VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.4.1] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[R1k0]

How long can you really believe she is naive after all that has happened so far? Personally I think that ship sailed already mostly.. and now its just makes me feel like she is dumb as a rock.

Oh, it's just a porn game, take it easy, you don't have to be smartass.

 

[R1k0]

Did anyone notice the upgrades on Kathryn's Nipples & Areola.
Looks really good with the changes.

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If the developer hadn't mentioned it hardly anyone would have noticed, but attention to detail is always a good thing.

 

[bulbor]

Ok, my two cent:
a liitle too quickly.
The wife in one shot pass from exibition to

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I agree, to much to fast.

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[Theadriel]

I agree, to much to fast.

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I agree. At that pace she's getting fucked in 0.4, gangbang in 0.5 and steet whore/prostitute in remaining updates making her a boring standard whore. All that in like 3-4 days since they moved in.

I know people want sex scenes at all cost but all corruption games are folowing the same scheme
Day1: let's get frisky and look at not bf cocks
Day 2: random people handjob
Day 3: BJ +facial or cum on breast
Day 4: swallow couple shots from strangers
Day 5 getting fucked
Day 6: being an open hole to anyone willing to empty their balls

She's not exploring her sexuality she's swapping personality in world record time.
Not even talking about being a stupid girl (like always) believing stranger are good people she can trust

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[mommysboiii]

I agree. At that pace she's getting fucked in 0.4, gangbang in 0.5 and steet whore/prostitute in remaining updates making her a boring standard whore. All that in like 3-4 days since they moved in.

I know people want sex scenes at all cost but all corruption games are folowing the same scheme
Day1: let's get frisky and look at not bf cocks
Day 2: random people handjob
Day 3: BJ +facial or cum on breast
Day 4: swallow couple shots from strangers
Day 5 getting fucked
Day 6: being an open hole to anyone willing to empty their balls

She's not exploring her sexuality she's swapping personality in world record time.
Not even talking about being a stupid girl (like always) believing stranger are good people she can trust

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the thing that you keep in mind is that corruption,sharing, netorare and cheating are the MAIN focus and with the next update the game is 1/3 done

so I dont know how slow you want it but if the game starts corruption at episode 9 you will have the same problem she will go from blowjob to sex , to gangbang to street whore in 4 episodes

so yeah this game needs to start corruption at some point so I dont really understand how your pacing would look like remember next update is already epsiode 4

and sure the gf is innocent but NOT completly innocent like the average woman she is more open mindend even if she has clear limits at the moment

 

[Daddy-S]

Oh, it's just a porn game, take it easy, you don't have to be smartass.

I am tho, sorry. I like some amount of realism in my VN's and sometimes small details that others dont even notice completly break my immersion or belief in certain characters if I just wanted porn I wouldnt be playing AVN's for it.

 

[mommysboiii]

the only think that I dont understand is clems actions in chapter 1 after the amzing epsiode 3 with clem she is in my top 3 with the MC boss

but clem seems different in chapter 1 she is like very caring (inviting them for dinner, ask if kat is alone at home....)and her toughts are like (nice) but this does not fit her personalitie in chapter 3 there is this guy that warns about her but she seems so nice mabye its all lies but her toughts would need to be different than or????maybe she is jsut crazy or maybe its to not spoil the future to show us her real toughts but clem seems very different in chapter 1 and 3 at least with her own toughts

clem is like in her own toughts I dont wanna be a homewrecker kat is so nice even if she is naive and this does not fit her personalitie in chapter 3 and her inviting gathering informations and (lying) acording to albert so I am confused about clem

 

[Theadriel]

the thing that you keep in mind is that corruption,sharing, netorare and cheating are the MAIN focus and with the next update the game is 1/3 donegame doesn't have to end at 1.0. could be multiple episodes too.

so I dont know how slow you want it but if the game starts corruption at episode 9 you will have the same problem she will go from blowjob to sex , to gangbang to street whore in 4 episodes

so yeah this game needs to start corruption at some point so I dont really understand how your pacing would look like remember next update is already epsiode 4

and sure the gf is innocent but NOT completly innocent like the average woman she is more open mindend even if she has clear limits at the moment

The game doesn't have to end at 1.0. could be multiple episodes too.
A pace where a woman doesn't switch from "I'm faithful to my bf and a kinda vanilla woman" to "I'll suck someone and swallow his load" in couple days would be nice and original (again there are hundreds games following the regular corruption path)
Game could explore slowly from doing experiments (doing stuff outside, watching people have sex, then eventually have sex next to other people then swing and endly have sex while bf watch) and then go for the sharing/ntr path because she liked those new experimentations and want to explore her sexuality further by herself (with or without bf consent) etc.
There are many ways to graduately makes things evolves without switching from normal girl to street slut in some days.

 

[TomUK]

The game doesn't have to end at 1.0. could be multiple episodes too.
A pace where a woman doesn't switch from "I'm faithful to my bf and a kinda vanilla woman" to "I'll suck someone and swallow his load" in couple days would be nice and original (again there are hundreds games following the regular corruption path)
Game could explore slowly from doing experiments (doing stuff outside, watching people have sex, then eventually have sex next to other people then swing and endly have sex while bf watch) and then go for the sharing/ntr path because she liked those new experimentations and want to explore her sexuality further by herself (with or without bf consent) etc.
There are many ways to graduately makes things evolves without switching from normal girl to street slut in some days.

Seems to me from some of her 'dreams' and 'flashbacks' or 'recollections' that she was always a little bit of an exhibitionist, just it usually only came out when she was drunk and Luke found he liked to watch other guys play with Katheryn when he caught his 'friend' playing with her tits that one night. Once you find this stuff out about yourself it doesn't usually take that long to get in to it especially if given encouragement by someone you love and trust. Usually the only thing that would hold you back would be your own insecurities.

 

[Zara Scarlet]

i want the old man accident crempie kathryin

I'm sure he'll be intentionally giving her a creampie in the future and she'll love it. It's pretty obvious Kathryn will eventually become a total slut if you allow it. Whether her and Luke will still be an item at that point, well that's debatable.

 

[Theadriel]

Seems to me from some of her 'dreams' and 'flashbacks' or 'recollections' that she was always a little bit of an exhibitionist, just it usually only came out when she was drunk and Luke found he liked to watch other guys play with Katheryn when he caught his 'friend' playing with her tits that one night. Once you find this stuff out about yourself it doesn't usually take that long to get in to it especially if given encouragement by someone you love and trust. Usually the only thing that would hold you back would be your own insecurities.

I didn't said she was a nun either . Just a vanilla girl with fantasies and a good base for going further in her sexuality. Still nobody irl would switch personality that fast imo. Or very rare

 

[TomUK]

I didn't said she was a nun either . Just a vanilla girl with fantasies and a good base for going further in her sexuality. Still nobody irl would switch personality that fast imo. Or very rare

I'm just saying that from what we've seen from her 'dreams / fantasies' and the flashbacks, I think she's always had that in her and it used to show when she had a drink and lost her inhibitions, it's just now because her boyfriend now has these fantasies that he's pushing on her, she can hide behind that instead of fully embracing her own wild fantasies of her own accord.

 

[Joshy92]

I want Kathryn to be my slutty girlfriend.
I want to see her take a dozen loads in her vagina and see a bunch of guys cum on her pretty face.

And as her loving boyfriend Kathryn knows she can experience all that then come and cuddle up in bed with me.

 

[luxilfer666]

Well, her mom is a model and a tease. Apple doesn't fall far from the free.

 

[Dessolos]

I agree. At that pace she's getting fucked in 0.4, gangbang in 0.5 and steet whore/prostitute in remaining updates making her a boring standard whore. All that in like 3-4 days since they moved in.

I know people want sex scenes at all cost but all corruption games are folowing the same scheme
Day1: let's get frisky and look at not bf cocks
Day 2: random people handjob
Day 3: BJ +facial or cum on breast
Day 4: swallow couple shots from strangers
Day 5 getting fucked
Day 6: being an open hole to anyone willing to empty their balls

She's not exploring her sexuality she's swapping personality in world record time.
Not even talking about being a stupid girl (like always) believing stranger are good people she can trust

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For me I don't see it as going too quickly as if I recall right she asked Luke about doing the BJ first and then it was the players choice to do it with Luke or a Nate ( if I recall the name correctly). Now if we had no option as the player to do that scene with Luke, or option to be there and watch while she did the BJ with Nate and she just asked us and did it when we aren't around. Then id see it as going a bit too quickly, but because Luke has been there every step of the way of her exploring her self it didn't feel like she going to fast but not slow either. Would I have liked it a bit slower yes no doubt but still because of the choices and them doing things together with respect for one another it didn't feel too quickly for me personally. I think the theme of being there together and exploring this side of their new found sexuality together helps to sell it as being a slow burn under any other circumstance it 100% would be too quick especially with a similar themed game.

 

[Theadriel]

It's not the fastest I've seen for sure (some of those games are really stupid on that part) and don't get me wrong the game is great. I just wished it would be less "conventional" and going on a different path and pace than other game of the same kind.
Kind of like a Summer is gone or Where is all begin pace but for corruption (Wiab has corruption too kinda btw)

 

[Zara Scarlet]

Seems to me from some of her 'dreams' and 'flashbacks' or 'recollections' that she was always a little bit of an exhibitionist, just it usually only came out when she was drunk and Luke found he liked to watch other guys play with Katheryn when he caught his 'friend' playing with her tits that one night. Once you find this stuff out about yourself it doesn't usually take that long to get in to it especially if given encouragement by someone you love and trust. Usually the only thing that would hold you back would be your own insecurities.

Luke is a control freak, he hates the idea of Kathryn making her own decisions and he's done everything possible to make sure she always checks everything with him first, before making any lifechoice. So it's not surprising that Kathryn is hesitant and unsure about what she wants, and always feels that Luke has to be kept in the loop. My guess is, one of the main reasons he chose Kathryn is because she was insecure, and thus easy for him to control.

And he's the kind of guy she would naturally go for, because she believes she needs someone else to make her decisions for her. And Luke is also not nasty about wanting to be in control, like Mr Santini, at least not yet anyway ( that's why Santini says him and Luke are the same, he recognises a fellow control freak). It's noticeable, that everyone says that Luke's a really lucky guy to be with someone like Kathryn, as if they believe she's really out of his league. The truth is, she is out of his league ( I think that's what he believes anyway), but by making her so dependant on him, she never considers any of the other possibilities that could be available to her.

Luke's problem, is that his 'fetish' is now putting all this at risk. Because by pushing her to be bolder and take more risks sexually, he's unintentionally making her bolder in other ways as well. She's starting to consider a very dangerous possibility. She really doesn't need Luke to make decisions for her. This is why we start to get choices for Kathryn alone. It's clear evidence that she's starting to think for herself, without having to clear everything with Luke first. This is Luke's greatest fear. Because if she starts making her own decisions, what does she need him for? She might start believing she really is out of his league, that she could do a lot better someplace else. The control freak in him, simply cannot conceive that she might like him for other reasons. Because the hard reality is, that it's Luke himself, not Kathryn, that believes she's out of his league. That's his insecurity, which he hides from the world, by being a control freak. His cuck fetish, is born of how he really feels inside, helpless, out of control, unable to influence events.

I'm not trying to suggest this is all some devious plot by Luke to manipulate his girlfriend and deliberately keep her under his thumb. I'm pretty certain, it's all unconscious on his part and he truly believes he's doing all this for her benefit. But the reality is, that it's mainly for his benefit. Kathryn is quite capable of making her own decisions, and in any normal relationship she would be encouraged to do so. We don't learn from always making the right choices, we learn from sometimes making mistakes and then not making them the next time. That's how we transition from child to adult. Luke has decided he needs to make sure Kathryn never does this, so there's no possibility she'll ever leave him.

But giving in to his fetish, is sabotaging this, because it's forcing Kathryn to become more adventurous, and the more adventurous she becomes, the more likely she is to think for herself. So it starts off being purely for his pleasure, but she enjoys it. And gradually enjoys it more and more, until it's not just for his pleasure but her own as well. How long before it's mainly for her pleasure, that he doesn't need to be a part of? And we see this happening, when she teases Alex without checking with Luke first. She says to herself, that she'll tell him about it later, but she doesn't. She fantasises about Franklin and keeps that to herself as well. She ignores his warning about Santini and takes the job, because she decides for herself that having enough money, is more important than Luke's misgivings about his boss. On the surface at least, it appears that Luke has more control over her, but underneath he's actually losing it, because she's becoming more and more self- confident. And confident people, don't need others to make decisions for them.

Kathryn's mother was a model, and it's obvious she's an exhibitionist, who likes to take risks. So not so surprising perhaps that her equally beautiful daughter takes after her, even if she's tried really hard to deny it to herself. Kathryn is a natural model, but until she tries it for herself, is convinced that it's not her at all. Other people can see it, but she is blind to it. She obviously lacks confidence in herself, and Luke has cultivated this belief, so he can control her. Deep down he knows, she could easily be a model, and she could do pretty much anything she set her mind to. But he doesn't want her to think that way, because she might decide he's not good enough for her. So he suggests she might be good enough to be a model, but never really encourages it, subtly insinuating the belief in her mind, that it would be just too much for her. So on the one hand, he's always surrepticiously putting her down, but now his fetish is having the unintended consequence of building her up.

The supreme irony is, that the more he seemingly controls her, by persuading her to do more and more sexual things, the more independant he's actually making her. And he's setting in motion, the very thing he fears most. She may come to believe herself, that she's out of his league? Now I'm guessing, that will depend on your choices as a player. If he cheats on her, she'll probably find out about it, and end up cheating on him, and their relationship will fall apart. But it doesn't necessarily have to end that way.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Luke is a control freak, he hates the idea of Kathryn making her own decisions and he's done everything possible to make sure she always checks everything with him first, before making any lifechoice. So it's not surprising that Kathryn is hesitant and unsure about what she wants, and always feels that Luke has to be kept in the loop. My guess is, one of the main reasons he chose Kathryn is because she was insecure, and thus easy for him to control.

And he's the kind of guy she would naturally go for, because she believes she needs someone else to make her decisions for her. And Luke is also not nasty about wanting to be in control, like Mr Santini, at least not yet anyway ( that's why Santini says him and Luke are the same, he recognises a fellow control freak). It's noticeable, that everyone says that Luke's a really lucky guy to be with someone like Kathryn, as if they believe she's really out of his league. The truth is, she is out of his league ( I think that's what he believes anyway), but by making her so dependant on him, she never considers any of the other possibilities that could be available to her.

Luke's problem, is that his 'fetish' is now putting all this at risk. Because by pushing her to be bolder and take more risks sexually, he's unintentionally making her bolder in other ways as well. She's starting to consider a very dangerous possibility. She really doesn't need Luke to make decisions for her. This is why we start to get choices for Kathryn alone. It's clear evidence that she's starting to think for herself, without having to clear everything with Luke first. This is Luke's greatest fear. Because if she starts making her own decisions, what does she need him for? She might start believing she really is out of his league, that she could do a lot better someplace else. The control freak in him, simply cannot conceive that she might like him for other reasons. Because the hard reality is, that it's Luke himself, not Kathryn, that believes she's out of his league. That's his insecurity, which he hides from the world, by being a control freak. His cuck fetish, is born of how he really feels inside, helpless, out of control, unable to influence events.

I'm not trying to suggest this is all some devious plot by Luke to manipulate his girlfriend and deliberately keep her under his thumb. I'm pretty certain, it's all unconscious on his part and he truly believes he's doing all this for her benefit. But the reality is, that it's mainly for his benefit. Kathryn is quite capable of making her own decisions, and in any normal relationship she would be encouraged to do so. We don't learn from always making the right choices, we learn from sometimes making mistakes and then not making them the next time. That's how we transition from child to adult. Luke has decided he needs to make sure Kathryn never does this, so there's no possibility she'll ever leave him.

But giving in to his fetish, is sabotaging this, because it's forcing Kathryn to become more adventurous, and the more adventurous she becomes, the more likely she is to think for herself. So it starts off being purely for his pleasure, but she enjoys it. And gradually enjoys it more and more, until it's not just for his pleasure but her own as well. How long before it's mainly for her pleasure, that he doesn't need to be a part of? And we see this happening, when she teases Alex without checking with Luke first. She says to herself, that she'll tell him about it later, but she doesn't. She fantasises about Franklin and keeps that to herself as well. She ignores his warning about Santini and takes the job, because she decides for herself that having enough money, is more important than Luke's misgivings about his boss. On the surface at least, it appears that Luke has more control over her, but underneath he's actually losing it, because she's becoming more and more self- confident. And confident people, don't need others to make decisions for them.

Kathryn's mother was a model, and it's obvious she's an exhibitionist, who likes to take risks. So not so surprising perhaps that her equally beautiful daughter takes after her, even if she's tried really hard to deny it to herself. Kathryn is a natural model, but until she tries it for herself, is convinced that it's not her at all. Other people can see it, but she is blind to it. She obviously lacks confidence in herself, and Luke has cultivated this belief, so he can control her. Deep down he knows, she could easily be a model, and she could do pretty much anything she set her mind to. But he doesn't want her to think that way, because she might decide he's not good enough for her. So he suggests she might be good enough to be a model, but never really encourages it, subtly insinuating the belief in her mind, that it would be just too much for her. So on the one hand, he's always surrepticiously putting her down, but now his fetish is having the unintended consequence of building her up.

The supreme irony is, that the more he seemingly controls her, by persuading her to do more and more sexual things, the more independant he's actually making her. And he's setting in motion, the very thing he fears most. She may come to believe herself, that she's out of his league? Now I'm guessing, that will depend on your choices as a player. If he cheats on her, she'll probably find out about it, and end up cheating on him, and their relationship will fall apart. But it doesn't necessarily have to end that way.

That's some heavy-handed psychoanalysis! I think Luke chose Katherine because he loves her, and I think she chose him because she loves him. He realizes he needs to be careful asking her to do risky exhibitionist stuff - as exemplified in this episodes flashback with the drinking scene. I don't buy into all this manipulation subtext you're putting on them though, which seems remarkably one-sided.

 

[NewTricks]

That's some heavy-handed psychoanalysis! I think Luke chose Katherine because he loves her, and I think she chose him because she loves him. He realizes he needs to be careful asking her to do risky exhibitionist stuff - as exemplified in this episodes flashback with the drinking scene. I don't buy into all this manipulation subtext you're putting on them though, which seems remarkably one-sided.

Speaking as a woman, a lot of women really really like it when the guy takes charge. So it probably isn't as much as she thinks that she isn't able to make decisions. She couldn't function if that was the case. It is just that it charges her up when he makes the decision for her. When he picks up the menu at the restaurant and orders for her, so to speak. Even if it is something she wouldn't choose to do on her own. Especially if it is something she wouldn't have the confidence or let's be honest depravity to do. So it is more of a symbiotic relationship than a manipulative one. She has demonstrated in the story that she won't do everything he says, but she does enjoy it when he pushes her limits. Now if she wasn't having a good time I would go as so far to point out the toxicity but for this couple it seems to be what they both need from each other, satisfying both his need for control and her desire to be directed. I'm sure that she had a boyfriend in her past that let her do whatever she wants and never contradicted anything she said in his endless quest to let her walk all over him and it bored the fuck out of her. Birds of a feather may fly together but it is opposites that attract.

 

[DarkDaemonX]

I'm just saying that from what we've seen from her 'dreams / fantasies' and the flashbacks, I think she's always had that in her and it used to show when she had a drink and lost her inhibitions, it's just now because her boyfriend now has these fantasies that he's pushing on her, she can hide behind that instead of fully embracing her own wild fantasies of her own accord.

He only has those fantasies on the NTR/sharing path, if not on that path he got mad at his friend and told him to never get near them ever again.