mean, I don't want to rush Hopes, exactly but the time taken is stretching on long enough that we are getting like 100 pages of fanfic hypotheses pontificating on things that have or may not have transpired thus far.

Truly some superfans here but it makes it hard to stay current to the thread LOL

And the obnoxious trolls certainly do not help with vast swaths getting added and deleted all the time.

But I for one submit I am indeed sexy and hot even if not a main character on this thread, not to anyone in particular

 

[TundraLupus]

I mean, I don't want to rush Hopes, exactly but the time taken is stretching on long enough that we are getting like 100 pages of fanfic hypotheses pontificating on things that have or may not have transpired thus far.

Truly some superfans here but it makes it hard to stay current to the thread LOL

And the obnoxious trolls certainly do not help with vast swaths getting added and deleted all the time.

But I for one submit I am indeed sexy and hot even if not a main character on this thread, not to anyone in particular

I participated for a minute in the fanfic but then I went to do something for half an hour and just got too lost to jump back in.

 

[JJJ84]

I mean, I don't want to rush Hopes, exactly but the time taken is stretching on long enough that we are getting like 100 pages of fanfic hypotheses pontificating on things that have or may not have transpired thus far.

Truly some superfans here but it makes it hard to stay current to the thread LOL

And the obnoxious trolls certainly do not help with vast swaths getting added and deleted all the time.

But I for one submit I am indeed sexy and hot even if not a main character on this thread, not to anyone in particular

Well, it can't really be helped, since basically a major part of the gameplay went through a complete overhaul.
But luckily Hopes did give us a confirmation that the update is 100% coming this month, and after that future updates will normally be shorter, and quicker (so less wait time obviously), though sometimes that may not be the case depending on the story.

 

[whichone]

Maybe but I dont think this is the situation. I mean we saw their lab at "My name is Luna" mission, first creating a lab/complex or whatever like that, second kidnap some families children and hold them for long time (Luna was the latest arrival so assuming she is the one shortest one spend time there other girls could have been there for a year maybe). Disposes whole dead animals and children, after that dumping Luna to DeLucas doorstep without getting caught. Thats a bit to much for just 6 person in my opinion.

2nd line of my post: "access to man-power" explains that.
Didn't say just 6 people worked in the scheme. We know that's not the case, as we saw at least 2 employees supervising Luna.
The people doing all the work don't need to know about The Mysterious 6.
They wouldn't be much of a mystery if everyone who did work for them knew about them.
Think of them as the silent partners in a company. The ones behind the scenes.
Properties where Luna was held in a cage looked residential. Easy for a shell company to own these.
Same for a laboratory. Shell company owns/rents it & employs the people.
Mysterious 6 remain unknown, pulling the strings while hidden behind a string of shell companies.

Any one of the shells can be noticed. The Mysterious 6 never are. Hence it's easy to see a big organisation in the spotlight, but it's hard to see 6 people, each moving in isolation in the shadows.

 

[piwnzor]

I still haven't unlocked the cave and i finished story..how to unlock it?

 

[whichone]

I still haven't unlocked the cave and i finished story..how to unlock it?

Guide in OP gives instructions. You need to wait for Luna to visit you.

 

[JJJ84]

Is this the right thread for your question?
I don't know what cave you're hoping to unlock?

Probably referring to "date" with Luna,

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My guess is he's asking how to start that event for Luna.

 

[whichone]

Probably referring to "date" with Luna,

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My guess is he's asking how to start that event for Luna.

Ah, so it is.
Doesn't that trigger automatically? IIRC we had to wait some time.