Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[whichone]

He will definetely reappear, I cant even imagine Hopes re-creates intro for three new characters just to dump those afterwards. I think Dominico will be a rival or maybe even a nemesis to MC some part. Even uncle can try to solve hostility between them in the future.

Agreed. Quite intrigued by the prospect.

They are all jewels, that for sure. I love them all But for me, Luna is more precious than others. I dont know, it is because of "My name is Luna" mission or her romance story was really a natural one but I am attracted her more than others. Of course that could change in the progression of story.

I love Isabel, adore her, in Fly, White Bird, Fly!
Gracie I fall in love with, every time I'm with her.
Cordia, well she's irresistible. Again, every time I'm with her, I'm
Luna we all fell head over heels with, during The Cave. Then the pledge made to her, with the Russian roulette, then top it off with My Name Is Luna (as you say) & it's easy to see why she's a favourite.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

with the Russian roulette

I think one of the most impressive parts was this in her storyline. While she pulls trigger to herself, there was a bullet in the chamber. She was literally playing with her own life. But while giving the gun to MC, she take that bullet and gave MC an empty gun. She simply couldnt put him to risk.

Of course one might argue about that oath was pointless and I cant decide that either. But knowing that, for Luna it is important enough to play with her own life, "Luna loves MC more than her own life at that point" is a logical conclusion. Even Wilfred noticed it and fprbid Luna from going "Burn the umbras" contract.

 

[whichone]

I think one of the most impressive parts was this in her storyline. While she pulls trigger to herself, there was a bullet in the chamber. She was literally playing with her own life. But while giving the gun to MC, she take that bullet and gave MC an empty gun. She simply couldnt put him to risk.

Of course one might argue about that oath was pointless and I cant decide that either. But knowing that, for Luna it is important enough to play with her own life, "Luna loves MC more than her own life at that point" is a logical conclusion. Even Wilfred noticed it and fprbid Luna from going "Burn the umbras" contract.

I don't agree with the argument that the oath is pointless.
It's not.
The MC didn't know that there was no bullet. So for him/us, the risk was 100% real and we still took it.
That makes the oath genuine & taken in good faith, by us.
For her, she had the bullet. So clearly genuine & taken in good faith, by her.

Us taking the oath, fully believing that we could die, proved our commitment to her, unquestionably.
The fact that the risk wasn't real doesn't diminish what we did, because it was real to us.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

I don't agree with the argument that the oath is pointless.
It's not.
The MC didn't know that there was no bullet. So for him/us, the risk was 100% real and we still took it.
That makes the oath genuine & taken in good faith, by us.
For her, she had the bullet. So clearly genuine & taken in good faith, by her.

Us taking the oath, fully believing that we could die, proved our commitment to her, unquestionably.
The fact that the risk wasn't real doesn't diminish what we did, because it was real to us.

I agree, she dont trust even Cordia and Wilfred enough to include them her search of Mysterious six, how can she trust a guy kept hostage by her family? Of course she put MC to a test.

I added "I cant decide" part to avoid "that was not necessary" discussions

 

[whichone]

I agree, she dont trust even Cordia and Wilfred enough to include her search of Mysterious six, how can she trust a guy kept hostage by her family? Of course she put MC to a test.

I added "I cant decide" part to avoid "that was not necessary" discussions

What we were saying before, about favourite girls, made me think.
The writing is pretty clever here.
Luna is strong, fearless and indomitable, yet we kind of need to protect her and shield her from harm.
Gracie is super-intelligent, yet we kind of need to teach her.

MC is not stronger or more fearless (or more skilled!) than Luna, yet still most people feel this way - protective.
MC is nowhere near as smart as Gracie, yet we're teaching her about stuff we do know more about - people/intimacy.
It's a bit of a role reversal, for each.
It's also quite a nice psychological touch, hugely potent in a seemingly impotent scenario.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

What we were saying before, about favourite girls, made me think.
The writing is pretty clever here.
Luna is strong, fearless and indomitable, yet we kind of need to protect her and shield her from harm.
Gracie is super-intelligent, yet we kind of need to teach her.

MC is not stronger or more fearless (or more skilled!) than Luna, yet still most people feel this way - protective.
MC is nowhere near as smart as Gracie, yet we're teaching her about stuff we do know more about - people/intimacy.
It's a bit of a role reversal, for each.
It's also quite a nice psychological touch, hugely potent in a seemingly impotent scenario.

I always thought these points as "Shell is most brittle where it seems stronger" type of thing, never think that deeply I always thought people always tend to neglect their strengths because they think they are strong at that point and try to reinforce weaker points.

 

[whichone]

I always thought these points as "Shell is most brittle where it seems stronger" type of thing, never think that deeply I always thought people always tend to neglect their strengths because they think they are strong at that point andtry to reinforce weaker points.

You see what I mean, about being made to feel potent in scenarios where we should really, by all rights, be relatively impotent?

It's definitely their Achilles' heel.
Gracie is super smart in everything except this. This is actually something she has no knowledge of.
To teach her of anything else, we would be impotent. But, for this one thing, we need to teach her. We are potent.
Luna is super kick ass, but she's damaged. Underneath the hard shell, there's a small girl, trapped in a cage, suffering.
To protect her from anything else, we would be impotent. But, for this one thing, we need to protect her. We are potent.

 

[WhiteyG]

Because they have one of the original Serpents as head.
Plus 4 (maybe?) new ones.
Serpents > Capos.

Anyway, tbf, kicking off with each other, when there are no enemies around, is fine.
When enemies come, they're all fighting together.
Imagine facing that ensemble of lunatics?

lol I admit to going through the warehouse a couple of times - I wanted the screenshot of Luna's "Die, die, die, die!!!"

I'd bet High Five Guy is an original and current Serpent. Gottardo and The Priest are the other two known Serpents correct? Still waiting to see the fourth. The Priest just seemed strange in this update don't know what to make of him yet. Doesn't really command any respect. Gottardo is definitely the favorite of the known Serpents. Hopes needs to get Gottardo and Joey linked up. Joey working underneath Gottardo's supervision or something. They are great together. I need to see a scene with those 2 and Wilfred with Wilfred just pulling his hair out.

I think a healthy mind cant get over with constant killing or being under risk of dying constantly so every one of them snap at some point. Like soldiers traumas when they return from war/conflict etc. These people live in this situation like always. Of course in the game it is overly exagrated and made more humorous but there is some glimpse of truth.

Anyway, when Biondo and Gray becomes capos, word deranged in this sentence will earn a new meaning I guess. They look like absolute morons for now.

I'm not sure of course most of the people in this game are a little bit off that's what makes most of them so endearing. But I kind of think the DeLucas just bring in some fucked up people maybe it's Cordia or Wilfred who has reasons in recruiting those type of people. Biondo and Gray just need to be passed over for promotion. Who could trust them to run anything?

 

[whichone]

I'd bet High Five Guy is an original and current Serpent. Gottardo and The Priest are the other two known Serpents correct? Still waiting to see the fourth. The Priest just seemed strange in this update don't know what to make of him yet. Doesn't really command any respect. Gottardo is definitely the favorite of the known Serpents. Hopes needs to get Gottardo and Joey linked up. Joey working underneath Gottardo's supervision or something. They are great together. I need to see a scene with those 2 and Wilfred with Wilfred just pulling his hair out.

Yeah, that's a reasonably widespread suspicion atm, with High Five Guy.
IDK, he seems younger than Cordia, but without seeing his face, who knows?
Then, he's connected to Eiza, somehow. Presumably that would put him at roughly the right age. So many possibilities, for him.

Yeah, I questioned when The Priest was (I think?) spoken to disrespectfully by lower ranked members, "This guy, a Serpent??"
I was expecting the sisters to be his immediate subordinates, but they didn't seem too interested in him.
He certainly didn't command respect from anyone in the room, like High Five Guy, or Gottardo.

Gottardo and Joey are fucking absolute comedy gold, they truly are. I swear, when the freezer room plan was in operation, those 2 had me fucking crying!

 

[zoe_meat]

zoe_meat

Added the three items to your inventory.

Hope you just made a grown man cry thank you.

 

[WhiteyG]

Gottardo and Joey are fucking absolute comedy gold, they truly are. I swear, when the freezer room plan was in operation, those 2 had me fucking crying!

Yeah I loved this part

 

[whichone]

Yeah I loved this part

Ah man, I swear, those 2 will be the death of me!
It's when they're both laughing that really gets me, for some reason, like they're both egging each other on.
Bwahahahah
Ha hahahah
BWAHHAHAHAHAAAHA!!

 

[WhiteyG]

It's when they're both laughing that really gets me.
Bwahahahah
Ha hahahah
BWAHHAHAHAHAAAHA!!

I half expected Luna to turn and shoot them both in the foot.
I know I would've been tempted.

 

[whichone]

I half expected Luna to turn and shoot them both in the foot.
I know I would've been tempted.

I have a gun, but no ice cream. What did you expect me to do, other than shoot you in the foot?

 

[Lord Verminaard]

You see what I mean, about being made to feel potent in scenarios where we should really, by all rights, be relatively impotent?

It's definitely their Achilles' heel.
Gracie is super smart in everything except this. This is actually something she has no knowledge of.
To teach her of anything else, we would be impotent. But, for this one thing, we need to teach her. We are potent.
Luna is super kick ass, but she's damaged. Underneath the hard shell, there's a small girl, trapped in a cage, suffering.
To protect her from anything else, we would be impotent. But, for this one thing, we need to protect her. We are potent.

Yeah, after you put on a spotlight on it like that, it is hard not to see your point. Thats really good conclusion.

The Priest are the other two known Serpents correct?

Nope, priest is capo Known serpents are; Gottardo, Serpent and Cynthia. I dont think Cynthia or Gottardo would see same respect Serpent sees. While lower ranking members talking about Gottardo at the same mission they say his name. When it comes to the serpent, they call "Legend". Fourth serpent is still unknown to us but it seems The Serpent is whole other level even in comparison to other serpents.

But I kind of think the DeLucas just bring in some fucked up people maybe it's Cordia or Wilfred who has reasons in recruiting those type of people. Biondo and Gray just need to be passed over for promotion. Who could trust them to run anything?

Honestly I think they just bring people with high potential, without thinking about their weirdness. Just thinking about how restriction would decrease their efficiency, I think these weird, fucked up people are athe reason of their success. In addition, people tend to look down who they see weird.

Just assume, any one of Caterina, Amata, Amita, Serpent or Gottardo is real with all their talents, would you expect someone so weird is also so talented in their field? I dont think anyone will expect.

 

[whichone]

Just assume, any one of Caterina, Amata, Amita, Serpent or Gottardo is real with all their talents, would you expect someone so weird is also so talented in their field? I dont think anyone will expect.

Yes, I think some of them, like Caterina, get underestimated due to their quirks.
Chick on skates? WTF?
Whoosh, slash, whoosh, slash, slash, whoosh, slash, whoosh, slash, slash, whoosh.
gurgle, hghhhhhhhhhh.......
Hmph, I'll give you WTF.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

Yes, I think some of them, like Caterina, get underestimated due to their quirks.
Chick on skates? WTF?
Whoosh, slash, whoosh, slash, slash, whoosh, slash, whoosh, slash, slash, whoosh.
gurgle, hghhhhhhhhhh.......
Hmph, I'll give you WTF.

I think all of them get underestimated for their outfits. Aside from sniper rifle he carries, Serpent would look like a bad cowboy cosplay in real world and his outfit is the most reasonable one in this bunch. Of course in DeLuca universe, no one would even see The Serpent in the first place, so he cant been underestimated.

 

[WhiteyG]

Nope, priest is capo Known serpents are; Gottardo, Serpent and Cynthia. I dont think Cynthia or Gottardo would see same respect Serpent sees. While lower ranking members talking about Gottardo at the same mission they say his name. When it comes to the serpent, they call "Legend". Fourth serpent is still unknown to us but it seems The Serpent is whole other level even in comparison to other serpents.

99% certain you have that backwards. I know Cat is only a capo she is trying to get Onorina to sleep with the MC so he will join Caterina's crew. Serpents don't have crews. The Priest Battista is the 3rd Serpent although he doesn't seem like one. The two nuns that accompany him are both capo's and he is above them not that they give a shit.

 

[Lord Verminaard]

99% certain you have that backwards. I know Cat is only a capo she is trying to get Onorina to sleep with the MC so he will join Caterina's crew. Serpents don't have crews. The Priest Battista is the 3rd Serpent although he doesn't seem like one. The two nuns that accompany him are both capo's and he is above them not that they give a shit.

I am being trolled, am I not?

 

[WhiteyG]

I am being trolled, am I not?

Did you just facepalm me



And no I'm not fucking with you Caterina is a Capo! Apparently we need Hopes to make a DeLuca crime family tree.

Actually the more I think about it that would be a cool little feature. A nice tree to show where all the characters that have been introduced fit into the family.
Just an idea for you HopesGaming