Zara Scarlet

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Well if Luke had let that happen it would technically be rape as she thought it was him. So I'm not surprised that Bobby stopped it there, regardless of player choice. Everything that Kath does should be completely consensual.
The reason he stopped it at that point, is because we're currently following only a netorase route, and that would be netorare, not netorase. My guess is when we eventually switch to having netorare content, Kathyn will end up getting fucked in those situations, either because Luke turns up too late to stop it, or his perversion grows too strong to intervene. In either case, consensuality won't be a factor, because by then she'll be actively cheating on Luke anyway.
 

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The reason he stopped it at that point, is because we're currently following only a netorase route, and that would be netorare, not netorase. My guess is when we eventually switch to having netorare content, Kathyn will end up getting fucked in those situations, either because Luke turns up too late to stop it, or his perversion grows too strong to intervene. In either case, consensuality won't be a factor, because by then she'll be actively cheating on Luke anyway.
Bobby is careful not to get booted off patreon so I doubt we'll see any non consensual penetration. He had to change a couple of things just today when he found out some scenes aren't full patreon compliant.
 

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The reason he stopped it at that point, is because we're currently following only a netorase route, and that would be netorare, not netorase. My guess is when we eventually switch to having netorare content, Kathyn will end up getting fucked in those situations, either because Luke turns up too late to stop it, or his perversion grows too strong to intervene. In either case, consensuality won't be a factor, because by then she'll be actively cheating on Luke anyway.
In the sort of situation being referred to, Kathryn thinks it's Luke, so the whole thing is on Luke's shoulders. If it carries on, it's not Kathryn cheating on Luke, because she thinks she's being used by Luke. If Luke's not there (for instance like the end scene with the creep while she's on the table at the doctor's) and it goes that far without her consent, it wouldn't be her cheating, it would be rape.
 
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In the sort of situation being referred to, Kathryn thinks it's Luke, so the whole thing is on Luke's shoulders. If it carries on, it's not Kathryn cheating on Luke, because she thinks she's being used by Luke. If Luke's not there (for instance like the end scene with the creep while she's on the table at the doctor's) and it goes that far without her consent, it wouldn't be her cheating, it would be rape.
About that last scene, I wonder what will happen
will Kath allowed the Doc to ruin her or will she resists?
 

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About that last scene, I wonder what will happen
will Kath allowed the Doc to ruin her or will she resists?
I guess it will be player choice, possibly a choice that you've already made with the "does she like the perverted city or not" pick at the end of the update. Of course, it's not actually a doctor there though.
 

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Patreon should just boldly State that only huge boobs, ass and vanilla missionary sex positions are permitted. For Fuchs sake - what rules could the Dev have run afoul of?
 
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There is one scene that instead of making me hard, it actually made me a little upset.
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It was a tough scene for me to see because Kathryn was upset and Luke didn't seem to notice. I know it's just a porn game and I should just fap, but man it really tugged at my heart and I think one of the reasons for that is because Bobby is such a good storyteller. He really knows how to hit those emotional beats.
 
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Bobby is careful not to get booted off patreon so I doubt we'll see any non consensual penetration. He had to change a couple of things just today when he found out some scenes aren't full patreon compliant.
It's not non-consensual if Kathryn wants it. In that particular scene Kathryn believes that only her and Luke are in the glory hole area, so naturally she believes it's him, and in any case she's currently following a non-cheating path, so I think she'd be pretty upset by such a scenario. But in the future, when she finds out about Luke's betrayal and a netorare route begins, she won't feel the same way, so a similar situation is likely to result in a very different reaction from her. Yes, it has to be that way at the moment, but all he has to do later in the game is have Kathryn realise that it's not actually Luke, and have her go along with it, and it's no longer an issue.
 

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In the sort of situation being referred to, Kathryn thinks it's Luke, so the whole thing is on Luke's shoulders. If it carries on, it's not Kathryn cheating on Luke, because she thinks she's being used by Luke. If Luke's not there (for instance like the end scene with the creep while she's on the table at the doctor's) and it goes that far without her consent, it wouldn't be her cheating, it would be rape.
As I said above, the likelihood in the situation I'm referring to, is that Kathryn will realise it isn't Luke, so it won't be non-consensual. The whole point of her not realising these things, so that Luke has to make choices for her, is integral to their netorase relationship. Once the game switches to netorare, it won't work unless she's fully aware of what's happening, because then it switches to her making the decisions, and Luke becoming the passive partner.
 

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It's not non-consensual if Kathryn wants it. In that particular scene Kathryn believes that only her and Luke are in the glory hole area, so naturally she believes it's him, and in any case she's currently following a non-cheating path, so I think she'd be pretty upset by such a scenario. But in the future, when she finds out about Luke's betrayal and a netorare route begins, she won't feel the same way, so a similar situation is likely to result in a very different reaction from her. Yes, it has to be that way at the moment, but all he has to do later in the game is have Kathryn realise that it's not actually Luke, and have her go along with it, and it's no longer an issue.
I don't know how you aren't getting this. If some guy sticks his dick in Kathryn, and she doesn't know it's not Luke, even if she starts to like it when she finds out the first initial penetration is rape because it wasn't who she was expecting it to be.
 

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Patreon should just boldly State that only huge boobs, ass and vanilla missionary sex positions are permitted. For Fuchs sake - what rules could the Dev have run afoul of?
Anything even vaguely taboo, is fair game for the powerful US religious groups currently trying to ban porn completely from the internet. Patreon like most other platforms that host porn producers, have no choice but to remove certain content, unless they want to lose access to the credit card companies, like Pornhub did. This is effectively being forced upon them, and is not necessarily representative of any wanted change to company policy.

This likely to be an ongoing process, and more restrictions to content will happen in the future.
 
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I don't know how you aren't getting this. If some guy sticks his dick in Kathryn, and she doesn't know it's not Luke, even if she starts to like it when she finds out the first initial penetration is rape because it wasn't who she was expecting it to be.
I never said anything about someone penetrating her, before she realises it. You're just assuming I meant that. I said she would realise it was someone else who wanted to have sex with her, and she'd go along with it. That's not rape, but someone being at most inappropriate, until she decides to allow them to carry on.

In the scene we're all referring to, no penetration actually took place, so why would you assume I meant that?
 
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I never said anything about someone penetrating her, before she realises it. You're just assuming I meant that. I said she would realise it was someone else who wanted to have sex with her, and she'd go along with it. That's not rape, but someone being at most inappropriate, until she decides to allow them to carry on.

In the scene we're all referring to, no penetration actually took place, so why would you assume I meant that?
Well because penetration is the goal of any AVN, so I just assumed.

BTW, sorry for sounding snippy, that wasn't my intent, I just get nervous around Patreon conversations because I have seen so many get the boot from there and I don't want the east block to even chance it in the slightest.
 
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Honestly im glad the scene in Clem's dungeon stopped when it did. I kind of hated that scene as to me it was about guys being creepy , yeah was hot cause it was Kathryn but beyond that I didn't enjoy it. Plus it was a NTS scene without Luke and Kathryn being in on it as a team just was a happy accident for Luke. It's not the kind of scene I think of when it comes to NTS really unless it was pre planned together as a couple. ( which it wasn't)
 

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I never said anything about someone penetrating her, before she realises it. You're just assuming I meant that. I said she would realise it was someone else who wanted to have sex with her, and she'd go along with it. That's not rape, but someone being at most inappropriate, until she decides to allow them to carry on.

In the scene we're all referring to, no penetration actually took place, so why would you assume I meant that?
In the scenario that was being discussed, the gloryhole dungeon in Clem's shop, the discussion was that if Luke hadn't been there to stop the guy, and therefore the guy had actually fucked Kathryn, it would be rape - even though Kathryn at the time had thought it was Luke, and so she was accepting of it (and might have enjoyed it). She would have been accepting sex with her partner, so because it wasn't Luke, and was essentially someone fucking her by deception, it would have been rape.
 

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Honestly im glad the scene in Clem's dungeon stopped when it did. I kind of hated that scene as to me it was about guys being creepy , yeah was hot cause it was Kathryn but beyond that I didn't enjoy it. Plus it was a NTS scene without Luke and Kathryn being in on it as a team just was a happy accident for Luke. It's not the kind of scene I think of when it comes to NTS really unless it was pre planned together as a couple. ( which it wasn't)
clem is hot but annoying
 
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In the scenario that was being discussed, the gloryhole dungeon in Clem's shop, the discussion was that if Luke hadn't been there to stop the guy, and therefore the guy had actually fucked Kathryn, it would be rape - even though Kathryn at the time had thought it was Luke, and so she was accepting of it (and might have enjoyed it). She would have been accepting sex with her partner, so because it wasn't Luke, and was essentially someone fucking her by deception, it would have been rape.
it is rape because it is forced sex,it doesn t matter if she enjoy it or not.
 

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I used to like Clem and give her the benefit of the doubt not after the last update with her putting some doubt into Kathryn she us a fucken snake
That why i don't play the NTR route.There is no likable male characters expect mc.For females u can exclude rika and clem from likable.
 
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