VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.3] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[only MILF]

Oh, I played it, I have two routes, one I called "whore girlfriend", the other is "curious couple" and I play it like I'll do in real life.

"whore girlfriend"...I played only this.

 

[only MILF]

Oh, I played it, I have two routes, one I called "whore girlfriend", the other is "curious couple" and I play it like I'll do in real life.

So I take it... If you go down the path of debauchery, you'll see more scenes with glorious heroes? What if we follow the path of love, or 50/50? What's the difference? There's no point scale. What is your opinion?

 

[Dkdk]

You are a bit off. I believe he is referring to certain RENPY games that allow you to disable AI animations entirely by setting it so in the settings tab. For example, like so:
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Honestly, while I do not really mind AI animations, I have to disagree- switching Unseen Text ON and using Ctrl is a terrible and cumbersome way to guess where AI animations start and where they end. Not to mention the hit to immersion when you are trying not to miss story dialogues that run during the AI sequence.

Ooh, what game is this?

 

[JBNYC1]

Then you have already missed the point. AI Animation is NOT default for RENPY standard in the first place. If a dev goes as far as to bake it into their game, they can go a step farther and CAN code the setting to disable them as well. It's just a preference of if they want to or not. Clearly it's a divisive technology so you can't blame people if they like AND dislike it.

Also more and more games with AI animations are choosing to add that setting nowadays. So while you're correct in citing the setting missing, as the standard- it doesn't mean that it's fine still with the AI tech added as well. I mean we could also smash rocks with other rocks. But once we mastered the iron, we appreciated the hammer for doing the job better, no?

Lastly, just because you enjoy the game as is, doesn't mean everyone else does as well. If someone bothers to type a criticism, fair chance they care about the game in their own way and would like to see it improve. Your method of skipping SKIPS EVERYTHING. The original poster only wants to skip AI animations, not the CGs themselves. There is a stark difference here and I have no idea how you think it's fine to fit a square in a round hole because "at least it still blocks the hole".

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I disagree with your argument completely, friend, because you clearly failed to understand what I wrote, and I did not mention anything about animations or AI animations being a "default" in RenPy at all lol. I actually said the opposite. It is clear you didn't understand what I wrote, or you just need an excuse to argue a senseless point and twist things. So once again, I stand by everything I wrote. If you still don't understand then that is beyond me. Your comment is more like twisting things and looking for an argument lol.

And yes, I am very correct in what I wrote, but I didn't invent or create RenPy, so if you view the tech as "divisive" that is your opinion, and I respect that but I do not agree with you. Not to mention, I rarely ever use Unseen Text or Skip the VNs I like and enjoy, it would be pointless, as I made that clear as well. Also, everyone is entitled and has the option to enjoy the VN the way they like, and can use the features in Preferences to enable or disable Unseen Text, and I made that pretty clear as well, LonePrime. Everyone has a right to use RenPy default preferences anyway they like, and again, to each their own.

Also, I am not blaming anyone for anything whether they like the tech or not, and that is not what this is about at all. Lol... Those are your own words not mine. I made it very clear in what I wrote and how people use Unseen Text and Ctrl when using a PC to skip animations and or text if they want to is their own choice and option if people want to use it, and it works as intended - Simple! End of story.

How is this so complicated lol. And again, the image and reply comment shared shows a custom coded screen preference that is NOT the standard default that most RenPy VNs have, unless a Dev adds it, and default does not include disabling "AI Animations." It's funny how I repeat what I shared and still some folks don't understand lol. I rest my case, but thank you for your comment. Cheers!

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[LonerPrime]

Ooh, what game is this?

Sorry, it's not considered polite to cite names of other games in a game's dedicated thread. I'll just DM the link to you.

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And yes, I am very correct in what I wrote, but I didn't invent or create RenPy, so if you view the tech as "divisive"
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Yea I'm not going to bother reading past this line. Because it's hilarious to me that you think that I don't understand your point when you clearly COMPLETELY presumed wrongly that when I said "divisive tech", I actually meant RENPY and not AI Animations themselves. I mean how does that even make sense? Literally the OP's topic was "ways to avoid AI", not to "ways to avoid Renpy".

Yea, discussing this is pointless. And it's definitely my fault for biting. Consider this the last on this from my end.

 

[La Dani]

So I take it... If you go down the path of debauchery, you'll see more scenes with glorious heroes? What if we follow the path of love, or 50/50? What's the difference? There's no point scale. What is your opinion?

If I understand your question, the question is about difference between the two routes? I can say that in the “warm” path you miss a lot of spicy scene. I think dev is making a game for full throttle players.
But like in the IRL a good partnership means to stop at a certain point.

 

[only MILF]

If I understand your question, the question is about difference between the two routes? I can say that in the “warm” path you miss a lot of spicy scene. I think dev is making a game for full throttle players.
But like in the IRL a good partnership means to stop at a certain point.

Got it. Thank you. The more debauchery, the more opportunities.

 

[La Dani]

Got it. Thank you. The more debauchery, the more opportunities.

Yes, perfect. In the games work perfectly.

 

[asciaesu]

Sorry, it's not considered polite to cite names of other games in a game's dedicated thread. I'll just DM the link to you.


Hi, could you DM the link or at least the name of that game to me as well? Looks very interesting from that screenshot. Thanks!

 

[JBNYC1]

Anyone reading your comments on this would think that you can use "skip unseen" via the Ctrl button and just avoid the animations and nothing else. But that's not the case. Yes, it skips animations, but it doesn't discriminate, it skips everything and will only stop when it reaches a choice, unless you manually intervene. That is what I meant by saying it is not a solution. The problem specified was that the animations do not allow you to progress until they have run their course, so if you press space or left click, it does nothing. A regular animation would stop and move on to the next line of code, be it a static render or a line of dialogue, when you click the mouse or hit space.

The "problem" was only regarding the animations, not the entire game, but you calling "skip unseen" the solution is like giving a surgeon a sledgehammer when they ask for a scalpel. I think you are reaching a little too far in trying to debunk any criticism of this update, and sometimes you just need to accept that not everyone views it through rose-tinted glasses, and nor should they be expected to.

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I do not disagree with some of your points, TonyMurray, I simply made reference of what another user posted and that is actually the only solution for VN games that do not have a custom coded screen preference in RenPy with the ability to disable AI Animations specifically. Would it be a good feature to add to Preferences in RenPy, absolutely. RenPy should add a feature like that in future updates. As I mentioned before, when having Unseen Text On and using Ctrl on PC the user has full control and can choose when to stop at a certain point manually like you said, and although it can be annoying it is an option that is available and works in RenPy.

As for what I wrote about this, I stand by it 100% percent, friend, and I also made it clear I respect other people's opinion and how people wish to experience the VN is also their own choice. To each their own. If anything, this just got blown out of proportion and clearly misunderstood, but I cannot be more clear with what I already wrote.

With that said, I rarely every use Skip Unseen, because there is no point in it unless a user has already experienced some parts of the visual novel and wishes to skip things they have already seen. As for animations, I never skip those. It is part of the story, but if some folks prefer to skip animations that is an option that is available to everyone, and perhaps the Dev should consider adding a custom coded AI Animation skip feature in Preferences.

As for debunking any criticism, there are many that love, like and enjoyed The East Block Chapter 8, which I did very much and so did many other fans and supporters, but I don't need to debunk anything. I simply shared my own experience as other do on here, and also agreed some improvements are needed. If someone doesn't like the VN's latest update that's okay and I respect that. But as I wrote previously on here, sharing constructive suggestions to help improve the VN, I am all for it and I am sure Bobby appreciates it, too, and I believe The East Block will only get better.

Either way, thank you for sharing your points and feedback on this. It is appreciated and all good, friend. Cheers!

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[Arachnox]

It would be very strange if Luke were OK with Kathryn after she returns. She takes his dad's side, openly treating him like a child by giving him the option to leave, and spending a whole night (even if nothing happened, which is my preferred route) with his dad. No sane/self-respecting man would be OK with that.

Maybe have Elise sense their bond weakening and try to seduce and manipulate Luke?

 

[JBNYC1]

It would be very strange if Luke were OK with Kathryn after she returns. She takes his dad's side, openly treating him like a child by giving him the option to leave, and spending a whole night (even if nothing happened, which is my preferred route) with his dad. No sane/self-respecting man would be OK with that.

Maybe have Elise sense their bond weakening and try to seduce and manipulate Luke?

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Couples in real life overcome far worse things than this and their bond becomes stronger, so it would not be strange for Luke and Kathryn to work things out and make things better for themselves. It is a VN story after all. Anything is possible, friend. ;-)

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[BigJoe644]

JBNYC1: I'll see your point in terms of willing couples, but she's walking Bowlegged coming home.

 

[MagicMan753]

Well, dev told me maybe he will adjust or change this Kathryn issue down the line. Which let's be real, means, NO.
If he was ever going to change it, NOW would be the time. Cause in the future he would have to do more reworks, add more scenes, rewrites, the further this story goes, makes this unlikely to change this, NOW is the only time.

I am also reminded of one of the most impactful scenes, a few chapters ago, when Kathryn cried, when she was vulnerable, worried that we were cheating, worried that we didn't love her essentially. Well, with this recent update, that whole scene just means NOTHING anymore.

Kathryn basically confirms she doesn't value us, she doesn't choose us, she basically says, she doesn't Love us, by not following us and by basically choosing Pat. That whole crying scene means nothing now, cause why should we care about her when she clearly doesn't value us.

Not changing this scene, is and will be one of the biggest mistakes ever. The dev made this contrived plot and character assassination of one a great and beloved character, to just force drama even though its out of her nature. He has ruined all past moments, by not having an option here.

It feels like Bobbyboy48 doesn't care about about these characters and doesn't care about his fans unless they are paying him enough, then he will fold instantly to what they want.

With the dev confirming nothing will change, no reworks, or anything, nothing matters, and will probably just go more downhill from where we are.
It's just a letdown and shame, the dev does not care anymore and has sacrificed a great Visual novel.

 

[Claudio83]

I have not cheated with Franklin, Albert and Pat (sharing is not cheating, but it's based on trust).
I was hoping in the site fan's gangbang at the start of the update, but for now Luke don't want share Kath anymore... i'm hoping for a rethinking in the future! And obviously it there will be...

 

[bulbor]

Well, dev told me maybe he will adjust or change this Kathryn issue down the line. Which let's be real, means, NO. If he was ever going to change it, NOW would be the time. Cause in the future he would have to do more reworks, add more scenes, rewrites, the further this story goes, makes this unlikely to change this, NOW is the only time.

I am also reminded of one of the most impactful scenes, a few chapters ago, when Kathryn cried, when she was vulnerable, worried that we were cheating, worried that we didn't love her essentially. Well, with this recent update, that whole scene just means NOTHING anymore.

Kathryn basically confirms she doesn't value us, she doesn't choose us, she basically says, she doesn't Love us, by not following us and by basically choosing Pat. That whole crying scene means nothing now, cause why should we care about her when she clearly doesn't value us.

Not changing this scene, is and will be one of the biggest mistakes ever. The dev made this contrived plot and character assassination of one a great and beloved character, to just force drama even though its out of her nature. He has ruined all past moments, by not having an option here.

It feels like Bobbyboy48 doesn't care about about these characters and doesn't care about his fans unless they are paying him enough, then he will fold instantly to what they want.

With the dev confirming nothing will change, no reworks, or anything, nothing matters, and will probably just go more downhill from where we are.
It's just a letdown and shame, the dev does not care anymore and has sacrificed a great Visual novel.

Indeed, this latest update is not what I signed up for. Kat is definitely breaking character. Even on the "faithful Luke" path she is given the choice to cheat. Options are good, but it' feels out of character. There is a difference between, sex happy girlfriend and mindless girlfriend completely controlled by her libido. But hey I'm not the dev, he has to follow his vision, (but is it his vision he is following though?).

 

[Joshy92]

Indeed, this latest update is not what I signed up for. Kat is definitely breaking character. Even on the "faithful Luke" path she is given the choice to cheat. Options are good, but it' feels out of character. There is a difference between, sex happy girlfriend and mindless girlfriend completely controlled by her libido. But hey I'm not the dev, he has to follow his vision, (but is it his vision he is following though?).

Just adding a scene to go home with Luke would improve things dramatically imo. This chapter took a big shit all over Kathryn's character.

 

[xert13]

So, is the wife finally screwing others without permission now?

 

[Joshy92]

So, is the wife finally screwing others without permission now?

She's not his wife but yeah she's cheating if you choose. In fact it's all we got this update.

 

[micmac14]

I found it strange that he had her suck 17 dicks and swallow every load but then turns around and says no to gangbang. pretty sure at this point you would be ok with a gangbang. Anyway, easy to pick the game apart but all in all... still one of the better games when you take everything into account. can't please everyone all the time.