Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[Mortarion]

With Gracie, I don't really remember her story being connected to "The Woods" within the game (so I'm guessing this is a theory?), but we've already gotten a small glimpse of how scary Gracie can be in the Blizzard Princess event.
And that was just a joke. Imagine if she was truly furious at someone.

I can't remember in which part of the story but it was mentioned, that Gracie was found in the woods after a certain event. This was an sensible topic for ther, [asume] something must be happened to her what has left traces on her mind and there was no way to get anything out of her according to this [/asume] maybe the mc can get it from her.

It could be totally mundane in that Gracie accidentally witnessed an execution in the woods and was traumatized by it (as an explanation of why Cordia doesn't want Gracie trained and sent on missions), but this is the DeLuca Family we're talking about. I expect there's something in Gracie's nature that was glimpsed at in the woods, something that has Cordia very worried.

That could be really possible, tbh in my headcanon i have somehow the kidnaping of Luna and the Graccie incident wired together. But this is not possible just because of the age of Gracie and that Cordia would never leave her our of her eye after Lunas kidnapping to get this somehow done.

 

[Ayhsel]

I hope the story of the woods is not as emotionally disturbing as "My Name is Luna," but somehow I think it will be.

With all the foreshadowing, I expect Gracie Unleashed will be scarier than Luna and Caterina combined.

I am actually hoping for more drama and psychological pain. A bit less gore but more, much more despair.

 

[Dragon59]

I can't remember in which part of the story but it was mentioned, that Gracie was found in the woods after a certain event. This was an sensible topic for ther, [asume] something must be happened to her what has left traces on her mind and there was no way to get anything out of her according to this [/asume] maybe the mc can get it from her.

Given the role of MC so far, the success he's had up until now with the healing of Luna (and Isabel), I expect that Cordia is hoping he can help Gracie as well. I expect she and Wilfred are depending upon it.

I am actually hoping for more drama and psychological pain. A bit less gore but more, much more despair.

I can see this.

If Gracie's journey is significantly more trivial than Luna's, it will be a cheat. We are meant to want to heal and protect BOTH of them equally (or nearly so). There has to be something dark and serious behind her bright and trivial facade...

 

[Mortarion]

I am actually hoping for more drama and psychological pain. A bit less gore but more, much more despair.

I hope this is not the case. I for myself can easy deal with heavy splatter and gore, but things that starts to brainfuck me easily lead to the fact that I could go out of my skin.

Do you now the movie Trainspotting? My ex-wife said the film was great and wanted to watch it with me about ten years ago. When we got to the scene where the junkies in a drug frenzy more or less let their baby starve or die of thirst, that was it for me with this film. Since our big daughter was about a year old at the time, I somehow drew parallels to it and saw the whole thing from the point of view of a father who imagined the torments a little person like that has to go through. I have never been able to watch this film again because I always associate it with this scene. After my divorce, I threw away the DVD, which I had only used once away without a second thought. Drama and psychological pain are powerful tools but they should not be overdone, otherwise the whole suffers from that one scene, as my example shows.

 

[Ayhsel]

If Gracie's journey is significantly more trivial than Luna's, it will be a cheat. We are meant to want to heal and protect BOTH of them equally (or nearly so). There has to be something dark and serious behind her bright and trivial facade...

While I am hoping for it, I am not expecting that kind of content. My name is Luna worked well partly because it is a very different mood than the rest of the novel. It breaks your expectations, even when told about it. Now that we know we have seen something like that, it is a harder effect to create.

Also, I don't want a rehash of Luna's story. I want something different for Gracie. I want despair and desperation, but in a different way.

I hope this is not the case. I for myself can easy deal with heavy splatter and gore, but things that starts to brainfuck me easily lead to the fact that I could go out of my skin.

Do you now the movie Trainspoting? My ex-wife said the film was great and wanted to watch it with me about ten years ago. When we got to the scene where the junkies in a drug frenzy more or less let their baby starve or die of thirst, that was it for me with this film. Since our big daughter was about a year old at the time, I somehow drew parallels to it and saw the whole thing from the point of view of a father who imagined the torments a little person like that has to go through. I have never been able to watch this film again because I always associate it with this scene. After my divorce, I threw away the DVD, which I had only used once away without a second thought. Drama and psychological pain are powerful tools but they should not be overdone, otherwise the whole suffers from that one scene, as my example shows.

Oh I understand your point. I have mentioned before that reading Angelic Howl chapter in The Fruit of Grisaia made me unable to eat meat for two weeks.

As I mentioned I want despair, but not gore. Beautiful despair, not gruesome content. The House in Fata Morgana's kind of despair. That really shatters your heart. Not so much Angelic howl, that keeps your gut shut.

 

[WhiteyG]

I am actually hoping for more drama and psychological pain. A bit less gore but more, much more despair.

Fuck you! I am still mentally scarred from My Name is Luna. I don't need something worse from Gracie. I sure it's going to be fucked up because Hopes seems to do fucked up really well. I thought it was Gracie and Luna in the woods but it was only Gracie that had done something out there that was disturbing.

 

[JJJ84]

I was referring to whatever happened in The Woods with Gracie that convinced Cordia to keep Gracie untrained.

I can't remember in which part of the story but it was mentioned, that Gracie was found in the woods after a certain event. This was an sensible topic for ther, [asume] something must be happened to her what has left traces on her mind and there was no way to get anything out of her according to this [/asume] maybe the mc can get it from her.

Huh, was kinda wondering why I couldn't remember that mention, and scrolled down playing the Recordings.
In Recording 4 it seems to be there.



Like mentioned by you two, feels separate from "The Woods."
Not sure whether this incident is likely to have happened during or after the Lunda kidnapping in terms of the game's chronology.

 

[Dragon59]

I am actually hoping for more drama and psychological pain. A bit less gore but more, much more despair.

Huh, was kinda wondering why I couldn't remember that mention, and scrolled down playing the Recordings.
In Recording 4 it seems to be there.

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Like mentioned by you two, feels separate from "The Woods."
Not sure whether this incident is likely to have happened during or after the Lunda kidnapping in terms of the game's chronology.

Yes, now I can understand the confusion. Every mention of "The Woods" has been in the execution context. She was found in the forest (I assume, rather than being inside someone named "Forrest"), not the woods.

 

[Dragon59]

Confusing spelling of the noun "forest" with the name "Forrest" is very common, even with native English speakers.

 

[whichone]

(I assume, rather than being inside someone named "Forrest")

lol I don't want to play that game!

 

[JJJ84]

You know, all this talk about Gracie in the forest or in the wild, gives me the weirdest idea that I'd love to see a special render of Gracie as a smoking hot female version of Bear Grylls-like adventurer

Given Gracie's very free spirit to want to seek adventures and explore something unknown, I'd imagine it would sync very well (like how Ciri cosplay render sync was fantastic with Luna).

HopesGaming, what do you think?

 

[Dragon59]

lol I don't want to play that game!

Reminds me of someone on Sunshine Love who wanted to see the hot nurse as a main character. I started thinking that it would be a game involving bedpans, catheters, and the other exciting duties of a nurse...

 

[Dragon59]

lol "being inside someone" reminded me of some game I saw on here a while back, where the MC was tiny, or the women were giants, whichever, and basically just used him as a dildo.

Or the Ant Man/Thanos solution.

 

[faradhii]

All this theorycrafting is great, but noone is commenting that MC FINALLY got LAID!!!

 

[Lord Verminaard]

With Gracie, I don't really remember her story being connected to "The Woods" within the game (so I'm guessing this is a theory?), but we've already gotten a small glimpse of how scary Gracie can be in the Blizzard Princess event.
And that was just a joke. Imagine if she was truly furious at someone.

Spoiler: Gracie talks about woods

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[Jimayo]

All this theorycrafting is great, but noone is commenting that MC FINALLY got LAID!!!

Cause no one really cares. People love the story. Sex scenes are incidental.

 

[JJJ84]

Spoiler: Gracie talks about woods

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Aha. So Gracie does talk about it (Good catch!).
So from what we're hearing from her, seems like both Luna and Gracie were exploring the forest then they somehow got separated due to an incident, and Gracie lost the memory of what happened.
It will be intriguing how this part of her storyline gets explored.

 

[JJJ84]

All this theorycrafting is great, but noone is commenting that MC FINALLY got LAID!!!

lol probably 2 main reasons for that:

1) Most fans (including myself), at the moment treat sex scenes as pretty much like icing on cake.
Two things matter most to most fans of this game; story & characters.
That does not mean we don't want sex though. We know a lot of it will be coming, all in good time.

2) Eiza is not one of the main girls
Yes, MC finally got laid, but the sex scene was quite short. Someone mentioned this to Hopes (the dev) and his reply was "I didn't want to make the sex scenes of the side girls be more longer or impressive that they overshadow the main girls"

So yeah. we'll see MC have sex with side girls, but I'd imagine we won't get to the the whole floodgates of sexual content unless we reach the milestone where our MC starts having full sex with at least one of the main girls (in terms of order, I'd imagine Luna will be first, followed by either Gracie or Isabel, and then lastly Cordia).

 

[Dragon59]

lol probably 2 main reasons for that:

1) Most fans (including myself), at the moment treat sex scenes as pretty much like icing on cake.
Two things matter most to most fans of this game; story & characters.
That does not mean we don't want sex though. We know a lot of it will be coming, all in good time.

2) Eiza is not one of the main girls
Yes, MC finally got laid, but the sex scene was quite short. Someone mentioned this to Hopes (the dev) and his reply was "I didn't want to make the sex scenes of the side girls be more longer or impressive that they overshadow the main girls"

So yeah. we'll see MC have sex with side girls, but I'd imagine we won't get to the the whole floodgates of sexual content unless we reach the milestone where our MC starts having full sex with at least one of the main girls (in terms of order, I'd imagine Luna will be first, followed by either Gracie or Isabel, and then lastly Cordia).

And to my mind, sex with side characters are often there to spice things up as well as giving the developer time (by making impatient players happier) to take their time with the progression with the main LIs.

 

[whichone]

(in terms of order, I'd imagine Luna will be first, followed by either Gracie or Isabel, and then lastly Cordia).

Definitely, 100% Cordia last.
I have a feeling Isabel will be first. She's furthest advanced, in terms of sexual contact with MC.
I think Gracie could well be ahead of Luna, she's a bit more eager to learn, but then Luna is smitten, so....
Aah, who am I kidding? As if I care, I am happy to wait for all 4 of my beauties to come & do not have a sequential preference.

I just wanna see Ayhsel when Cordia lays down an ultimatum: my daughter(s), or me!