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Cheating is always there in porn games just to be hot. It's not to stir the relationship, be dramatic. Then it wouldn't be a kink. If people would want to see fucked up documentaries of cheating and murder then they would watch True Crime.
Tell that to the NTR lovers who specifically ask for it to be as cruel and awful to the MMC as possible. I couldn't disagree more with your statement to be honest. It seems like stirring the relationship, feelings of angst, drama are basically the entire point. Otherwise, you could simply have a number of disconnected scenes of a woman having sex with a number of different men.

For me, swinging is enticing because while you have a loving relationship, there is that aspect of "would I enjoy seeing my wife taken/take by someone else?" without the angst and nastiness (imo) of cheating and going behind your partner's back.
 
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I just played through the update. This update was focused on the 'cheating' route and didn't have much 'sharing' content, so I’d like to make a point about the cheating aspect
To be honest, the cheating route hasn't been implemented in an interesting way for me personally, because the entire motivation is lust. In other words, Luke and Kathryn aren't doing this out of sacrifice for one another, nor to gain some position, nor were they deceived by someone's sinister plot, nor were they blackmailed—nothing. The sole reason for both of them to betray is lust. A prime example is the relationship between Kathryn and the MC's father, which holds no motivation whatsoever other than lust!
This causes the characters to become shallow; they become one-dimensional and detestable because you can't justify their betrayal even a little bit
Sure, someone could reply to me right now saying it was really hot, but if hotness was all that mattered to me, I wouldn't be reading a story—I’d just go to Pornhub

That's why in this game, I'm no longer going to check out the cheating route out of curiosity; I'll just wait for the sharing route
Honestly I never saw cheating as hot for the cheating side of it unlike most people that like NTR. For me the hotness from NTR has only every came because I grown to like the LI alot and want to see more scene of here for the porn side of it , so Kathryn in this case. Also I consider NTR paths / scenes just for content saves never a main path or save for me my main save is always sharing.

Which is why the cheating with Pat brings mix signals to me on one end I like it cause it means more hot scenes with Kathryn on the other hand it wasn't done all that well to me. Even for cheating out of lust I felt like it came out of nowhere and felt rather forced, Franklin cheating scene despite it being only the tip made alot more sense for cheating out of lust to me.
 

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I rarely comment, if ever, but wow! Last chapter was hot as hell, that motel scene with MC's father was awesome! Please I need more of that!

I hope that we get the choice to keep sharing Kathryn with Pat in the future, I think it would only make sense. Sure, things are going to feel awkward and wrong for a while. Kathryn and Pat are going to feel guilty about what happened at the motel, but Luke's going to come around and be okay with it. I mean, after all, we did have the choice for Kat to go alone. And I certainly assumed cheating was on the table when I picked that option, so let's just say that I'm completely satisfied with the outcome, and now I need more!

Whatever happens this is already one of the best NTR games I've ever played. Do we know when the new update is coming?
 

Dessolos

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I hope that we get the choice to keep sharing Kathryn with Pat in the future, I think it would only make sense. Sure, things are going to feel awkward and wrong for a while. Kathryn and Pat are going to feel guilty about what happened at the motel, but Luke's going to come around and be okay with it.
sharing Pat when did this happen? there was no sharing Pat just cheating. Logically Luke should never be okay with it.
 
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sharing Pat when did this happen? there was no sharing Pat just cheating. Logically Luke should never be okay with it.
The only way I could see that work is for the Pat and Kath humiliating Luke angle. I agree that I can't see the thrill in sharing your LI with your worst enemy on earth. If there's humiliation involved, I don't understand how she would remain Luke's LI any longer. That's not my thing at all but I guess for some players...
 

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The only way I could see that work is for the Pat and Kath humiliating Luke angle. I agree that I can't see the thrill in sharing your LI with your worst enemy on earth. If there's humiliation involved, I don't understand how she would remain Luke's LI any longer. That's not my thing at all but I guess for some players...
I mean, are we playing the same game here? There seems to be a drug going around in the city that turns everyone into mindless lustful zombies, we're yet to see how's that going to come into play, but if we take that into account I can totally see it happening. Sure, things can stay as they are as strictly cheating, Luke is also cheating with Kat's mom, at least in my playthrough, which is why I think it's only fair that Kat also gets to do it with her FIL. But both of them have been doing all kinds of stuff since moving to the city, testing the limits while getting off doing it, I think nothing it's too crazy for this game tbh, and that's what appeals to me I guess.
 

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I mean, are we playing the same game here? There seems to be a drug going around in the city that turns everyone into mindless lustful zombies, we're yet to see how's that going to come into play, but if we take that into account I can totally see it happening. Sure, things can stay as they are as strictly cheating, Luke is also cheating with Kat's mom, at least in my playthrough, which is why I think it's only fair that Kat also gets to do it with her FIL. But both of them have been doing all kinds of stuff since moving to the city, testing the limits while getting off doing it, I think nothing it's too crazy for this game tbh, and that's what appeals to me I guess.
If only for me, hate trumps every other emotion. Luke and Pat hate each other. I don't see how anyone would agree to letting their LI shag their enemy. I could see things happen there as cheating but for Luke to think it's okay for his LI to hook up with his enemy? I guess we see things differently; that's fine.
 
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If only for me, hate trumps every other emotion. Luke and Pat hate each other. I don't see how anyone would agree to letting their LI shag their enemy. I could see things happen there as cheating but for Luke to think it's okay for his LI to hook up with his enemy? I guess we see things differently; that's fine.
Hate is a strong word, I don't think they hate each other, Pat certainly doesn't hate his son, and I don't think Luke hates his father. Kat doesn't think so either. But you're right, maybe sharing is also a strong word in this situation. I would be more than okay with this cheating path for Kat if anything really. I think it's hot, at least now that I just played the last chapter, maybe I'll change my mind later, but I don't think so lol
 

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Hey guys, it’s time for another dev log!

Chapter 8 is now completely finished for now. I do plan to revisit it later to adjust a few things and spruce some areas up, but work on Chapter 9 is already well underway and progress is going smoothly.

Looking back at Chapter 8, I learned a lot, both from the development process itself and from player feedback. Once again, it really highlighted just how divisive NTR and cheating themes can be. Overall, I’m fairly confident that most people enjoyed it, at least based on the messages and comments I’ve received. For those of you who didn’t, I completely understand. You can please some people some of the time, but you can’t please everyone all of the time. Just know that there’s a lot more to come, and future updates will continue to offer content for people on both sides of the fence.

I also picked up a lot of new skills this chapter, especially with animated backgrounds and using AI to enhance animations. Your feedback was incredibly helpful in letting me know what worked and what didn’t. Going forward, I plan to use AI more sparingly and only when it genuinely enhances the final result. Some of the animations in Chapter 8 were hit or miss, and I plan to revisit the ones that I'm not entirely happy with later on to bring them up to the standard I’m aiming for.

Like it or not, AI is part of the future. As it continues to improve, it’ll inevitably become more common, and learning the tools and workflow now is an important skill I don’t want to fall behind on. That said, the bread and butter of this project will always be the story and dialogue, and that will remain my primary focus.

Chapter 9 Overview
For Chapter 9, the scenes are all set up and ready for rendering, and the story has been roughed out and paced in a way that feels good. This chapter leans more heavily into character-driven moments, with just enough story progression to keep things moving at a satisfying pace. I really wanted to focus on the elements that make this game what it is, and I think you’re all going to like what’s coming.

Current Progress
Images: 91 / ?
Animations: 4 / ?
Coding: 0 / 5 scenes
Extras: Ongoing work on menu and GUI enhancements, character profile screen, and scene replay system

That’s about all the game news for now. On a personal note, I had an amazing holiday with my family, laying on a sunny beach with my feet in the warm sand and listening to the ocean waves was amazing. I hadn’t been to a tropical resort in about eight years, so it was incredibly refreshing to unplug for a bit and give my eyes (and brain) a break from the screen.

As always, thank you to everyone who continues to support this project. I genuinely can’t express how much it helps and motivates me to keep pushing forward. I’m really excited about the future of the game, and having some much-needed help makes me hopeful that both the quality and the speed of future updates will continue to improve.

See you in the next one!
Bobby
 

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Hey guys, it’s time for another dev log!

Chapter 8 is now completely finished for now. I do plan to revisit it later to adjust a few things and spruce some areas up, but work on Chapter 9 is already well underway and progress is going smoothly.

Looking back at Chapter 8, I learned a lot, both from the development process itself and from player feedback. Once again, it really highlighted just how divisive NTR and cheating themes can be. Overall, I’m fairly confident that most people enjoyed it, at least based on the messages and comments I’ve received. For those of you who didn’t, I completely understand. You can please some people some of the time, but you can’t please everyone all of the time. Just know that there’s a lot more to come, and future updates will continue to offer content for people on both sides of the fence.

I also picked up a lot of new skills this chapter, especially with animated backgrounds and using AI to enhance animations. Your feedback was incredibly helpful in letting me know what worked and what didn’t. Going forward, I plan to use AI more sparingly and only when it genuinely enhances the final result. Some of the animations in Chapter 8 were hit or miss, and I plan to revisit the ones that I'm not entirely happy with later on to bring them up to the standard I’m aiming for.

Like it or not, AI is part of the future. As it continues to improve, it’ll inevitably become more common, and learning the tools and workflow now is an important skill I don’t want to fall behind on. That said, the bread and butter of this project will always be the story and dialogue, and that will remain my primary focus.

Chapter 9 Overview
For Chapter 9, the scenes are all set up and ready for rendering, and the story has been roughed out and paced in a way that feels good. This chapter leans more heavily into character-driven moments, with just enough story progression to keep things moving at a satisfying pace. I really wanted to focus on the elements that make this game what it is, and I think you’re all going to like what’s coming.

Current Progress
Images: 91 / ?
Animations: 4 / ?
Coding: 0 / 5 scenes
Extras: Ongoing work on menu and GUI enhancements, character profile screen, and scene replay system

That’s about all the game news for now. On a personal note, I had an amazing holiday with my family, laying on a sunny beach with my feet in the warm sand and listening to the ocean waves was amazing. I hadn’t been to a tropical resort in about eight years, so it was incredibly refreshing to unplug for a bit and give my eyes (and brain) a break from the screen.

As always, thank you to everyone who continues to support this project. I genuinely can’t express how much it helps and motivates me to keep pushing forward. I’m really excited about the future of the game, and having some much-needed help makes me hopeful that both the quality and the speed of future updates will continue to improve.

See you in the next one!
Bobby
I didn't know you're a sub too Tony. We are in so many of the same threads lol.
 

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I didn't know you're a sub too Tony. We are in so many of the same threads lol.
Only a free member. And we like several of the same games, even if we have varied tastes within them!

From this devlog, I'm glad that my two main issues with the game going forward are discussed - using the AI animations more sparingly and potentially going back and redoing some of the existing ones from Ep8. I won't see those ones again, but hopefully the ones I do see coming up will be of a better quality at least.
 

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Only a free member. And we like several of the same games, even if we have varied tastes within them!

From this devlog, I'm glad that my two main issues with the game going forward are discussed - using the AI animations more sparingly and potentially going back and redoing some of the existing ones from Ep8. I won't see those ones again, but hopefully the ones I do see coming up will be of a better quality at least.
Wait, the dev logs are visible to free members? I never knew that tbh. And I always felt like a boss sharing them, lol.
 

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Wait, the dev logs are visible to free members? I never knew that tbh. And I always felt like a boss sharing them, lol.
There's actually quite a few devs who share the updates openly. This, Bimbo Dream, Life Worth Living and Elmwood come to mind...
 
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Yes, an AI is the future. Why should I pay to human to make games when I can pay to an AI to make one for me? I'm telling you guys, expect robot/android Devs in the future!
 
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Wait, the dev logs are visible to free members? I never knew that tbh. And I always felt like a boss sharing them, lol.
Yeah, I only share ones that are free to view - I figure if the dev's released it to free members/public, then I'm just passing the word, whereas if it's for paid members only, I keep to that.
 
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