Ren'Py Abandoned The DeLuca Family [Season 1] [HopesGaming]

[HopesGaming]

Wow, am I the only one who hated Luna's flashback story because of how dark it was?? I don't want to find shit like that in any adult games I play. I understand dev wanted to give Luna a sad backstory to explain her craziness, but did it need to be THAT dark for an adult game? Like wtf, that sad 1 hr long flashback didn't belong in this game. Game tone was lighthearted and mostly comedic (Even the gunshot scenes), until that depressing kid prison flashback. If I wanted to read shit like that I would read some grimdark books.

I don't constrain myself regarding what the norm is supposed to be. I've never believed in staying in one box. I like doing my own thing without any templates on 'how it is supposed to be'.

If you know you do not like dark tones in adult games, why play the full version of the story? I clearly made a warning that it was not for the faint of heart and even made a short version (that has no emotional impacts)

Lastly, the first story section of the game explains how the mc's mother tried to poison him. Nothing lighthearted about that.

 

[UnoriginalUserName]

Wow, am I the only one who hated Luna's flashback story because of how dark it was?? I don't want to find shit like that in any adult games I play. I understand dev wanted to give Luna a sad backstory to explain her craziness, but did it need to be THAT dark for an adult game? Like wtf, that sad 1 hr long flashback didn't belong in this game. Game tone was lighthearted and mostly comedic (Even the gunshot scenes), until that depressing kid prison flashback. If I wanted to read shit like that I would read some grimdark books.

I disagree. True the game has a very comedic and lighthearted tone for a lot of scenes, but there are also some darker scenes like when err...Trinio or whatever his name is got shot in the face in Cordia's office, or the scene immediately before the Luna backstory event where she goes apeshit without any wet-wipes to clean up. (I mean, come on Luna, ALWAYS bring wet-wipes to a gunfight!)

And as for the flashback scene itself :

Spoiler: You're given a warning and the option to avoid a lot of it

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It's true that it isn't a happy story, but I felt it was very important character building, and extremely well done.

I'll refer you to this post by HopesGaming : https://f95zone.to/threads/the-deluca-family-v0-05-hopesgaming.15459/post-2706326

 

[Xaøs]

Wow, am I the only one who hated Luna's flashback story because of how dark it was?? I don't want to find shit like that in any adult games I play. I understand dev wanted to give Luna a sad backstory to explain her craziness, but did it need to be THAT dark for an adult game? Like wtf, that sad 1 hr long flashback didn't belong in this game. Game tone was lighthearted and mostly comedic (Even the gunshot scenes), until that depressing kid prison flashback. If I wanted to read shit like that I would read some grimdark books.

I guess you might not be only one but there was a warning and if you were active here Hopes said that it was going to be really dark but in-game warning is enough for those for who don't want this.
Many people complain about not having sex and that game should be light hearted but you know there tons of games like that. But again why this is one of best rated games cause its different.
I just hope hopesgaming don't change any events that he has planned due to comments like this. Something that I would like change about this game is time between updates but that is also ok as long as he don't rush to get it out.

 

[c3p0]

After more than 30 years of video game, I'm quiet astonished to see, that some of use doesn't know we, the players, doesn't have, at least in 99% of the case, a word in how the game should be - and I don't want to see a game where the dev consider every player out there.

So it usually exist two types of games for us, the players: The ones we like and the ones we don't like.
I say use your time for the first and stay away for the second, as the first have enough titles to play, but are a lot harder to find.

Other than that HopesGaming stay on your course as I like the game. Obviously not for all parts, but for most of it - including Lunas backstory.

 

[Marroni]

After more than 30 years of video game, I'm quiet astonished to see, that some of use doesn't know we, the players, doesn't have, at least in 99% of the case, a word in how the game should be - and I don't want to see a game where the dev consider every player out there.

So it usually exist two types of games for us, the players: The ones we like and the ones we don't like.
I say use your time for the first and stay away for the second, as the first have enough titles to play, but are a lot harder to find.

Other than that HopesGaming stay on your course as I like the game. Obviously not for all parts, but for most of it - including Lunas backstory.

I agree with you!!!!

 

[SexiestManAlive]

I don't constrain myself regarding what the norm is supposed to be. I've never believed in staying in one box. I like doing my own thing without any templates on 'how it is supposed to be'.

If you know you do not like dark tones in adult games, why play the full version of the story? I clearly made a warning that it was not for the faint of heart and even made a short version (that has no emotional impacts)

Lastly, the first story section of the game explains how the mc's mother tried to poison him. Nothing lighthearted about that.

Just disappointed that the tone of the game changed at that point, and anyone that far in an adult game without seeing any sex scenes would obviously be in it for the entire full story now lol. I haven't seen the short story but I'm guessing it still wouldn't have changed what happened to Luna or the other little girls? You having to add a 'short story' option first time on Luna's flashback was also odd and also probably proves my point that the game took an unexpectedly serious dark turn. That 30 sec flashback story of MC being poisoned by his mom was also light and nothing compared to Luna's backstory.

 

[I'm Not Thea Lundgren!]

Wow, am I the only one who hated Luna's flashback story because of how dark it was?? I don't want to find shit like that in any adult games I play. I understand dev wanted to give Luna a sad backstory to explain her craziness, but did it need to be THAT dark for an adult game? Like wtf, that sad 1 hr long flashback didn't belong in this game. Game tone was lighthearted and mostly comedic (Even the gunshot scenes), until that depressing kid prison flashback. If I wanted to read shit like that I would read some grimdark books.

The whole point of the Luna flashback was to tell the story of how Luna turned out the way she did, it was one of the best pieces of storytelling I've seen in the past few years (adult or not) and fully deserved to be in the author's story.

Just disappointed that the tone of the game changed at that point, and anyone that far in an adult game without seeing any sex scenes would obviously be in it for the entire full story now lol. I haven't seen the short story but I'm guessing it still wouldn't have changed what happened to Luna or the other little girls? You having to add a 'short story' option first time on Luna's flashback was also odd and also probably proves my point that the game took an unexpectedly serious dark turn. That 30 sec flashback story of MC being poisoned by his mom was also light and nothing compared to Luna's backstory.

The tone needed to change to address Luna's backstory, as has already been said, you were given the choice not to read the full story; the warning was very clear about what was coming. Besides that, you said it yourself this is one of those

adult games

This isn't one of those 10,000 generic landlady/tenant stories. It's art! I hope you stick with it!

 

[Smogark]

Just disappointed that the tone of the game changed at that point, and anyone that far in an adult game without seeing any sex scenes would obviously be in it for the entire full story now lol. I haven't seen the short story but I'm guessing it still wouldn't have changed what happened to Luna or the other little girls? You having to add a 'short story' option first time on Luna's flashback was also odd and also probably proves my point that the game took an unexpectedly serious dark turn. That 30 sec flashback story of MC being poisoned by his mom was also light and nothing compared to Luna's backstory.

Smogark not brain so well since obviously an Orc. But Smogark think you brain less. Look at theme of story. Involves mafia. Before Luna's backstory. You literally see her murderhobo a bunch of weaklings and get drenched in blood. Not to mention their "punishment" prior to actually seeing her backstory. Looking at the stats for what exist already. There exists a number of people killed stat. It's not going to be comedic, and light-hearted always. Smogark not sure what your definition of "light" is when it comes to story-telling either. But being poisoned by one's family is not light. It opens the door to much darker things. As an Orc. Smogark may be biased for liking violence. But when it comes to something like this. This is a story. It's not just a wanton porn game. It's very obvious that it's more story driven than anything. The game doesn't take an unexpectedly serious dark turn. Nor will it ever really do so. We know full well upon looking at things as a whole. It'll get dark pretty quickly, and it can happen at any time. If you're incapable of seeing that, Smogark not know. Adult games aren't just solely porn. Much like how adult movies, TV shows, events, and books aren't solely porn. Be like Smogark, and brain more. Might get more brain than Smogark even

 

[ClaireNv]

Could be worse, involved it with things like rape (which is most unlikely and to my relief it is not, Patreon's HopesGaming would be sent straight to the shadow realm).
Anyway, the backstory is quite surprising and refreshing??? (idk how to express it). I guess it is not expected to had that kind of things in an Eroge and had quite some depth. I came to fap but was intrugued by the story. Second time it happens after Offcuts by Stencilbits.
At the end, exchange of Cordia with Wilfred was welldone. In midway i was suspecting the classic Evil mastermind Wilfred. Wilfred dissapointed with Cordia choice and silently nurturing Grace to make her second coming of Cordia in the past and replace her to make Deluca family rise above and greater than the 5 big family.
aaaaand it is not by the end of it, Wilfred and Joey is indeed quite similiar lol. That was farfetched thinking of mine and silly hahaha........ unless ????

 

[JJJ84]

Just disappointed that the tone of the game changed at that point, and anyone that far in an adult game without seeing any sex scenes would obviously be in it for the entire full story now lol. I haven't seen the short story but I'm guessing it still wouldn't have changed what happened to Luna or the other little girls? You having to add a 'short story' option first time on Luna's flashback was also odd and also probably proves my point that the game took an unexpectedly serious dark turn. That 30 sec flashback story of MC being poisoned by his mom was also light and nothing compared to Luna's backstory.

This is an adult game based on the Mafia genre (in which there would be no doubt killings, & torture, betrayals etc). Sure, there's another game called "Alexandra", but "The DeLuca Family" is a completely different beast to that game (and I mean that as a compliment to HopesGaming).

I think there actually have been some moments in the game which hinted that the world of DeLucas can indeed be dark:

- MC being poisoned by his mom (Hopes said before that we'll know further about this storyline [likely when MC goes to see his mom], & said that story will indeed be dark, though not quite as dark as Luna's flashback)
- Trino is shot dead in Don's room, with MC, Cordia & Wilfred present, & Gracie looks and walks by his corpse as if nothing happened.
- "Pops" Kaskar, the Don of the Kaskar Family is seen torturing the supposed mole in a gruesome manner (with many instruments) before the mole is shot dead by Jalen.

So Hopes has alluded to how dark, cold, cruel & merciless this world can be, leaving bread crumbs here and there. Whether it was his intentional choice or not, I do not know.
Was the Luna flashback more darker than usual? Yes it was. But was it something that is completely out of the blue? No I don't think so. Plus, I think it gave a really compelling story behind why Luna is the way she is currently.

Also, having said that, I think Hopes has created a really fantastic game, which is very balanced between Dark (pain, despair, sorrow, fury, vengeance) & Light (joy, hope, happiness, forgiveness).

Just my two cents on the matter.

 

[jish55]

I feel like none of the game feels out of place as we're slowly building up to major events while going through proper pacing. With Luna's story being as dark as it was, it had to be that way to explain how a girl so young snapped, going from this child to suddenly showing no emotion and instead having what some would consider a sick joy in murdering others, but then when mc sees her vulnerable side, it shows how much she's afraid to reveal anything, especially to him.

 

[mono1]

I dont think eroge should have typical scenarios, but I understand. the backstory was...felt as it is written and intended to be shocking as much as possible. Some people might feel it's unnatural.

 

[itshowyoumetme]

Wow, am I the only one who hated Luna's flashback story because of how dark it was?? I don't want to find shit like that in any adult games I play. I understand dev wanted to give Luna a sad backstory to explain her craziness, but did it need to be THAT dark for an adult game?

Not to pile on too much on an unpopular opinion, but this is a pet peeve of mine. Yes, Deluca is an Adult game, but I wouldn't call it a porn game. There is obviously an overlap between the two, especially on this site but there is a difference. Deluca is a game for adults which means that sex and lewds is a logical part of it, but it is not just that. I don't want to jinx Deluca by comparing it to Game of Thrones, especially given its last couple of seasons, but I think it's a decent example. GoT was definitely an adult show and had, especially early on a lot of sex scenes, but no one would (or should, rather) claim GoT was a porno. Sex and nudity made sense in that setting, as did dark and messed up things. Deluca is much the same but in a mafia setting. Now, we don't know where it will eventually fall on the smut vs grimdark scale but I really don't want devs and writers here to be discouraged and think they can't or shouldn't tell darker stories in their adult games because it clashes with the tones of other games here. (especially when they even warn about it)

I am obviously biased since I think Luna's story was excellently written and added a lot to the game, but still.

HopesGaming is free to tell me I'm wrong about all of this, and that it is indeed a porn game and the game will begin showering us with lewds starting with the next update. (Do it Hopes, I dare you. )

 

[HopesGaming]

Okay, time to answer some stuff. Feeling like I neglected it a bit. Been a bit busy, so sorry about that guys."

Has nobody this bug in the shop?

Spoiler: Shop Bug

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If I click on "The meaning of life" it leads me to the last scene from Gracies questline "The Magic Touch" after the scene the game crashes.

Edit:

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Testet with/without patch. New game, day one. Deleted setting and saves.

Edit 2:
Fixed. (?)
Deleted both persistent files in appdata and and in the gamedir at the same time. "The meaning of life" is now greyed out and right click brings me back to the previous menu. Strange.

This was a stupid mistake from me. This is from the new download (with the two new translation) where I added it as a test but forgot to remove it again.

Man these lewd scenes are annoying AF.. They are interupting the game...
HopesGaming YOU A G
I wonder why dont you put this game on steam. This game has transcended just a "erotic game". This could be a legit game. It has all the necessities. MINDBLOWING Story. Pretty decent game mechanics, good graphics.. etc
God knows if shit like House party can be there why cant this. You sure as hell deserve more.
Once again. Good job.

Don't think steam would work as this game is on-going. Could be a fun thing tho. A new revenue of sort.

Just disappointed that the tone of the game changed at that point, and anyone that far in an adult game without seeing any sex scenes would obviously be in it for the entire full story now lol. I haven't seen the short story but I'm guessing it still wouldn't have changed what happened to Luna or the other little girls? You having to add a 'short story' option first time on Luna's flashback was also odd and also probably proves my point that the game took an unexpectedly serious dark turn. That 30 sec flashback story of MC being poisoned by his mom was also light and nothing compared to Luna's backstory.

As people already mentioned, this is a mafia game and I've been rather vocal since the beginning about the tone.
The flashback of mc may not have been as impactful as Luna's but it is nonetheless dark in tone.
The short version would not have made you feel like you did but rather made you feel the same as when you read mc's quick flashback. More information than feelings.

Now, I know that you are feeling disappointment with Luna's flashback. But you have to ask yourself, what about the majority of the other people? (Luna's flashback have been the most praised of my events to date)
Are they all in the wrong and simply lack your insight? Truth is, neither you nor they are in the wrong. Everyone feels different.
But telling me that "shit like that" "didn't belong in this game "- that is wrong without a doubt.

I dont think eroge should have typical scenarios, but I understand. the backstory was...felt as it is written and intended to be shocking as much as possible. Some people might feel it's unnatural.

It was supposed to be shocking. What else could make a girl go from wanting to be a little princess to a stone-cold killer who enjoys death?
This is more the case as this game is not slice-of-life which more encourages the non-natural story style.
Natural stuff is too boring, heh. Bring me the four serpents!

Not to pile on too much on an unpopular opinion, but this is a pet peeve of mine. Yes, Deluca is an Adult game, but I wouldn't call it a porn game. There is obviously an overlap between the two, especially on this site but there is a difference. Deluca is a game for adults which means that sex and lewds is a logical part of it, but it is not just that. I don't want to jinx Deluca by comparing it to Game of Thrones, especially given its last couple of seasons, but I think it's a decent example. GoT was definitely an adult show and had, especially early on a lot of sex scenes, but no one would (or should, rather) claim GoT was a porno. Sex and nudity made sense in that setting, as did dark and messed up things. Deluca is much the same but in a mafia setting. Now, we don't know where it will eventually fall on the smut vs grimdark scale but I really don't want devs and writers here to be discouraged and think they can't or shouldn't tell darker stories in their adult games because it clashes with the tones of other games here. (especially when they even warn about it)

I am obviously biased since I think Luna's story was excellently written and added a lot to the game, but still.

HopesGaming is free to tell me I'm wrong about all of this, and that it is indeed a porn game and the game will begin showering us with lewds starting with the next update. (Do it Hopes, I dare you. )

I mean, I am in the process of writing in-depth lore about other houses and events, but at the same time- this rotation is lewd rotation and will contain a lot of lewdness.
Luckily the cry babies I detest should be gone so the guys who actually enjoy the game for what it is will get the lewd reward, heh.

 

[voldybuff]

Luckily the cry babies I detest should be gone

Today in wishful thinking...

 

[JJJ84]

Hey HopesGaming just one quick question for you (don't think I've asked one in a long while).

1) The child Luna that we saw in Luna's flashback in the beginning spending time with Lucan was just adorable (and I think it also played a big part [in addition to her narrative] in Luna's flashback arc).
Having also seen glimpse of MC's child appearance (in that very short flashback with his mom in the beginning, which is likely to be expanded in his mom's storyline), would you rule out any chance of appearances with following characters as a child in flashbacks (if it's venturing too much into Spoiler territory you can basically say "I can neither confirm nor deny..." or something along those words )?

- Gracie
- Jalen
- Charvi

Heh, maybe it's just me, but even if it's not a flashback, I'd be pretty darn interested to know how they looked like as children (especially Gracie).

 

[HopesGaming]

Hey HopesGaming just one quick question for you (don't think I've asked one in a long while).

1) The child Luna that we saw in Luna's flashback in the beginning spending time with Lucan was just adorable (and I think it also played a big part [in addition to her narrative] in Luna's flashback arc).
Having also seen glimpse of MC's child appearance (in that very short flashback with his mom in the beginning, which is likely to be expanded in his mom's storyline), would you rule out any chance of appearances with following characters as a child in flashbacks?

- Gracie
- Jalen
- Charvi

Heh, maybe it's just me, but even if it's not a flashback, I'd be pretty darn interested to know how they looked like as children (especially Gracie).

Gracie, Jalen, and Charvi will all be shown in flawbacks for different events.
Even Cordia will have flashbacks with Wilfred on the first time they met. (She was very young)

 

[JJJ84]

Gracie, Jalen, and Charvi will all be shown in flawbacks for different events.
Even Cordia will have flashbacks with Wilfred on the first time they met. (She was very young)

Thanks for the quick reply, Hopes!! And that Cordia flashback with Wilfred mention just made my day!!

 

[halfl]

Luna is My Name - checked
Evening - checked

Tried every each option in game but still can not proceed to Story 10... really want to know what's happening out there.

HopesGaming Could you help to check the save data out?

 

[jish55]

Luna is My Name - checked
Evening - checked

Tried every each option in game but still can not proceed to Story 10... really want to know what's happening out there.

HopesGaming Could you help to check the save data out?

You need to wait a few days until she shows up in mcs room in the afternoon I believe.