VN Ren'Py The East Block [v0.8.3] [Bobbyboy Productions]

[TonyMurray]

I played the latest version of the game and noticed some really interesting AI-generated video animations. They add a lot of "life" and realism to the movements, and sometimes even look better than a regular render. I spent the whole night testing different AIs but still couldn’t figure out a clear method for how this is done.
Maybe someone can suggest how to “bring images to life” this well or how to enhance basic generation with AI?

By the way, the game is great - thumbs up.

I know you said "sometimes", but I can't look at the AI and think it looks as good as, let alone better than, a regular render. This is perhaps an extreme one just because it's panned out and shows more background, but it's a good example of how bad the overall quality of the animation is, once you take your eyes off the movement. If you can tear your eyes away from Kathryn dancing, all the noise in the background is just awful:

I think this is the closest static render I can get to the same scene. Look how clean it is by comparison. It's a marked difference in quality, and one of the reasons why the AI animations in this release marked a step down, IMO:

In this one, I've marked in pink all the parts of the image that show good image quality. You can't really see it, but I cut Kathryn's thumb and part of her forearm out of that because they blur into the background. The rest of it represents image quality that the dev would never have dreamed to include in an update prior to this...

 

[Dessolos]

I know you said "sometimes", but I can't look at the AI and think it looks as good as, let alone better than, a regular render. This is perhaps an extreme one just because it's panned out and shows more background, but it's a good example of how bad the overall quality of the animation is, once you take your eyes off the movement. If you can tear your eyes away from Kathryn dancing, all the noise in the background is just awful:
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I think this is the closest static render I can get to the same scene. Look how clean it is by comparison. It's a marked difference in quality, and one of the reasons why the AI animations in this release marked a step down, IMO:
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In this one, I've marked in pink all the parts of the image that show good image quality. You can't really see it, but I cut Kathryn's thumb and part of her forearm out of that because they blur into the background. The rest of it represents image quality that the dev would never have dreamed to include in an update prior to this...
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ngl this was interesting for me to read because I can't tell a difference other than the part you highlighted in pink about the thumb and maybe Kathryn's face looks better in the 2nd 1. Tho might be cause it's night time where I am right now , so less light makes it less noticeable haha. But then again I feel like I never notice alot of issues I see people bring up when it comes to renders. I probably just don't got an eye to notice such things

 

[King Cule]

yeah I liked the masturbation part but idk why when the sex part with Pat happened the hotness factor of the scene just went down for me. Like don't get me wrong any sex with Kathryn is hot but I just found the Franklin and Flashback NTR scenes hotter personally even if no sex happened beyond just the tip lol.

Tho probably has to do with the fact i don't really like NTR all that much im more of a sharing fan. So the actual cheating part of NTR scenes does nothing for me , while I know that's what alot of NTR fans do like. For me NTR scenes are just for the sake of seeing content if I like the game or LI enough. So if the porn part is hot i'll like it which is probably explains why the Pat scene is my least favorite NTR scene unless you count the Albert Handy.

Because Franklin’s scene with Kath was done secretly behind Luke’s back, and that’s what many people like more than a full explicit sex scene.
most people like teasing scene more than actual sex.

 

[TonyMurray]

ngl this was interesting for me to read because I can't tell a difference other than the part you highlighted in pink about the thumb and maybe Kathryn's face looks better in the 2nd 1. Tho might be cause it's night time where I am right now , so less light makes it less noticeable haha. But then again I feel like I never notice alot of issues I see people bring up when it comes to renders. I probably just don't got an eye to notice such things

Good places to notice it are Franklin's head (in the AI animation it has "sparkles" on it) and the window/feature behind Nate and Franklin (in the AI animation it has lots of noise—little grainy dots or speckles—visible). There was one animation with Kathryn dancing where you could see her from behind, and Nate and Franklin on the sofa in front of her facing you. Their trousers in particular were sparkling like glitterballs with all the noise:


I've increased the brightness on this one to better show the dots at this magnification:

In the actual animation, those speckles are not static, they move around—hence me likening them to glitter balls—so it's quite distracting once you notice it.

 

[Listander]

Teasing is the preparation for Sex. If there is no Sex, what's the point of the never-ending Teasing Scenes in this Porn Game?

 

[NewGuy2022]

Teasing is the preparation for Sex. If there is no sex, what's the point of the never-ending Teasing Scenes in this Porn Game?

Because the most erogenous zone in the body is the human mind and teasing stimulates it with the promise of more things to follow.

 

[King Cule]

Teasing is the preparation for Sex. If there is no Sex, what's the point of the never-ending Teasing Scenes in this Porn Game?

Everyone has their own fetish.

 

[Listander]

Because the most erogenous zone in the body is the human mind and teasing stimulates it with the promise of more things to follow.

Thank you for proving my point. There are no things that follow !!!

 

[Dessolos]

Good places to notice it are Franklin's head (in the AI animation it has "sparkles" on it) and the window/feature behind Nate and Franklin (in the AI animation it has lots of noise—little grainy dots or speckles—visible). There was one animation with Kathryn dancing where you could see her from behind, and Nate and Franklin on the sofa in front of her facing you. Their trousers in particular were sparkling like glitterballs with all the noise:
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I've increased the brightness on this one to better show the dots at this magnification:
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In the actual animation, those speckles are not static, they move around—hence me likening them to glitter balls—so it's quite distracting once you notice it.

i'll have to look at this tomorrow when it's day time but I can barley see any of the dots you pointed out even with the arrows only can barley see the ones on the pants but that could be just my monitor as well as the pants just looks like a deep black for me. But honestly this is something I have to have someone like yourself to point out to me otherwise 90% of the time I wouldn't notice. I think the only thing I did notice was when Kathryn was taking a shower.

Because Franklin’s scene with Kath was done secretly behind Luke’s back, and that’s what many people like more than a full explicit sex scene.
most people like teasing scene more than actual sex.

that is true part of why I love this game I just love all the teasing and how well done that is while I do want sex scenes and all that , without a little teasing or something it's just boring porn to me in NTS / NTR games. Kathryn is one of the best for that to me.

Teasing is the preparation for Sex. If there is no Sex, what's the point of the never-ending Teasing Scenes in this Porn Game?

I mean yeah we do expect to see something eventually but there are certain scenes I don't need or care for sex scenes just cause there was some teasing beforehand. It more or less depends on the context of the scene for me. A good example the Blowjob scene in the photo studio im glad there was no sex there because of all the teasing it made the blowjob the best part of it to the point where the blowjob it's self was hot in a teasing manner but if it went past the BJ it would of ruined how hot the blowjob was for me.

 

[Listander]

I mean yeah we do expect to see something eventually but there are certain scenes I don't need or care for sex scenes just cause there was some teasing beforehand. It more or less depends on the context of the scene for me. A good example the Blowjob scene in the photo studio im glad there was no sex there because of all the teasing it made the blowjob the best part of it to the point where the blowjob it's self was hot in a teasing manner but if it went past the BJ it would of ruined how hot the blowjob was for me.

Yes, but that was her very first blowjob!
Since the Outhouse, there is no more holding back.

 

[Yelow Submarine]

I hope that in the next chapter we'll have the option of telling Luke that she have sex with his father at the motel, or lying.

 

[Joshy92]

I'd like an option for Luke to strangle Pat to death. We already saw a murder so it wouldn't be out of place.

 

[King Cule]

I wonder whether Kath will lie to Luke and deny that she cheated on him with his father, or if she will confess to him? What would Luke’s reaction be? Will he get angry, or will he accept it and then completely cut ties with his father? Especially if Kath became pregnant by Pat that night.

 

[Dessolos]

I'd like an option for Luke to strangle Pat to death. We already saw a murder so it wouldn't be out of place.

Not sure I can get behind this unless there is a way to do it without Luke catching a Murder charge and Kathryn finding out. I can't do that do that to Kathryn making her sad and worry about us cause we are in jail not to mention what she would think of Luke.

 

[Yelow Submarine]

Any hope for anal sex in the future, or will Kathryn always be showing off that tight little ass for nothing?

 

[Justaphase]

I'd like an option for Luke to strangle Pat to death. We already saw a murder so it wouldn't be out of place.

There should have been an option to tell Pat to fuck off in the first place. "Hey son, how about I take your girlfriend on a date?" "How about you fuck off!"

 

[Dessolos]

There should have been an option to tell Pat to fuck off in the first place. "Hey son, how about I take your girlfriend on a date?" "How about you fuck off!"

even if he was a good father it kind of comes across weird too unless there was an actual good reason behind it ( something like Kathryn's birthday and Luke couldn't do anything for some reason)

 

[Joshy92]

There should have been an option to tell Pat to fuck off in the first place. "Hey son, how about I take your girlfriend on a date?" "How about you fuck off!"

I wish I could pay Santini to deal with him. Seriously, is Luke even a man if he does nothing to get back at his father after finding out? A real man would wait until late at night and smash his head in with a crowbar or something.

Mess with a man's woman and you deserve to get got.

 

[Justaphase]

I wish I could pay Santini to deal with him. Seriously, is Luke even a man if he does nothing to get back at his father after finding out? A real man would wait until late at night and smash his head in with a crowbar or something.

Mess with a man's woman and you deserve to get got.

On my main save she won't do anything with Pat anyway. I will trust Kat to go alone (so no argument) and she won't cheat. She will call Luke at the motel before her phone dies telling him she loves him and I will assume that he get's it.
I might have her be naughty with Franklin though. I hope that she tells Luke about it next update and they can have fun together.

 

[Dessolos]

I wish I could pay Santini to deal with him.

Now this I could get behind and would love it especially if there is a forgiveness path where Luke finds out and on that path you have the option to get Pat killed somehow or an alternative one where he just willingly forgives her and accepts. Of course kill Path be my pick